All fruit or vegtable juice diet?

rae06186

I've heard of an liquid diet and I would like to try it. I was thinking about drinking only v8 juices for a few weeks. Does anyone know how safe this is?

jgnatca

MFP offers a way to lose weight by counting calories from a wide variety of foods. This is a safe, reliable, and healthy way to lose weight.

It is not safe to choose one food and try and diet off it. Your body needs variety. Like, where's your protein, fats, and carbs?

http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/

CatHunterFit

Not safe to do a juice diet for that long. Neither is is sustainable. Any weight you lose will go straight back on when you start to eat food again.

To lose weight, AND keep it off, do it slowly through counting your cals and getting some exercise in.

Myhaloslipped

It is not safe at all. Terrible idea.

beemerphile1

Ridiculous thing to do.

yarwell

rae06186 wrote: »

I've heard of an liquid diet and I would like to try it. I was thinking about drinking only v8 juices for a few weeks. Does anyone know how safe this is?

Probably not. 5 days or one week would be a better place to start. See how that works, check with your doctor or healthcare provider first.

Ready2Rock206

No. Terrible idea. What about protein, fats, other nutrients you actually need? Plus a couple glasses of v8 isn't going to get you anywhere near the calories you need to just function in your daily life. You're going to be a lethargic, hangry, malnourished mess. Not a good way to go through life.

salembambi

v8 isnt even that great for you sounds like a silly idea

Ninkyou

Probably not the best of ideas.

I recommend just using MFP and following your calorie goal. It's free and you can eat all of your normal foods (in moderation).

teagirlmedium

I did not know there was a V8 diet until you mentioned it. I do not have any input on this. I would just like to ask what made you choose that diet, and exactly how many weeks are you planning on doing this diet?

savvyfantastic

Unless you have certain health conditions, a juice diet is unnecessary and unlikely to provide you with sufficient fiber, fat and protein, while being likely to be disproportionately high in excess carbohydrates (sugars).

it's easy to get caught up in the gimmickness of diets like this but from a nutritional (as well as enjoyment) position they don't really stand up.

ninerbuff

rae06186 wrote: »

I've heard of an liquid diet and I would like to try it. I was thinking about drinking only v8 juices for a few weeks. Does anyone know how safe this is?

If you're doing it for weight loss, don't. Liquid diets have one of the highest rate of weight regain versus any other diet.

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sheezup2sumtin

Watch Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead on HULU for free. Itʻs a documentary on a man who went on a juice fast. Then do your own research on it before you get into to it. Hope this helps

Ready2Rock206

sheezup2sumtin wrote: »

Watch Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead on HULU for free. Itʻs a documentary on a man who went on a juice fast. Then do your own research on it before you get into to it. Hope this helps

Then watch the follow up movie where they all gain a bunch of weight again and then have to juice again and then gain weight again and then juice again. I don't know the name of it but its with the same guy and its on Netflix.

sheezup2sumtin

Then watch the follow up movie where they all gain a bunch of weight again and then have to juice again and then gain weight again and then juice again. I don't know the name of it but its with the same guy and its on Netflix.

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Itʻs the sequel to the movie. Not all gained it back. No oneʻs perfect. Those that do gain it back do so because of emotional issues that they need to get help for. After the reboot phase, itʻs "suppose" to reset your system to consuming more vegetables, fruits, and nuts into your diet. You do not have to go extreme as the 2 main guys did. Having "juice" along with regular meals is a healthy way to start if you are considering doing a full on juice fast.

auntstephie321

Ready2Rock206 wrote: »

sheezup2sumtin wrote: »

Watch Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead on HULU for free. Itʻs a documentary on a man who went on a juice fast. Then do your own research on it before you get into to it. Hope this helps

Then watch the follow up movie where they all gain a bunch of weight again and then have to juice again and then gain weight again and then juice again. I don't know the name of it but its with the same guy and its on Netflix.

This was done by an individual with a sever auto immune condition and was monitored by a doctor. They did not all gain it back, the main person in the documentary has had great success with it.

If you are considering it for weight loss it may not be the best path to go. Also you would need a variety of juices to meet nutrient requirements, store bought v8 would not be the best choice.

A juice fast is extremely difficult as well and most when starting out will try it for 1 to 3 days.

rae06186

Thanks for the advice everyone! I'm going to try a different way to diet now. Didn't know it was such a bad idea!!

JoRocka

rae06186 wrote: »

Thanks for the advice everyone! I'm going to try a different way to diet now. Didn't know it was such a bad idea!!

perhaps- a calorie deficit which includes moderation.

MKEgal

Sorry for the necropost, but in case someone does a search looking for info, I want them to find
solid scientific reasons to dissuade them from 'juicing'.

Drinking a lot of juice is not a healthy way to lose weight, and if you go over your necessary calories you _won't_
lose weight. Eating calories tells your body it's full. Drinking calories does not.

