From weight loss to bulk! (does weight gain scare you?)

Shouliveshappy
Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
I believe many ladies here (in particular) are coming off a cut or weight loss. I myself lost 30kg in 2014. Now i'm currently 158cm, 47 kg. Im not underweight, but i have low bodyfat (below 15%) which can be seen from my vascularity in my arms (although when im not flexing - kinda dangerously low and somewhat unsightly).

Goal now: Be stronger, less scrawny. But i see myself as flabby still...

But any one else is like me, facing conflicting thoughts on bulk vs seeing some weight gain on the scale? How do you overcome it... Because most people i speak to who are bulking are ectomorphs (skinny all their life).. They cant seem to relate to me (being once obese since i was a kid). Hoping to get some advice and motivation here!
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  • terizius
    terizius Posts: 425 Member
    There are a number of folks coming from your background. They will pipe up soon I'm sure. I'm a big fan of tracking anyway, but I think that its even more important for those with your background to show where those gains are going (and the corresponding weight gain) so that you don't freak out (not that you are a freaky kind of person)...
  • keithcw_the_first
    keithcw_the_first Posts: 382 Member
    edited April 2015
    So I'm not coming from exactly the same place as you -- if I'm trusting the metric conversions you're over 6 feet and about 100 pounds?

    I was fat in high school, and college, and any time I ever went to the gym it was with the goal of losing weight. In fact, I started this year trying to get down to 185 from 205. I noticed the increased vascularity, but it got increasingly difficult to lose the closer I got. I bottomed out at about 190 and realized that five more pounds might make a difference visually, but I was a long way away from that. And I was miserable from being on too strict a caloric restriction for too long. And when I got there, I wasn't going to have tons of muscle to show for it.

    So I've decided to bulk. I've lost weight before; I'm confident I can do it again. I'm not planning on gaining anything insane and I'm hoping that when I cut down again there will be more muscle underneath to show. I kind of realized that the numbers on the scale don't really matter if you aren't satisfied with the visuals.

    You may actually be shocked at how much food your body can soak up when you're training hard, and consistently. Just keep tracking and make adjustments as needed.

    BTW, my all time high was about 240 so I really do feel you on the anxiety of bulking as a former fat kid. I can't speak for everyone but for me, it still hasn't gone away completely.

    Edit: I realized I didn't answer your question. Yes, it scares me but I'm giving it a shot.
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    edited April 2015
    What helped me get through the weight gain during my bulk was focusing on the positives.. how much better my glutes and legs were looking, how much energy I had, setting PRs, etc.

    This is a great read: http://www.jcdfitness.com/2009/10/the-former-fat-boy-syndrome/
  • jdscrubs32
    jdscrubs32 Posts: 515 Member
    I believe many ladies here (in particular) are coming off a cut or weight loss. I myself lost 30kg in 2014. Now i'm currently 158cm, 47 kg. Im not underweight, but i have low bodyfat (below 15%) which can be seen from my vascularity in my arms (although when im not flexing - kinda dangerously low and somewhat unsightly).

    Goal now: Be stronger, less scrawny. But i see myself as flabby still...

    But any one else is like me, facing conflicting thoughts on bulk vs seeing some weight gain on the scale? How do you overcome it... Because most people i speak to who are bulking are ectomorphs (skinny all their life).. They cant seem to relate to me (being once obese since i was a kid). Hoping to get some advice and motivation here!

    Hi was like you as a child and until my mid 20s in that I was very overweight. Lost it all and now looking to put on muscle and weight. My calorie level is set at a very high rate but that is just me. Like you when the PT got me on the this specific level, I was worried about putting all the fat back on. The PT got that out of the back of my head. I'm actually enjoying eating all the food, seeing the increased muscle growth and while the body fat has increased, that doesn't bother me. You cannot really have one without the other. Anyway good luck.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Everyone at some point will struggle phsycological with a bulk- even if it's just the OMG I FEEL SO FAT aspect of it.

    Everyone.

