The way you look when flexing vs. not flexing.
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drewlamonte wrote: »A company called Alpha Training Protocols posted this a while back. Her body fat is low, so she looks great even when she isn't flexing. As you drop the fat you'll see that you don't have to flex to look like you are fit.
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I would have to eat absolutely 100% perfectly to ever get like this. Not even a single crumb off plan would be allowed.
She probably had to eat 100% perfectly on plan to look like this too... No one gets it easy. We all have to work for it - but we all have to put in different kinds of work to see similar results based on the hand we're dealt.
If by '100% perfectly on plan' you mean within calorie and macro goals, yes. She tracks her calories and macros while flexible dieting. She had honey smacks and fruit loops two weeks ago and a cheeseburger with chili cheese fries four weeks ago.0 -
Wow lots of posts and not enough time to read them all so I apologize if this has been reiterated.
If you haven't already entertained the idea of SWIMMING I would seriously look towards that as a great option to achieve your goals. Of course, you cannot just do easy swimming it will need to be medium to vigorous efforts but the PAYOFF is supreme in a sense.
You'll walk around king chip, sculpted like an Ice Block squared and Teed off!
Do front stroke and back stroke to tone the front and back.
Use a flipper board and kick through the water at a moderate to vigorous effort to tone the legs.
Since I have started swimming I have only been interested in the cardio benefit to strengthen my heart and lungs. In the process, my body has experienced several "adaptations" I pass by a mirror and have to double check that its in fact me I'm staring at in the reflection.
So in conclusion, SWIM
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drewlamonte wrote: »Gotcha. So when people say that your body chooses to keep fat over muscle, in response to taking in few calories, they aren't being specific enough on what "too few calories" really is? In other words, eating even as low as 1200 calories a day isn't low enough to cause your body to think it's deprived, thus prioritizing muscle burn over fat?drewlamonte wrote: »Also, I'm doing a calorie deficit, but also lifting heavy.
I do have muscle on my body. I used to be able to squat 450 and bench 315. I'm no serious body builder though, unless I actually am and I don't know it.
If you aren't lifting and you go on an extreme low calorie, your body will sacrifice both fat and muscle to cover the deficit (the amount of each depends on your genetics). If you're lifting and providing yourself with enough protein, you'll likely retain much of the muscle and just lose fat (again, genetics has some say here, but the stimulus and protein provide incentive to stay stronger/more muscular).
When you go on a deficit, your body has to decide what to keep going and what to let go. The brain is going to win out over everything else. Then, everything else is prioritized based on how long the body can stay alive. Lifting heavy signals your body that you need muscle/strength to do what you're doing, so it will more likely go for the fat (up to a point). There will be a point where you're going too deep (less than 1000 calories), and then your body may stop you from being able to lift (again, to stay alive it needs your liver and kidneys to keep functioning along with the brain). And below that, certain organs and other biological functions may stop happening.
I have a slight disconnect between "lifting heavy" and "used to be able to" since I lift heavy (have been for two years now) and I'm lifting right around where my max lifts were in my mid 20s. Heavy is relative to max lifts after all.0 -
drewlamonte wrote: »A company called Alpha Training Protocols posted this a while back. Her body fat is low, so she looks great even when she isn't flexing. As you drop the fat you'll see that you don't have to flex to look like you are fit.
Image can be found here:
I would have to eat absolutely 100% perfectly to ever get like this. Not even a single crumb off plan would be allowed.
She probably had to eat 100% perfectly on plan to look like this too... No one gets it easy. We all have to work for it - but we all have to put in different kinds of work to see similar results based on the hand we're dealt.
If by '100% perfectly on plan' you mean within calorie and macro goals, yes. She tracks her calories and macros while flexible dieting. She had honey smacks and fruit loops two weeks ago and a cheeseburger with chili cheese fries four weeks ago.
Four weeks ago.
[snort]
Boy, I hope it was a REALLY good cheeseburger.
I don't know if I could go that long between indulgences.
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drewlamonte wrote: »A company called Alpha Training Protocols posted this a while back. Her body fat is low, so she looks great even when she isn't flexing. As you drop the fat you'll see that you don't have to flex to look like you are fit.
Image can be found here:
I would have to eat absolutely 100% perfectly to ever get like this. Not even a single crumb off plan would be allowed.
She probably had to eat 100% perfectly on plan to look like this too... No one gets it easy. We all have to work for it - but we all have to put in different kinds of work to see similar results based on the hand we're dealt.
