TRUE or FALSE?

Jesusjohnjames

You cant out train a bad diet?

Either way calories IN Vs calories OUT?

Example:
****If You eat 2500 calories of Chips & Candy. But you burn off 2000 calories,you will still create a calorie deficient Correct?? So you NET 1500

Jesusjohnjames

Granted you will not have energy to workout in the first place.

DemoraFairy

Well yes, you can out exercise your bad diet if your bad diet is only the amount of calories over your maintenance that you burnt off. Though with your numbers there you'd be netting 500, not 1500 :P

That phrase is used to show that you don't need exercise to lose - you are guaranteed to lose weight with only diet and no exercise. But you are not guaranteed to lose weight with only exercise and no diet, if that makes sense. Diet is sufficient, exercise is not.

DeguelloTex

You can out-train a bad diet, depending on how bad it is and how much free time you have. At some point, it becomes impossible.

SezxyStef

you net 500 which is not good and on chips and candy burning 2k would be hard.

But yes...if I eat 1500 calories of "crap" and don't do anything except my daily "stuff" I will lose weight...

PeachyCarol

Oh, they say you put on visceral fat or something something something and don't burn as much as you think or something something something.

To be fair, most people won't burn that much with exercise.

However, yes, it is calories in, calories out, and we are always burning and storing fat.

As for storage of visceral fat, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that everything that I've seen so far trying to link it to one thing or another has all been correlative, and there's nothing definitive known yet.

Jesusjohnjames

Great Answers I love it

TimothyFish

DeguelloTex wrote: »

You can out-train a bad diet, depending on how bad it is and how much free time you have. At some point, it becomes impossible.

Yes and no. In terms of losing weight, you would have to eat an awful lot to not be able to burn off the extra calories through exercise. (Professional athletes can burn 8000+ per day.) But the origin of the statement has nothing to do with weight loss. Given two athletes who are training for a race, the guy who has the better diet is going to out perform the guy with the worse diet. A bad diet will prevent someone from training as well. That doesn't mean they'll be fat, but they won't be as fit.

DeguelloTex

TimothyFish wrote: »

DeguelloTex wrote: »

You can out-train a bad diet, depending on how bad it is and how much free time you have. At some point, it becomes impossible.

Yes and no. In terms of losing weight, you would have to eat an awful lot to not be able to burn off the extra calories through exercise. (Professional athletes can burn 8000+ per day.) But the origin of the statement has nothing to do with weight loss. Given two athletes who are training for a race, the guy who has the better diet is going to out perform the guy with the worse diet. A bad diet will prevent someone from training as well. That doesn't mean they'll be fat, but they won't be as fit.

At. Some. Point.

Professional athletes who burn 8000+ per day probably have more time to devote to that than the OP, don't you think? Surely you aren't arguing that OP is likely to consistently be to able to burn 8000+ per day.

Nothing you said is inconsistent with what I said, so I'm not sure what your "no" point is.

avskk

You can out-train a bad diet, but that's largely theoretical: unless by "bad diet" you mean only 1500-2000 total calories, a person in the real world is extremely unlikely to have the time and knowledge to train with the intensity required to burn off a "bad" (meaning extremely high-calorie, low-satiety) diet. And, of course, someone eating a strictly "bad" diet is unlikely to have the stamina or energy required to train intensely.

harpsdesire

While out training a bad diet might be physically possible, it is probably practically impossible after a certain point. There are only so many hours in a day to work out, and so much you can do without hurting yourself.

TimothyFish

DeguelloTex wrote: »

TimothyFish wrote: »

DeguelloTex wrote: »

You can out-train a bad diet, depending on how bad it is and how much free time you have. At some point, it becomes impossible.

Yes and no. In terms of losing weight, you would have to eat an awful lot to not be able to burn off the extra calories through exercise. (Professional athletes can burn 8000+ per day.) But the origin of the statement has nothing to do with weight loss. Given two athletes who are training for a race, the guy who has the better diet is going to out perform the guy with the worse diet. A bad diet will prevent someone from training as well. That doesn't mean they'll be fat, but they won't be as fit.

At. Some. Point.

Professional athletes who burn 8000+ per day probably have more time to devote to that than the OP, don't you think? Surely you aren't arguing that OP is likely to consistently be to able to burn 8000+ per day.

Nothing you said is inconsistent with what I said, so I'm not sure what your "no" point is.

The "no" point is that the statement "you can't out train a bad diet" is about training, not about weight loss. That is certainly true. If you are trying to improve your athletic performance, no amount of training is going to overcome a bad diet.

DeguelloTex

Well, given the wording of the question and fact that athletic performance wasn't part of the question, I'm not sure of the relevance to the question, but whatever. It simply seems to be a case of the OP using "train" as a synonym for "exercise" and not meaning "preparing for a boxing match, or Olympic swimming event, or whatever."