    Bulking is about committing to the long term. Trusting the process- and staying the course.

    Remember what ever you CHOSE to do- you can chose to undo. Much like weight loss- this is not quick- it's a slow steady process- if you lost weight- were you scared while you were losing weight? Were you scared when you first took a calorie deficit?

    nope- slow and steady.

    same here.

    lots of people suffer from former fat guy syndrome- girls to ;)

    its' fine- it's normal to feel that way. But don't change your path because of it.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    edited April 2015
    So I'm not coming from exactly the same place as you -- if I'm trusting the metric conversions you're over 6 feet and about 100 pounds?

    Not quite, what are you using to convert CM to inches? Did you use the lbs to KG ratio of 2.2:1?

    OP would be 5'2" 158 cm/2.54 = 62.2"
  • Emilia777
    Emilia777 Posts: 978 Member
    I’m working towards a bulk as soon as I have a lower bf% (I’m 132 at 5’4” now and around 24% I think).

    It scares me like crazy too, but what really helps is realizing that you won’t be gaining *that* much weight. I try to think about it in small amounts of 5 lbs at a time. If half of that is muscle and half fat, shedding 2.5lbs is do-able fairly easily.

    Besides, I enjoy the process of lifting and feeling stronger a lot. And the extra weight would look awesome on someone who’s putting on some muscle too!
  • keithcw_the_first
    keithcw_the_first Posts: 382 Member
    erickirb wrote: »
    So I'm not coming from exactly the same place as you -- if I'm trusting the metric conversions you're over 6 feet and about 100 pounds?

    Not quite, what are you using to convert CM to inches? Did you use the lbs to KG ratio of 2.2:1?

    OP would be 5'2" 158 cm/2.54 = 62.2"

    Yes I believe I was. And that's why I'm not an architect.
  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    erickirb wrote: »
    So I'm not coming from exactly the same place as you -- if I'm trusting the metric conversions you're over 6 feet and about 100 pounds?

    Not quite, what are you using to convert CM to inches? Did you use the lbs to KG ratio of 2.2:1?

    OP would be 5'2" 158 cm/2.54 = 62.2"

    Yup! I'm 5ft 2" about 110 lbs... :) I'm currently eating about 2000 cal. Kinda reverse dieting plus bulk at the same time.. Trying to get a sense of my threshold level before weight starts to exponentially increase greatly! Did you guys go through that process?
  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    I’m working towards a bulk as soon as I have a lower bf% (I’m 132 at 5’4” now and around 24% I think).

    It scares me like crazy too, but what really helps is realizing that you won’t be gaining *that* much weight. I try to think about it in small amounts of 5 lbs at a time. If half of that is muscle and half fat, shedding 2.5lbs is do-able fairly easily.

    Besides, I enjoy the process of lifting and feeling stronger a lot. And the extra weight would look awesome on someone who’s putting on some muscle too!

    Yes it does! Sounds really scary and kinda paranoid since I have the former fat kid syndrome. Around how much weight are you intending to gain from a bulk? After which any intention to cut?
  • Emilia777
    Emilia777 Posts: 978 Member
    edited April 2015
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    I’m working towards a bulk as soon as I have a lower bf% (I’m 132 at 5’4” now and around 24% I think).

    It scares me like crazy too, but what really helps is realizing that you won’t be gaining *that* much weight. I try to think about it in small amounts of 5 lbs at a time. If half of that is muscle and half fat, shedding 2.5lbs is do-able fairly easily.

    Besides, I enjoy the process of lifting and feeling stronger a lot. And the extra weight would look awesome on someone who’s putting on some muscle too!

    Yes it does! Sounds really scary and kinda paranoid since I have the former fat kid syndrome. Around how much weight are you intending to gain from a bulk? After which any intention to cut?

