An obese person does not need to do one iota of exercise to lose weight
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I think any exercise that becomes a chore may not be the right type of exercise long term. MFP is helping me watch what I eat. I always try to stay within the calorie limit created by the allowed allowance but calories burnt off through exercise. For me exercise is just a license to eat more :-)0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »I think one problem is that people think exercise means doing sweaty stuff at the gym or while watching a video. Which can be great and all (I tend to like lots of more intense exercise), but I wouldn't advise any obese people to wait to get more active if they can just include more walking in their days. I think making changes positive ones and not just doing without can be really motivating to some people.
The interesting thing about mentioning walking? In the study of long term maintainers, it's the main form of exercise for the majority of them.
So successful and sustained weight loss isn't even about loads and loads of intense exercise, either.
Makes sense. The comparison I'm seeing in my head is between someone really overweight being forced to do something he or she finds unpleasant for 30 min, 3 times a week (as in those studies). Say brisk walking on a treadmill in a gym or even jogging or the elliptical. That's not so many calories, really, but could easily lead to an "I deserve a treat to make up for this" kind of reaction, and quite possibly being even more sedentary at other times.
But compare that with "incorporate 10,000 steps over the course of a day" for someone who was previously doing only 2000 steps. You probably get a greater increase in overall TDEE and don't have the compulsion to eat more.
Saying activity isn't important isn't the right conclusion, IMO.0 -
Nobody needs exercise to lose weight.
Just a calorie deficit.
Granted, exercise is a pretty handy way to help create one, and it has lots of other benefits, too.
But no, it's not necessary for weight loss.0 -
meganjcallaghan wrote: »
Anyway I think the. Best saying I have seen to win this all up. You can't outrun a bad diet.
I don't know about that. I suppose it depends on what you consider "bad". I would consider anything I was allergic to, or that would poison me to be "bad", but anything else is just food. Considering how much ice cream and chocolate I consume and have still managed to maintain my weight for a year and a half, my running seems to be doing the trick.
Yes. And again, I gained weight because I quit exercising without decreasing my calories.
For some time while losing (I'm now maintaining), I was eating more than my sedentary maintenance yet still losing.
People do need to have a way of monitoring what they are eating (can be calorie counting, doesn't have to be) to make sure they don't react to exercise by increasing calories even more, but lots of people maintain or even lose primarily through exercise. Many of these people probably weren't obese at any point, however.
I also recommend Matt Fitzgerald's discussion of exercise and weight loss in Diet Cults.0 -
Even though I agree with the you can't outrun a bad diet stance, my weight loss is completely due to exercise. I still eat 3000+ calories a day... Once I get my diet under control, this weight loss thing should be a breeze, right.0
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Exercise effort allows you to reward yourself with added treats that take you over your daily calorie allowance. Plus exercise makes you feel good with the release of natural occuring endorphins.0
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llUndecidedll wrote: »Even though I agree with the you can't outrun a bad diet stance, my weight loss is completely due to exercise. I still eat 3000+ calories a day... Once I get my diet under control, this weight loss thing should be a breeze, right.
Yowsas
How many calories do you burn everyday to eat 3000 calories and still lose weight?
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christinev297 wrote: »llUndecidedll wrote: »Even though I agree with the you can't outrun a bad diet stance, my weight loss is completely due to exercise. I still eat 3000+ calories a day... Once I get my diet under control, this weight loss thing should be a breeze, right.
Yowsas How many calories do you burn everyday to eat 3000 calories and still lose weight?
More than 3000?
You know, if co>ci then weight loss?0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »llUndecidedll wrote: »Even though I agree with the you can't outrun a bad diet stance, my weight loss is completely due to exercise. I still eat 3000+ calories a day... Once I get my diet under control, this weight loss thing should be a breeze, right.
Yowsas How many calories do you burn everyday to eat 3000 calories and still lose weight?
More than 3000?
You know, if co>ci then weight loss?
yes I'm aware. I was just wondering how much exercise they do to be able to eat over 3000 calories and still lose weight.
Obviously their current weight may have alot to do with it..
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I would say that diet is the main key to weight loss, but that the benefits of exercise are so numerous in terms of mental health, fitness, reducing bp etc. that it is something that everyone should try to incorporate a little, even if it is just walking.
If you look at shows like Biggest Loser or Obese: A Year to Change My Life, they put a huge stress on doing rigorous exercise. I guess one of the concerns about the emphasis on exercise is that it makes people think, "I can't exercise like that without a trainer, so I won't even try losing weight". In reality, you have to do a long gym session to burn the calories in just one piece of cake, and the really big folks in these TV shows would lose weight very quickly even without the exercise.
I also think that because exercise is so good for your mental health it keeps you on track. You feel pretty good so are less likely to comfort eat or sabotage yourself. Eat less, move more, in that order, I would say.
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Exercise is so hard and such a chore. It has to be exercise that fits in with your lifestyle. For me I cycle to and from work ( 20 miles) and work on my allotment every evening. The main thing is it does not feel like exercise.0
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weight loss occurs in the kitchen. exercise is for health.
i exercise for a lot of reasons, but if i ONLY wanted to lose WEIGHT.... CICO.0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »Very true, but the other benefits to exercise are huge. I once read "losing weight is about looking good clothed. Exercise is about looking good naked". Overly simplified and not always true, but it kind of captures it.
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My RMR is over 2000, so it wouldn't take an outrageous amount of exercise. Taking about 12K steps a day and lifting three times a week puts my TDEE over 3000. Granted, I'm not a small person.christinev297 wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »llUndecidedll wrote: »Even though I agree with the you can't outrun a bad diet stance, my weight loss is completely due to exercise. I still eat 3000+ calories a day... Once I get my diet under control, this weight loss thing should be a breeze, right.
Yowsas How many calories do you burn everyday to eat 3000 calories and still lose weight?
More than 3000?
You know, if co>ci then weight loss?
yes I'm aware. I was just wondering how much exercise they do to be able to eat over 3000 calories and still lose weight.
Obviously their current weight may have alot to do with it..
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^This.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »
It means they agree with what was said in the post above/post they quoted.
^This.
Church.0 -
Makes me wonder how they work out calories for exercise and food.0
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