Here's a good place to start searching for reliable peer-reviewed research about health topics:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19110020
The effect of fruit in different forms on energy intake and satiety at a meal
"whole apple increased satiety more than applesauce or apple juice... results suggest that solid fruit affects satiety
more than pureed fruit or juice, and that eating fruit at the start of a meal can reduce energy intake."
The abstract has a link to the full article, for free.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6259919
The role of dietary fiber in satiety, glucose, and insulin: studies with fruit and fruit juice
"Satiety, assessed by two subjective scoring systems, was greater after whole fruit than after juice and the return of
appetite was delayed. With oranges, as previously reported with apples, there was a significantly smaller insulin
response to fruit than to juice and less postabsorptive fall in plasma glucose."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17579632
Effects of food form on appetite and energy intake in lean and obese young adults
"total daily energy intake was significantly higher ... on days the beverage forms of the high-carbohydrate, -fat and
-protein foods were ingested... This was due more to a weak effect on satiety"
(IOW, solid foods are more satisfying, even if the liquid form has the same # of calories.)


For advice on how to lose weight in a healthy way, read these, especially sexypants.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819925/the-basics-dont-complicate-it/p1

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/872212/youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/833026/important-posts-to-read/p1

melimomTARDIS

Ready2Rock206 wrote: »

No. Terrible idea. What about protein, fats, other nutrients you actually need? Plus a couple glasses of v8 isn't going to get you anywhere near the calories you need to just function in your daily life. You're going to be a lethargic, hangry, malnourished mess. Not a good way to go through life.

agree.

andyluvv

salembambi wrote: »

v8 isnt even that great for you sounds like a silly idea

Have you checked the ingredients and composition? http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/10449/2

No fats, very low protein AND quite a bit of sodium.
If you want to eat like that, just make a salad and add a lot of salt, followed by a glass of water
...does it sound good for you?

I'd steer clear.

Cup_

It's been about 4 years now, but I admit that I did the whole "fat sick & nearly dead" thing. Made my own juices using everything from kale to beets... a variety of around 20+ different items, mixed and matched. I went for like 16 days drinking as much as I wanted. While I would NOT do that again (other than a 24-hour fast on occasion), I ended up losing 17lbs ...of which 15 oddly never came back. I have NO IDEA what I lost really. Fat, water, and/or muscle? I joined MFP to lose a few more dress sizes, and prefer to accomplish it with old fashioned hard work and lifestyle changes. Already dropped a dress size and a half in less than two months with heavy lifting and a little cardio. And, I feel this is the right choice given the fact that I am at the point of my life where I am looking for a long-term solution to a healthier and more fit me.

shadowconn

If you want to do that, you need to make your own juices. It is really expensive . . about $12-$15 a day. Juice calculator cause you still need to maintain your calories http://www.juicingcollection.com/juicing-calculator/

Orphia

MKEgal wrote: »

Sorry for the necropost, but in case someone does a search looking for info, I want them to find
solid scientific reasons to dissuade them from 'juicing'.

Drinking a lot of juice is not a healthy way to lose weight, and if you go over your necessary calories you _won't_
lose weight. Eating calories tells your body it's full. Drinking calories does not.

Here's a good place to start searching for reliable peer-reviewed research about health topics:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19110020
The effect of fruit in different forms on energy intake and satiety at a meal
"whole apple increased satiety more than applesauce or apple juice... results suggest that solid fruit affects satiety
more than pureed fruit or juice, and that eating fruit at the start of a meal can reduce energy intake."
The abstract has a link to the full article, for free.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6259919
The role of dietary fiber in satiety, glucose, and insulin: studies with fruit and fruit juice
"Satiety, assessed by two subjective scoring systems, was greater after whole fruit than after juice and the return of
appetite was delayed. With oranges, as previously reported with apples, there was a significantly smaller insulin
response to fruit than to juice and less postabsorptive fall in plasma glucose."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17579632
Effects of food form on appetite and energy intake in lean and obese young adults
"total daily energy intake was significantly higher ... on days the beverage forms of the high-carbohydrate, -fat and
-protein foods were ingested... This was due more to a weak effect on satiety"
(IOW, solid foods are more satisfying, even if the liquid form has the same # of calories.)


For advice on how to lose weight in a healthy way, read these, especially sexypants.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819925/the-basics-dont-complicate-it/p1

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/872212/youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/833026/important-posts-to-read/p1

Quoting for the evidences. Good post!

Good to hear the OP changed her mind.

The only think I'd add is that just having an all liquid breakfast for over a year did TERRIBLE things to my digestion till I worked out that was causing it.

TMI warning:

I had diarrhea every single day. Ugh.

shadowconn

Orphia wrote: »

Quoting for the evidences. Good post!

Good to hear the OP changed her mind.

The only think I'd add is that just having an all liquid breakfast for over a year did TERRIBLE things to my digestion till I worked out that was causing it.

TMI warning:

I had diarrhea every single day. Ugh.

I do a liquid breakfast these days and my stomach is fine. I have lactose intolerance and IBS, and blending a bunch of fruit with yogurt seems to work for me. Otherwise I think I wouldn't eat until after noon because that's when my stomach officially wakes up.

paperpudding

I can't see anything wrong with having a liquid breakfast if rest of day is balanced by nutritious normal foods.

That is very different to liveing entirely on juices alone, which is generally the idea of a juice fast.

Orphia

paperpudding wrote: »

I can't see anything wrong with having a liquid breakfast if rest of day is balanced by nutritious normal foods.

I just told you what was wrong with it for me.

paperpudding wrote: »

That is very different to liveing entirely on juices alone, which is generally the idea of a juice fast.

Yes, it 's different, but I imagine it's similar to my circumstances in that it does not provide adequate fibre.

melimomTARDIS

LOL... whats wrong with diarrhea every day Orphia?