    I completely get that. I would start with a small bulk for sure and wouldn’t go further than gaining 5 lbs. But truth is, I don’t really know yet. I’ll worry about it more when I get there. I’d absolutely cut after, but carefully: don’t want to lose the muscle! I don’t know much more at this point. Wish I could be more helpful!
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  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Everyone at some point will struggle phsycological with a bulk- even if it's just the OMG I FEEL SO FAT aspect of it.

    Everyone.

    Bulking is about committing to the long term. Trusting the process- and staying the course.

    Remember what ever you CHOSE to do- you can chose to undo. Much like weight loss- this is not quick- it's a slow steady process- if you lost weight- were you scared while you were losing weight? Were you scared when you first took a calorie deficit?

    nope- slow and steady.

    same here.

    lots of people suffer from former fat guy syndrome- girls to ;)

    its' fine- it's normal to feel that way. But don't change your path because of it.

    For yourself did it take long for you to overcome that mentality? How much weight did you allow yourself to bulk till? Did you diet down after, or just maintain :) would be great if you can advice me on your workout routine in a week? thx!

  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    jdscrubs32 wrote: »
    I believe many ladies here (in particular) are coming off a cut or weight loss. I myself lost 30kg in 2014. Now i'm currently 158cm, 47 kg. Im not underweight, but i have low bodyfat (below 15%) which can be seen from my vascularity in my arms (although when im not flexing - kinda dangerously low and somewhat unsightly).

    Goal now: Be stronger, less scrawny. But i see myself as flabby still...

    But any one else is like me, facing conflicting thoughts on bulk vs seeing some weight gain on the scale? How do you overcome it... Because most people i speak to who are bulking are ectomorphs (skinny all their life).. They cant seem to relate to me (being once obese since i was a kid). Hoping to get some advice and motivation here!

    Hi was like you as a child and until my mid 20s in that I was very overweight. Lost it all and now looking to put on muscle and weight. My calorie level is set at a very high rate but that is just me. Like you when the PT got me on the this specific level, I was worried about putting all the fat back on. The PT got that out of the back of my head. I'm actually enjoying eating all the food, seeing the increased muscle growth and while the body fat has increased, that doesn't bother me. You cannot really have one without the other. Anyway good luck.

    Same I have a PT! But i just dont trust myself with the programme, especially when i eat out on weekends, do you have that problem? May i please know your body stats, calorie intake and workout routine now.

    how much weight did you gain and over how many months? Maintaining now, or dieting down? I dont really want to go through the process of diet again, hence i am just wondering if there's such a thing as lift to get stronger (slight weight gain) and just maintain there? With a good higher calorie diet! :)

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  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    What helped me get through the weight gain during my bulk was focusing on the positives.. how much better my glutes and legs were looking, how much energy I had, setting PRs, etc.

    This is a great read: http://www.jcdfitness.com/2009/10/the-former-fat-boy-syndrome/

    wow! this article on former fat kid syndrome clearly outlined the cycle of bulk - paranoid (cut a little)- bulk - paranoid (cut a little) totally relates to me! Did you get through this process as well? How much weight did you gain and over how many months? Maintaining now, or dieting down still :) Will really appreciate some good advice! How's your workout routine like now?
  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    So I'm not coming from exactly the same place as you -- if I'm trusting the metric conversions you're over 6 feet and about 100 pounds?

    I was fat in high school, and college, and any time I ever went to the gym it was with the goal of losing weight. In fact, I started this year trying to get down to 185 from 205. I noticed the increased vascularity, but it got increasingly difficult to lose the closer I got. I bottomed out at about 190 and realized that five more pounds might make a difference visually, but I was a long way away from that. And I was miserable from being on too strict a caloric restriction for too long. And when I got there, I wasn't going to have tons of muscle to show for it.

    So I've decided to bulk. I've lost weight before; I'm confident I can do it again. I'm not planning on gaining anything insane and I'm hoping that when I cut down again there will be more muscle underneath to show. I kind of realized that the numbers on the scale don't really matter if you aren't satisfied with the visuals.

    You may actually be shocked at how much food your body can soak up when you're training hard, and consistently. Just keep tracking and make adjustments as needed.

