Moderation shmoderation
KeepItSimpleGirl
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Anyone else out there wonder how it is that people can say, "it's ok to have sweets, just so long as it's in moderation."? What?! If I have a doughnut, I want 2. If I grab an m&m from the candy bowl once, you can bet I'll be back around for a 2nd, 3rd and let's be honest, 4th, 5th and 6th. If anyone out there has struggled with this same problem and figured out a cure to this, please please enlighten me. I can't imagine depriving myself of deliciousness forever but I also don't want to go to bed hating myself for one small bite that turned into a weekend long binge. Sincerely, CadburyEgg SugarComa
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I want the weight gone more than I want to be a glutton. That is how I can stop at one.0
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It takes a shitload of willpower and dedication AND practice to stop at 5 m&ms or 8.14 chips. Thats my only explanation
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I totally get it. It was tough at first, but for the meantime, I just cut them out of my plan (for now that is), but I am getting to the point where I will start having some chocolate, ice cream, etc. I am (for now) sticking with fruit, yogurt for my sweets. I've been pretty good so far. Hubby's having almond poppy seed muffins. They are huge, but no nutritional info, so I could only guess at the amount. I was thinking maybe 50???
Ha ha yeah right, more like 500 +. But, after almost 2 months without the baked yummies, I am not craving them and a banana feels decadent now. I'm having that with blueberries and yogurt tonight 
I am going to have chocolate ice cream next week, but fit it into my calorie goal and see if I go nuts for seconds?? I think I can do this now, but It was major difficult before. Ahh jeez all this talking about chocolate is making me want to dip my banana in it, roll it in nuts, freeze and eat it OMG yumm. 
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"I punish my body outdoors to atone for my atrocities indoors."-The Oatmeal
I either can force myself to have just one or I force myself to run. I exercise to be able to treat myself to the goodies.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/running
Read it. It's funny.
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ITA with Christine! It's willpower. Some days you will have more than others. As long as you don't let one off day or off meal derail you completely, you will be fine.0
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lilaclovebird wrote: »"I punish my body outdoors to atone for my atrocities indoors."-The Oatmeal
I either can force myself to have just one or I force myself to run. I exercise to be able to treat myself to the goodies.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/running
Read it. It's funny.
Me likes this method of thought
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I started with pre portioned baggies of goodies that were in the drawer and rules as to how I was allowed to eat them. one at a time, get back up and get another one, short walk before you get a third one, walk to the store and back to get a high value item.
All that together with paying for over indulging a few times by not having room for dinner, or having to earn dinner, or just failing to meet my goal, has eventually led to better decisions, including the absence of certain things from the house and still having to walk to the store to get them if they're really wanted!0 -
I love chocolate, wine, ice cream and I want to lose weight. So I've learned moderation so I can be happy and lose weight. I don't know, I guess willpower and taking small steps.0
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For me, I find that avoiding all snack foods is best for MY health. But this is only for ME. Most people however find that they just have to include snacks in their diet... The best advice that I can offer you is to have your treats, savor the flavors and enjoy the treat. Take a longer time to think about how delicious it is instead of gorging mindlessly. I can almost guarantee this technique will leave you feeling better.... That's how a habit of moderation is formed...0
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I totally agree! I make a batch of cookies, and I want to eat four of them. Or five or ten. For me, it's about getting into the mindset of working within my calorie allowance. I budget treats (aka sweets for me) into my calories every day, usually as dessert after dinner. If I know I have enough calories for one awesome donut, then I take my time enjoying it, and when it's gone, it's gone! No option to have more. If I don't want to be "limited" to one dessert, I'll budget 75 calories of one thing and 100 of another (or something like that).0
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Also if it's not in the house, i cant eat it! I have yet to have such a severe craving that i've jumped in my car and driven all the way to the shop to get it . Majority of the time i just couldn't be bothered0
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Increase the amount of protein that you are eating on a daily basis.
Also, if you are eating M&Ms, have some chicken, or Greek yogurt, or cottage cheese, or some other protein source at the same time. The protein will help to moderate the blood sugar spike that you would get from eating the M&Ms by themselves. That will mediate the insulin response to the rise in blood sugar, and therefore won't lead to a drastic drop in blood sugar from the insulin response and won't lead to you reaching for the M&Ms again.0 -
Maybe you can stay away from those thing for a while? And just focus on your goal.
We don't all have to go about things the same exact way. Some find comfort in enjoying m&m's often during their process... others find it easier to go cold turkey. Others save them for a programmed cheat meal (or whatever you call it) or special events. Do whatever doesn't drive you crazy. Be kind to yourself and do what gives you peace of mind and enjoyment... and ditch what makes you anxious and fretful.
If you do cave in and binge, though, just consider that the little "episode" slowed down your weekly process or so a bit... it doesn't mean it stopped the whole damn thang 0 -
lilaclovebird wrote: »"I punish my body outdoors to atone for my atrocities indoors."-The Oatmeal
That's great, unless you live in BBQ country...
Moderation works for some people and is a disaster for others. Elimination works for some people and is a disaster for others. Use what works best for *you*.
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I eat tons of chocolate every day. So I work my a** off at the gym!0
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christinev297 wrote: »Also if it's not in the house, i cant eat it! I have yet to have such a severe craving that i've jumped in my car and driven all the way to the shop to get. Majority of the time i just couldn't be bothered
This is mainly our strategy as well. We find it really easy to say no at the grocery store, but once it's home, it becomes much harder!
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My husband has his Pringles crisps in the pantry.... For more than a half year ago i would eat them.... Now i took a couple a few days ago. Enjoy them and moved on.
My weight loss is more important than some yummie Pringles.