If by '100% perfectly on plan' you mean within calorie and macro goals, yes. She tracks her calories and macros while flexible dieting. She had honey smacks and fruit loops two weeks ago and a cheeseburger with chili cheese fries four weeks ago.
Four weeks ago.
[snort]
Boy, I hope it was a REALLY good cheeseburger.
I don't know if I could go that long between indulgences.
Those are just the ones I know of, no need to get snarky. I don't monitor her food diary. My point was that people think you have to eat like those cookie cutter bodybuilding diets to look like her, but she doesn't eat like that.0 -
Was just teasing...sorry... But I did think it was kinda funny: "Yeah, sure. She cuts loose....like...once every four weeks....at one meal....."0
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Was just teasing...sorry... But I did think it was kinda funny: "Yeah, sure. She cuts loose....like...once every four weeks....at one meal....."
My examples were every other week and it's not cutting loose, it's flexible dieting. The entire point was simply that she doesn't eat rice, broccoli and chicken for every meal like most people tend to think lean people do.0 -
I don't worry about looking flexed even when not, but it sure would be nice to be able to sit down and not have my gut look like I instantly gained 50 pounds compared to my gut when standing.0
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My profile pic is unflexed. My abs are better shown when i flex ofcourse, but still want to see my lower belly fat gone.0
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I don't worry about looking flexed even when not, but it sure would be nice to be able to sit down and not have my gut look like I instantly gained 50 pounds compared to my gut when standing.
Agreed. I would be a perfect candidate for a before-after comparison on a TV commercial advertising diet pills. I could pose for both the before and after photo within minutes of each other.0 -
AllanMisner wrote: »drewlamonte wrote: »Gotcha. So when people say that your body chooses to keep fat over muscle, in response to taking in few calories, they aren't being specific enough on what "too few calories" really is? In other words, eating even as low as 1200 calories a day isn't low enough to cause your body to think it's deprived, thus prioritizing muscle burn over fat?drewlamonte wrote: »Also, I'm doing a calorie deficit, but also lifting heavy.
I do have muscle on my body. I used to be able to squat 450 and bench 315. I'm no serious body builder though, unless I actually am and I don't know it.
If you aren't lifting and you go on an extreme low calorie, your body will sacrifice both fat and muscle to cover the deficit (the amount of each depends on your genetics). If you're lifting and providing yourself with enough protein, you'll likely retain much of the muscle and just lose fat (again, genetics has some say here, but the stimulus and protein provide incentive to stay stronger/more muscular).
When you go on a deficit, your body has to decide what to keep going and what to let go. The brain is going to win out over everything else. Then, everything else is prioritized based on how long the body can stay alive. Lifting heavy signals your body that you need muscle/strength to do what you're doing, so it will more likely go for the fat (up to a point). There will be a point where you're going too deep (less than 1000 calories), and then your body may stop you from being able to lift (again, to stay alive it needs your liver and kidneys to keep functioning along with the brain). And below that, certain organs and other biological functions may stop happening.
I have a slight disconnect between "lifting heavy" and "used to be able to" since I lift heavy (have been for two years now) and I'm lifting right around where my max lifts were in my mid 20s. Heavy is relative to max lifts after all.
Appreciate the way you explained this. I didn't realize that if you lift while also taking in calories on a deficit, you'll be less likely to "burn muscle" because your body feels it has a need for muscle.
After my freshman year of college, where I gained about 40lbs from drinking alcohol and eating pizza, I decided to go on a diet to lose the weight. But what I did was apparently the wrong way to do it, as I decided not only cut calories but also do daily cardio, and barely lift.
I shrunk down my waist size by a lot, my legs became much "skinnier" than before, and my overall body weight was much lower. I lost all 40 lbs in about 4-6 months. But, I could tell that I had lost a lot of muscle, a lot.
This time around, I'm lifting heavy, and also working under a deficit, in hopes that I notice my body to tighten up and for the "chubby" layer of fat to reduce itself, but this time my #1 goal isn't to lose 40lbs. I just want to lower my body fat percentage. Ofcourse I do hope to drop a couple waist sizes, and for my overall body weight to decrease, but I'll take lowered body fat % over muscle loss.
The question I am thinking about now, is, what is the deal with people who say you need to lift less weight and high reps in order to "cut"? Sounds like doing that could simply be a waste of time, or perhaps an old way of thinking. A few replies on here and another thread have people saying that lifting "heavy" is very important. So maybe the "high reps with less weight" approach is a false myth, or maybe it simply accomplishes a different set of goals, none being to lower body fat %.0
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