    BTW, my all time high was about 240 so I really do feel you on the anxiety of bulking as a former fat kid. I can't speak for everyone but for me, it still hasn't gone away completely.

    Edit: I realized I didn't answer your question. Yes, it scares me but I'm giving it a shot.

    Thanks for your kind reply! Actually how strict are you with calories counting when on a bulk, especially when i do eat out on weekends and when we have to be in a consistent calorie surplus (but i'm looking for a lean and clean bulk)? ! How much weight did you gain and over how many months? Will love to hear if there's a possibility of bulking (to a happy weight) and just maintaining...Do you think its possible? Will be great if you can share your workout routine now for the week! :) I know it's a lot of questions to soak up, but i really need to some advice from you guys! thanks!!!
  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    I’m working towards a bulk as soon as I have a lower bf% (I’m 132 at 5’4” now and around 24% I think).

    It scares me like crazy too, but what really helps is realizing that you won’t be gaining *that* much weight. I try to think about it in small amounts of 5 lbs at a time. If half of that is muscle and half fat, shedding 2.5lbs is do-able fairly easily.

    Besides, I enjoy the process of lifting and feeling stronger a lot. And the extra weight would look awesome on someone who’s putting on some muscle too!

    Yes it does! Sounds really scary and kinda paranoid since I have the former fat kid syndrome. Around how much weight are you intending to gain from a bulk? After which any intention to cut?

    I completely get that. I would start with a small bulk for sure and wouldn’t go further than gaining 5 lbs. But truth is, I don’t really know yet. I’ll worry about it more when I get there. I’d absolutely cut after, but carefully: don’t want to lose the muscle! I don’t know much more at this point. Wish I could be more helpful!

    I guess for me, once i've hit my happy weight (48 - 49kg), i will try to maintain and be happy! And with that said, it means to stop / loosely count my calories as well...
  • Emilia777
    Emilia777 Posts: 978 Member
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    I completely get that. I would start with a small bulk for sure and wouldn’t go further than gaining 5 lbs. But truth is, I don’t really know yet. I’ll worry about it more when I get there. I’d absolutely cut after, but carefully: don’t want to lose the muscle! I don’t know much more at this point. Wish I could be more helpful!

    Is it really that big a concern to lose a noticeable amount of muscle while cutting? I'm down a good 40 lbs from where I was 3 or 4 years ago and I have not noticed any measurable decrease in muscle the whole time. In fact I know I am stronger and have a lot more muscle endurance than I had before I began. It seems like you'd have to be extremely negligent to lose much at all. As long as you're doing some basic well-rounded resistance training. The only times I've seen people who looked like they lost muscle mass was when they just stopped exercising/lifting all together, then they just looked skinnier for a while till they started to lift again.

    Yep, the way I see it, if you keep lifting the muscle shouldn’t go anywhere, even if you’re eating at a deficit. I confess I fret about it a fair amount, but that’s because right now I’ve been at a deficit for a while. However, I’m keeping up with my strength training, so it should be fine.

    @Shouliveshappy Maintaining and being happy sounds wonderful to me. I’m sure you’ll get there in no time. Best of luck!

    P.S. You ask about workout routines: I do Starting Strength (there’s an informative thread about it on bodybuilding if you google it) and I really love it! I also run a few times a week.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    I lost 25kgs fat nearly 5 years ago. I then started competing in bodybuilding comps. It took me a long time to get over the fear of "bulking" and getting "fat", or going back where I'd come from. I wasted many months (probably closer to a year) of potential growing time by staying lean.... I also had an unrealistic view of what I thought was an attractive and sustainable level of body fat. I am now comfortable having a layer of fat.. For health and for my growing goals!
  • jdscrubs32
    jdscrubs32 Posts: 515 Member
    jdscrubs32 wrote: »
    I believe many ladies here (in particular) are coming off a cut or weight loss. I myself lost 30kg in 2014. Now i'm currently 158cm, 47 kg. Im not underweight, but i have low bodyfat (below 15%) which can be seen from my vascularity in my arms (although when im not flexing - kinda dangerously low and somewhat unsightly).

