Undereating....

Valtishia
Valtishia Posts: 811 Member
edited November 2024 in Food and Nutrition
I just read a thread that had users going off on someone about "starvation mode". They were saying it doesn't exist and there is no way you wouldn't lose weight if you under eat.

I call bullsh**!!

I don't know if it is called starvation mode or just your body adapting to how much you eat and becoming more efficient. Call it whatever you want.

I know personally, I used to eat 1500 calories and would gain/lose the same few lbs over and over!! I am now eating 2800 calories and losing weight and inches slowly. I am still quite active... but even my activity level is lower than when I was eating 1500 calories.

Don't assume because someone is not losing weight that they are underestimating their calories and not weighing/measuring properly.

Its simple!! Sometimes the body just needs more fuel!!

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  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    Valtishia wrote: »
    I just read a thread that had users going off on someone about "starvation mode". They were saying it doesn't exist and there is no way you wouldn't lose weight if you under eat.

    I call bullsh**!!

    I don't know if it is called starvation mode or just your body adapting to how much you eat and becoming more efficient. Call it whatever you want.

    I know personally, I used to eat 1500 calories and would gain/lose the same few lbs over and over!! I am now eating 2800 calories and losing weight and inches slowly. I am still quite active... but even my activity level is lower than when I was eating 1500 calories.

    Don't assume because someone is not losing weight that they are underestimating their calories and not weighing/measuring properly.

    Its simple!! Sometimes the body just needs more fuel!!

    Curious about the bolded. It's confusing the sciencey side of my brain.
  • Caroleanne30
    Caroleanne30 Posts: 4 Member
    It is *kitten*. I was anorexic, then spent years eating 700kcals a day to try and recover. Over several years I became obese from under eating. Only now I've upped my calories to 1200-1400 have a managed to lose over 3 stone easily! I wish I'd done it sooner.
  • dakotababy
    dakotababy Posts: 2,407 Member
    Yeah, I know exactly what thread your talking about. Geeze, the savages on this website is just unreal.

    I mean, I dont really know the science behind it - and I dont really care. I know IN MY EXPERIENCE, I was not losing weight when I was eating 1600 calories. I bumped up my calories to 2000 calories and sure enough - I was losing weight again! This was after an 8 month plateau. No, my way of measuring did not change as I have always been fairly accurate with the logging (you get pretty good after 3 years).

    As long as a person is accurately measuring and logging/double checking everything, then I believe you can under eat.

    Savages, have fun with this one!
  • Valtishia
    Valtishia Posts: 811 Member
    zyxst wrote: »
    Valtishia wrote: »
    I just read a thread that had users going off on someone about "starvation mode". They were saying it doesn't exist and there is no way you wouldn't lose weight if you under eat.

    I call bullsh**!!

    I don't know if it is called starvation mode or just your body adapting to how much you eat and becoming more efficient. Call it whatever you want.

    I know personally, I used to eat 1500 calories and would gain/lose the same few lbs over and over!! I am now eating 2800 calories and losing weight and inches slowly. I am still quite active... but even my activity level is lower than when I was eating 1500 calories.

    Don't assume because someone is not losing weight that they are underestimating their calories and not weighing/measuring properly.

    Its simple!! Sometimes the body just needs more fuel!!

    Curious about the bolded. It's confusing the sciencey side of my brain.

    It didn't seem right to me either... but things just don't seem to work well when I don't fuel my body right.


