Article about WW and Atkins being among the most effective diets!

skysiebaby

This was posted this morning, found it quite interesting as I personally would have thought Atkins especially would be very hard to stick to.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3027505/Diets-like-Weight-Watchers-Atkins-effective-long-term.html

Pamajean64

I would have thought the same thing as well. I just started MFP. I have been on WW since 9-1-2014. I have lost 60 pounds but feel I am stuck. 75 more to go and want to see where this plan leads me.

isulo_kura

I don't think the research says what the Daily Mail thinks it does http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2214178

dramaqueen45

If you read the whole article it actually says that weight watchers and Jenny Craig are the two that seems to be the most effective long term. I noticed that it did not look at MFP.

isulo_kura

The editorial is quite a good sum up http://annals.org/data/Journals/AIM/933698/0000605-201504070-00012.pdf.gif?v=635635162031430000 It actually says that weightloss via atkins was Neglible. So as normal the DM not actually reading the research properly. Also the study was pretty limited in it's scope with all programs used for less than 12 months

pinkteapot3

Weight Watchers is nigh on identical to MFP, but you have to pay for it. So if WW works then so does MFP!

I lost 3 stone with WW, then switched to MFP when I realised it was the same thing for free.

WW has a database where they've assigned 'point' values to all foods. They do use a formula that doesn't just take calories into account, but there's still a strong correlation. In fact people say that if you eat something not in their database then you can roughly count it based on 40 cals = 1 WW point (this was the ratio back when I used to do it - might be a different amount now as they keep redesigning the system).

Just like MFP, you can eat anything you like, so long as you log it, and it's within your daily points allowance.

When I switched, I was able to eat exactly the same food diary for a day - the same foods fitted into a WW day's points and an MFP day's calories. That told me that WW was restricting me to about the same number of cals.

Also as with MFP, you can earn extra WW points by exercising. And when you've lost weight you switch onto maintenance points.

ruggedshutter

dramaqueen45 wrote: »

If you read the whole article it actually says that weight watchers and Jenny Craig are the two that seems to be the most effective long term. I noticed that it did not look at MFP.

That's because MFP isn't a diet, or maybe MFP didn't pay them to conduct the research

skysiebaby

isulo_kura wrote: »

The editorial is quite a good sum up http://annals.org/data/Journals/AIM/933698/0000605-201504070-00012.pdf.gif?v=635635162031430000 It actually says that weightloss via atkins was Neglible. So as normal the DM not actually reading the research properly. Also the study was pretty limited in it's scope with all programs used for less than 12 months

That doesn't surprise me tbh, DM is pretty useless most of the time.

kathygolean

herrspoons wrote: »

Most 'diets' fail. Counting calories, changing one's lifestyle, and eating reasonably works.

Simples.

Yup...this pretty much sums it all up. It isn't really rocket science. Must use up the calories you take in to maintain, need to eat/exercise at a deficit to lose. Sounds so simple, because it really is! The rub is the will power factor lol!

pinkteapot3

I actually disagree re "diets", but it depends entirely on what you mean by "diet".

I just take it to mean "a method of losing weight", which MFP is. The key point is that any diet is a lifelong change. People think they can diet (ie eat at a deficit) and then go back to eating the same way they did before, which they can't.

All weight-loss programs work by getting you to eat at a calorie deficit. They dress it up as being different to varying extents, but it's what they all boil down to. MFP just comes out and says what it's doing.

Once you're done dieting (losing weight - getting to goal) then you have to maintain. That's the bit where people fall down.

HeySwoleSister

skysiebaby wrote: »

isulo_kura wrote: »

The editorial is quite a good sum up http://annals.org/data/Journals/AIM/933698/0000605-201504070-00012.pdf.gif?v=635635162031430000 It actually says that weightloss via atkins was Neglible. So as normal the DM not actually reading the research properly. Also the study was pretty limited in it's scope with all programs used for less than 12 months

That doesn't surprise me tbh, DM is pretty useless most of the time.

ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THAT IMMIGRATION ISN'T WHAT'S MAKING ME FAT?

skysiebaby

EWJLang wrote: »

skysiebaby wrote: »

isulo_kura wrote: »

The editorial is quite a good sum up http://annals.org/data/Journals/AIM/933698/0000605-201504070-00012.pdf.gif?v=635635162031430000 It actually says that weightloss via atkins was Neglible. So as normal the DM not actually reading the research properly. Also the study was pretty limited in it's scope with all programs used for less than 12 months

That doesn't surprise me tbh, DM is pretty useless most of the time.

ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THAT IMMIGRATION ISN'T WHAT'S MAKING ME FAT?

Hahaha