    Goal now: Be stronger, less scrawny. But i see myself as flabby still...

    But any one else is like me, facing conflicting thoughts on bulk vs seeing some weight gain on the scale? How do you overcome it... Because most people i speak to who are bulking are ectomorphs (skinny all their life).. They cant seem to relate to me (being once obese since i was a kid). Hoping to get some advice and motivation here!

    Hi was like you as a child and until my mid 20s in that I was very overweight. Lost it all and now looking to put on muscle and weight. My calorie level is set at a very high rate but that is just me. Like you when the PT got me on the this specific level, I was worried about putting all the fat back on. The PT got that out of the back of my head. I'm actually enjoying eating all the food, seeing the increased muscle growth and while the body fat has increased, that doesn't bother me. You cannot really have one without the other. Anyway good luck.

    Same I have a PT! But i just dont trust myself with the programme, especially when i eat out on weekends, do you have that problem? May i please know your body stats, calorie intake and workout routine now.

    how much weight did you gain and over how many months? Maintaining now, or dieting down? I dont really want to go through the process of diet again, hence i am just wondering if there's such a thing as lift to get stronger (slight weight gain) and just maintain there? With a good higher calorie diet! :)

    I'm five foot four/five inches.
    Weight a year ago was 57 kg. It is not 62.7kg. Body fat a year ago was 5%. Now its 10.5%. It was low because when I lost all the weight, I literally lost it all. Calorie intake at the moment is 4,000 but that is only because I have a high metabolism. The PT had gotten me to increase my level to 3,000 but was still losing. Same with 3,500. Thankfully I am gaining on 4,000. While I've been with the PT for a year, its only in the last 6 months, since I've been on the 4,000 calories that my weight/muscle has increased. I'm still bulking and going to continue that way till I reach 70kg where the PT & I will reassess things then. At the start I was worried that by eating all that food, I would put the fat back on but I got over it and there really isn't any way around it to be honest.

    The PT gives me a new program every month & half, two months or so. I've started the split program, the power, muscle & burn program.

    As for eating out at the weekends or during the week which is rare as I make my own stuff, check to see wherever you are going is on the database. If its not and you are going to a burger joint, pick somewhere in the database that is close enough in food terms to what you are going to have. As you want to increase weight/muscle, it would be better to slightly overestimate what you are going to have.

    If you are doing cardio, reduce it to once a week at the most for a max of 30 minutes.

    All of the above is working for me. Everyone is different so see what works for you and stick with it.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Just do the bulk! Jump in and do it.

    I'm fat phobic, but loved my bulk from 123lb to 133lb, (5'7")felt amazing, good lifting results, and I didn't look fat. AT ALL. And I'm body dismorphic too. But I could see the 'lift' and fit shape, small waist still, C shaped butt.

    It's well known that under eating causes body dismorphia due to disruption to brain chemicals.

    I believe bulking is good for your brain. (And bones, skin, blood, digestion, muscle, hormones, hair, nails, teeth, sex life, attitude.... Have I missed anything JoRocka?)
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    OP we were similar body fats and BMI, I'm pretty sure you could bulk up 10-15lb and still look lean. That's the beauty of starting with a very low BF. You are in an absolutely ideal place!

    Which programme are you going to choose?
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    What helped me get through the weight gain during my bulk was focusing on the positives.. how much better my glutes and legs were looking, how much energy I had, setting PRs, etc.

    This is a great read: http://www.jcdfitness.com/2009/10/the-former-fat-boy-syndrome/

    wow! this article on former fat kid syndrome clearly outlined the cycle of bulk - paranoid (cut a little)- bulk - paranoid (cut a little) totally relates to me! Did you get through this process as well? How much weight did you gain and over how many months? Maintaining now, or dieting down still :) Will really appreciate some good advice! How's your workout routine like now?