I will still eat them...but only when it suits me and when they fit in my calorie allowance.... If i want them i make it fit lol
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I choose not to eat them. At all. It's easier for me to say no to the first cookie than it is to say no to the second, third, etc.0
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I remember those days, but they are long gone. I had cut out certain foods for many years until I figured out this thing about moderation. I take package out, weigh portion, log it, put package away, and eat. If I can do it, anyone can.KeepItSimpleGirl wrote: »Anyone else out there wonder how it is that people can say, "it's ok to have sweets, just so long as it's in moderation."? What?! If I have a doughnut, I want 2. If I grab an m&m from the candy bowl once, you can bet I'll be back around for a 2nd, 3rd and let's be honest, 4th, 5th and 6th. If anyone out there has struggled with this same problem and figured out a cure to this, please please enlighten me. I can't imagine depriving myself of deliciousness forever but I also don't want to go to bed hating myself for one small bite that turned into a weekend long binge. Sincerely, CadburyEgg SugarComa I am successful about 90% of the time, which works just fine for me. 0 -
Log it
Consider what other food you will have to give up that day to feed your gluttony ...if you log that extra doughnut what will your next meal be like, is it worth it
There's your answer ...is it worth it0 -
See that's not the only way to moderate. Some things I can easily moderate the way you mentioned, by buying single servings of the thing. I mean you don't need to have a whole bowl of M&Ms. A pack of M&Ms mini is under 100 calories and is sometimes more than enough for my purposes. No left overs to come back for and I'm left satisfied and happy.
The other moderation technique is to save up calories for something over a week (or more) if it's worth it. If I want to go out and have a full blown high calorie dinner of whatever I want + drinks + dessert I would spend an extra 15 minutes incline walking and reduce my daily intake by 100 calories, and in a couple of weeks that's more than 3000 calories in store to blow on anything I want. That's still called moderation because I'm moderating my calories to fit in foods. It doesn't have to be done during the same day to be called moderation.
Why do some diss moderation when they do it with their other foods. I mean, you are on a diet you will automatically have less oatmeal, smaller amounts of rice, limit fruits to 2-3 times a day, moderate oil by sauteing or broiling instead of deep frying...etc, but because these foods are not "special" the willpower involved in moderating them is somehow different. Solution: try to rip off the "special" label from cadbury eggs. Easier said than done, I know, but with practice, time, and gradual mindset changes it can be done and the mastery of this skill will prove extremely valuable come maintenance.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »See that's not the only way to moderate. Some things I can easily moderate the way you mentioned, by buying single servings of the thing. I mean you don't need to have a whole bowl of M&Ms. A pack of M&Ms mini is under 100 calories and is sometimes more than enough for my purposes. No left overs to come back for and I'm left satisfied and happy.
The other moderation technique is to save up calories for something over a week (or more) if it's worth it. If I want to go out and have a full blown high calorie dinner of whatever I want + drinks + dessert I would spend an extra 15 minutes incline walking and reduce my daily intake by 100 calories, and in a couple of weeks that's more than 3000 calories in store to blow on anything I want. That's still called moderation because I'm moderating my calories to fit in foods. It doesn't have to be done during the same day to be called moderation.
Why do some diss moderation when they do it with their other foods. I mean, you are on a diet you will automatically have less oatmeal, smaller amounts of rice, limit fruits to 2-3 times a day, moderate oil by sauteing or broiling instead of deep frying...etc, but because these foods are not "special" the willpower involved in moderating them is somehow different. Solution: try to rip off the "special" label from cadbury eggs. Easier said than done, I know, but with practice, time, and gradual mindset changes it can be done and the mastery of this skill will prove extremely valuable come maintenance.
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Great suggestions! I think my 1st step will be to clear my cupboards of the temptations for now. Will someone please come pick up my leftover Easter candy first thing tomorrow morning? It will break my hear to throw it away.
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Thank you friends!0
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lilaclovebird wrote: »"I punish my body outdoors to atone for my atrocities indoors."-The Oatmeal
I either can force myself to have just one or I force myself to run. I exercise to be able to treat myself to the goodies.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/running
Read it. It's funny.
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KeepItSimpleGirl wrote: »Great suggestions! I think my 1st step will be to clear my cupboards of the temptations for now. Will someone please come pick up my leftover Easter candy first thing tomorrow morning? It will break my hear to throw it away.
Make someone's day and give it to them! Someone nice.0 -
Yeah send the Easter candy to work. My coworkers were slacking off this year. The left over candy batches sent to work were kinda light
Yup I buy just one single serving of pastries and the likes. Once it's gone, it's gone. Smaller servings of icecream, etc. And I have indeed gone out at 3 AM to buy icecream. I think I finally ate all the icecream I wanted because I don't do this anymore. Haagen Dazs single serve vanilla almond was my favorite
Another thing helping me is to properly stow certain food items out of sight. Rather than store the cereal in plain sight actually have it in a [covered] cupboard. Many things I used to just mindlessly eat all day because I would see them whenever I went into the kitchen. Now that certain ones of them are out of sight, they actually last for weeks in the house rather than days. Right now I'm doing this with bread, cereal and bananas. Your weaknesses may be different I have to say, it's really nice to buy 80 cent bread and cheap bananas and have it feed me for weeks, whereas I couldn't do this before 0 -
Echo the post above. Just weighing out what I want as portion and then putting it out of sight (cupboard) is enough for me. Think of it as spreading the love to another day!0
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I'm 3.5 months into this and I don't think my will power has changed much at all. I try to avoid some things, and others I will have a small serving size of. I do okay with lower calorie options, but there are some things I can't resist, like the Cadbury Cream Egg. I'm so glad that season is over! I know if I do eat too many treats that I have to exercise more, but that doesn't always deter me. I'm hoping that I strengthen my will power eventually.0
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