Paleo anyone?
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janejellyroll wrote: »Look, any diet that you follow that gets you away from eating the tremendous amounts of refined foods, the pounds of sugar, and the gallons of saturated fats we consume, then how bad can it be?
Is the Paleo diet about reducing the amount of saturated fat in the diet? I've never done it, but I thought one the premises of the diet was that saturated fat wasn't harmful?
That's my understanding--none of the paleo sources/paleo followers I know are anti sat fat at all.
They are generally pro omega 3 and into pastured/wild-caught animals and, in theory (although I think this is followed less than some other bits) eating the whole animal.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »It's a fad diet with zero scientific support and a ridiculous premise.
If you want to follow it, have fun with that. Just don't go thinking it's any more magical thank the Atkins diet, the Grapefruit diet, the Cayenne Pepper diet or the myriad other fad diets that came before it.
Or, you could just follow CICO and eat whatever you like. Your choice.
You think a diet that admittedly has some pretty wild claims, but still promotes eating whole natural foods and not starving yourself to diets like the grapefruit or ceyenne pepper diet?
Any diet that isn't based on actual science or histroy, and uses outlandish claims while being very restrictive is a fad diet in my opinion.
Whether something is a fad has to do with popularity, not science.
In your opinion. That's fine.
Not sure what "time frame" constitutes a fad in your opinion, but I would think that Paleo would still fit that bill.
Also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_faddism
Wow! That is certainly a varied list of diets that Wiki has provided. By their definition, I would think timeframe is irrelevant.0 -
MDAPebbles67 wrote: »flippy1234 wrote: »Are you worried about any long term health effects? I have heard that it has not been studied enough.
I am not sure what long term health effects could occur by simply avoiding things like wheat, sugar, processed food and seed oils.
I think the argument would be that whole grains and beans and (arguably) dairy are good for you and (as Marion Nestle wrote in the NYT recently) that eliminating broad categories of food like that can remove beneficial properties that we may not even yet have identified and make it more difficult to get all our nutrients, that a varied diet is best.
My view is that the benefits of whole grains are likely overrated, and that someone can have a more varied diet on paleo quite easily than probably the average follower of SAD--it just depends on the individual.
But it is true that if we look at correlations those with whole grains and beans tend to be positive (see the recent discussion of the MIND diet and the related Med diet and DASH diet) and those with sat fat are negative.
I eat closer to paleo on average than DASH (just personal preference and that I don't think any of the efforts to find some ideal diet are particularly convincing--my view is that being active, not too overweight, and generally (not always) cooking from whole foods, getting enough protein, a good bit from fatty fish, and lots of veggies (ideally including greens) is probably good enough to do what you can toward health, and that all else is personal preference).0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »It's a fad diet with zero scientific support and a ridiculous premise.
If you want to follow it, have fun with that. Just don't go thinking it's any more magical thank the Atkins diet, the Grapefruit diet, the Cayenne Pepper diet or the myriad other fad diets that came before it.
Or, you could just follow CICO and eat whatever you like. Your choice.
You think a diet that admittedly has some pretty wild claims, but still promotes eating whole natural foods and not starving yourself to diets like the grapefruit or ceyenne pepper diet?
Any diet that isn't based on actual science or histroy, and uses outlandish claims while being very restrictive is a fad diet in my opinion.
Whether something is a fad has to do with popularity, not science.
In your opinion. That's fine.
Not sure what "time frame" constitutes a fad in your opinion, but I would think that Paleo would still fit that bill.
Also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_faddism
Wow! That is certainly a varied list of diets that Wiki has provided. By their definition, I would think timeframe is irrelevant.
Agreed.
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Whoa! Easy folks! I'm just saying! Yes, the Paleo diet allows you to consume some saturated fat, but it's by no means a free for all!0
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I know someone that has been on it for years and she is really healthy. She was in a car crash, almost lost her life, was in hospital for months and someone who was in the next bed told her about the diet, what she called the caveman diet. Once she was out of hospital she started and never looked back, which is over five years now. She is super fit and super brainy. She lost tons of weight and has not gained it back since. Its good for anyone suffering from IBS, or so I've been told.0
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Whoa! Easy folks! I'm just saying! Yes, the Paleo diet allows you to consume some saturated fat, but it's by no means a free for all!
I never said it was a free-for-all, but your comment seemed to indicate that someone going Paleo would reduce their consumption of saturated fat. Based on my observations, I don't think that is the case.0 -
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My friend uses coconut oil to fry but it actually is very healthy, its the only oil that doesn't burn and has zero cholesterol, that's what she said anyway. It leaves a nice taste.0
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"Healthy" is subjective. It's fine. There is nothing magical about it though. I think it makes food taste icky so I stick with olive oil or butter.My friend uses coconut oil to fry but it actually is very healthy, its the only oil that doesn't burn and has zero cholesterol, that's what she said anyway. It leaves a nice taste.
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Did you mean groundnut oil? As in peanut oil? As in oil made from the Paleo-frowned-upon legume? Yes, I use it for stir fry and popcorn.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Did you mean groundnut oil? As in peanut oil? As in oil made from the Paleo-frowned-upon legume? Yes, I use it for stir fry and popcorn.
Yes, the one and only. Once I have reached my target weight I might try the Paleo diet, very easy to follow where I am living. But, I love wheat, so I don't know. This comes from someone raised on potatoes. That's one food I could never do without. If I eat more potatoes I wouldn't be where I am today.
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My friend uses coconut oil to fry but it actually is very healthy, its the only oil that doesn't burn and has zero cholesterol, that's what she said anyway. It leaves a nice taste.
It's not healthier than other oils and all plant oils have zero cholesterol. It does burn, but smoke point is high (200 C I think?). Many other oils have a smoke point just as high or even higher like high oleic and refined oils, avocado oil, cotton seed oil, sesame oil, most nut oils...etc. Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with coconut oil if you like it, and there is nothing wrong with paleo either, but if you expect anything special from either you may be disappointed0
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