    Bulking after just having lost weight was definitely tricky.. it was hard to see that scale move back up after working to get it down. But I kept my eye on the prize especially after seeing the fantastic results of the amazing ladies on here who have been though it before.

    I gained 10 lbs over about 4.5 months, I maintained for about a month after.. now I am doing a mini-cut just to obtain more definition. Honestly though, my body now compared to before at the same weight is completely different. Gaining is hard but trust the process and stick with it.. the rewards are worth it. Good luck! ;)
  • keithcw_the_first
    keithcw_the_first Posts: 382 Member

    Thanks for your kind reply! Actually how strict are you with calories counting when on a bulk, especially when i do eat out on weekends and when we have to be in a consistent calorie surplus (but i'm looking for a lean and clean bulk)? ! How much weight did you gain and over how many months? Will love to hear if there's a possibility of bulking (to a happy weight) and just maintaining...Do you think its possible? Will be great if you can share your workout routine now for the week! :) I know it's a lot of questions to soak up, but i really need to some advice from you guys! thanks!!!

    I'm still starting out so... I guess just keep that in mind.

    I'm fairly strict with calories in that I have a surplus in mind and I try to hit it and not go over too far. It varies though, as my training days and rest days differ by about 400- 600 calories.

    Right now I'm approaching week 2 of the bulk. Weight gain is difficult to assess with water weight and that but it looks like it's going to come in at about a pound (averaged out). I'm going to give it two full weeks before really considering changing anything.

    I think bulking to a weight and then maintaining would be something like a modest caloric excess, something slow, and then the notorious "recomposition" where you eat at or slightly above maintenance and continue to slowwwwwwly put on muscle while hopefully slowwwwwwly leaning out.

    I do Stronglifts, kind of. It's 5x5 twice a week on Mondays and Saturdays. I can't get to the gym more than that so I do some bodyweight stuff on Wednesdays; planks, decline pushups, that kind of thing. For the bodyweight exercises I try to keep them difficult enough that I can't do more than 9 or so reps. I'm not banging out 50 pushups Wednesday morning or anything. If you're curious about bodyweight stuff, I reccomend this guy:

    http://www.startbodyweight.com/p/exercise-progressions_12.html

    He's got progressions that go all the way from pushups on forearms and knees to one armed pushups, with about eight increasingly difficult steps in between. It's a great way to progress. I only recently graduated to wall planks and when those get easier, I'll start walking up the wall a bit more.

    So, that's it. Hopefully people with some more experience will chime in as well.

  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Everyone at some point will struggle phsycological with a bulk- even if it's just the OMG I FEEL SO FAT aspect of it.

    Everyone.

    Bulking is about committing to the long term. Trusting the process- and staying the course.

    Remember what ever you CHOSE to do- you can chose to undo. Much like weight loss- this is not quick- it's a slow steady process- if you lost weight- were you scared while you were losing weight? Were you scared when you first took a calorie deficit?

    nope- slow and steady.

    same here.

    lots of people suffer from former fat guy syndrome- girls to ;)

    its' fine- it's normal to feel that way. But don't change your path because of it.

    For yourself did it take long for you to overcome that mentality? How much weight did you allow yourself to bulk till? Did you diet down after, or just maintain :) would be great if you can advice me on your workout routine in a week? thx!

    I was specifically reaching for strength goals- not size goals (bigger muscles = bigger engine) I didn't want to weight on my programing to break the 300 pound mark on my DL.

    So I admittedly bulked a bit high (158 mark)- and essentially went from 160 pounds to 180.

    I had some really bad days- I spent most of my birthday crying in Feb because my bf said where pants you're willing to get dirty (which to me means jeans) and all of them were to tight I couldn't sit down comfrotably b/c the front was digging in. On our way to dinner I made him stop at Target so I could buy new ones.... unfortunately- none of them fit.

    At all the meats- went pottery painting- then we came home and he had not ONE- not TWO but THREE EFFING CAKES for me.

    it was hard. But I wanted my gains more than I wanted to "just be comfortable" so I drove through- Feb was probably my lowest point- and that's when I decided - make it to 4 months- by 4 months I had pushed on with food- and had started seeing even MORE growth- and that carried me into month 5.

    The thing is most people (women especially) start to timid- and they miss some great gains. It's rare to go in so aggressive you go- well damn- I gained WAY more than I wanted... so by the time you're done... like- womp womp- whoops.... so- start a little harder than you think- you'll get real results and can feel proud of that- rather than oh well crap now I just feel fat. LOL
  • Debbynothing
    Debbynothing Posts: 8 Member
    I'm very anxious to the moment I will start to bulk. I'm losing weight and still have 37.4 lbs to lose, but when it happens I hope I can bulk without fear.
  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    OP we were similar body fats and BMI, I'm pretty sure you could bulk up 10-15lb and still look lean. That's the beauty of starting with a very low BF. You are in an absolutely ideal place!

    Which programme are you going to choose?
    That's great to know, that we are starting at the same point! I'm eating intuitively now... Stopped counting calories as I'm causing myself to have a bad relationship with food. :) currently I'm doing split body parts 3 times a week, and 1 to 2 cardio sessions... What's your routine like?


  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    I'm very anxious to the moment I will start to bulk. I'm losing weight and still have 37.4 lbs to lose, but when it happens I hope I can bulk without fear.

    You can do this! I've set my mind to it and I'm gonna achieve it! We can do this together...
  • Shouliveshappy
    Shouliveshappy Posts: 161 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Everyone at some point will struggle phsycological with a bulk- even if it's just the OMG I FEEL SO FAT aspect of it.

    Everyone.

    Bulking is about committing to the long term. Trusting the process- and staying the course.

    Remember what ever you CHOSE to do- you can chose to undo. Much like weight loss- this is not quick- it's a slow steady process- if you lost weight- were you scared while you were losing weight? Were you scared when you first took a calorie deficit?

    nope- slow and steady.

    same here.

    lots of people suffer from former fat guy syndrome- girls to ;)

    its' fine- it's normal to feel that way. But don't change your path because of it.

    For yourself did it take long for you to overcome that mentality? How much weight did you allow yourself to bulk till? Did you diet down after, or just maintain :) would be great if you can advice me on your workout routine in a week? thx!

    I was specifically reaching for strength goals- not size goals (bigger muscles = bigger engine) I didn't want to weight on my programing to break the 300 pound mark on my DL.

    So I admittedly bulked a bit high (158 mark)- and essentially went from 160 pounds to 180.

    I had some really bad days- I spent most of my birthday crying in Feb because my bf said where pants you're willing to get dirty (which to me means jeans) and all of them were to tight I couldn't sit down comfrotably b/c the front was digging in. On our way to dinner I made him stop at Target so I could buy new ones.... unfortunately- none of them fit.

    At all the meats- went pottery painting- then we came home and he had not ONE- not TWO but THREE EFFING CAKES for me.

    it was hard. But I wanted my gains more than I wanted to "just be comfortable" so I drove through- Feb was probably my lowest point- and that's when I decided - make it to 4 months- by 4 months I had pushed on with food- and had started seeing even MORE growth- and that carried me into month 5.

    The thing is most people (women especially) start to timid- and they miss some great gains. It's rare to go in so aggressive you go- well damn- I gained WAY more than I wanted... so by the time you're done... like- womp womp- whoops.... so- start a little harder than you think- you'll get real results and can feel proud of that- rather than oh well crap now I just feel fat. LOL

    I guess it's always starting.. Maybe I should stay away from the scale and just go by what I see in the mirror! Now I see a skinny, boney me... I want a well defined butt! I'm sure you are already well on your way! I can feel my butt starting to shape up, slow and steady... For yourself... How many meals do you eat a day? 5 to 6? And even when you are not hungry you'll still eat?
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