  • slp51
    slp51 Posts: 201 Member
    "Sometimes the body just needs more fuel." So true!
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    So, you are saying you are an alien? And burn energy from sources other than food? Defying the basic laws of science as we know it? Is it something us humans could adapt to? because if you could share the trick, all these people living in extreme poverty who are starving, they would worship you as a deity.
    Or is there something else you are trying to say?
  • Caroleanne30
    Caroleanne30 Posts: 4 Member
    I think from reading all your comments, I might try and raise my calories higher and see if that helps me to loose a few more lbs!
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    Oh no wait, you are not an alien, you are promoting a specific product. Nice trick putting it in your profile and not directly advertising ;)
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    .............................what?
  • Valtishia
    Valtishia Posts: 811 Member
    aggelikik wrote: »
    Oh no wait, you are not an alien, you are promoting a specific product. Nice trick putting it in your profile and not directly advertising ;)

    I'm not sure what product you are talking about.... I'm not sure what you think you are reading in my profile. I eat food.. that I buy in a grocery store. Unless I own a grocery store I don't know about, then you are wayyyy off base.
  • dakotababy
    dakotababy Posts: 2,407 Member
    OP, I think maybe the EM2LW? Scooby's Calculator? The poster obviously has know clue wtf is going on.

    Sorry - I had to look to find out what your "advertising" in your profile!
  • Valtishia
    Valtishia Posts: 811 Member
    dakotababy wrote: »
    OP, I think maybe the EM2LW? Scooby's Calculator? The poster obviously has know clue wtf is going on.

    Sorry - I had to look to find out what your "advertising" in your profile!

    That must be it. Easier to jump to conclusions I guess.
  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    Agreed. In my weight loss I went through a 6 month period maintaining while religiously counting and weighing on 900-1200. I then increased to 1600-1800 and started losing 1lb a week without changing exercise until I lost 40lbs more on that amount. You can be eating too little and your body adapts to conserve energy. Bodies are so complex and we are conditioned to survive, so not eating enough causes hormonal and physiological changes for some. I guess it may not happen for everyone but I know I've talked to at least 10 others who experienced the same sort of thing.
  • Valtishia
    Valtishia Posts: 811 Member
    Agreed. In my weight loss I went through a 6 month period maintaining while religiously counting and weighing on 900-1200. I then increased to 1600-1800 and started losing 1lb a week without changing exercise until I lost 40lbs more on that amount. You can be eating too little and your body adapts to conserve energy. Bodies are so complex and we are conditioned to survive, so not eating enough causes hormonal and physiological changes for some. I guess it may not happen for everyone but I know I've talked to at least 10 others who experienced the same sort of thing.

    Its amazing how the body works!

    I would love to see more stories like this. It seems like we are the minority... at least based on what I have seen in the forums lately. Especially today!
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    Valtishia wrote: »
    zyxst wrote: »
    Valtishia wrote: »
    I just read a thread that had users going off on someone about "starvation mode". They were saying it doesn't exist and there is no way you wouldn't lose weight if you under eat.

    I call bullsh**!!

    I don't know if it is called starvation mode or just your body adapting to how much you eat and becoming more efficient. Call it whatever you want.

    I know personally, I used to eat 1500 calories and would gain/lose the same few lbs over and over!! I am now eating 2800 calories and losing weight and inches slowly. I am still quite active... but even my activity level is lower than when I was eating 1500 calories.

    Don't assume because someone is not losing weight that they are underestimating their calories and not weighing/measuring properly.

    Its simple!! Sometimes the body just needs more fuel!!

    Curious about the bolded. It's confusing the sciencey side of my brain.

    It didn't seem right to me either... but things just don't seem to work well when I don't fuel my body right.

    EM2LW was big on here when I joined 3 years ago. I understood it as "eating as much as you can while still being in a deficit", so reading that you are eating more and doing less than you were before and still losing weight is quite confusing to me. I'm not doubting it works for you. I'm very confused about it because hells yeah, if I can eat 2500 and lose the same amount of weight I am now, sign me up.
  • Valtishia
    Valtishia Posts: 811 Member
    edited May 2015
    zyxst wrote: »
    Valtishia wrote: »
    zyxst wrote: »
    Valtishia wrote: »
    I just read a thread that had users going off on someone about "starvation mode". They were saying it doesn't exist and there is no way you wouldn't lose weight if you under eat.

    I call bullsh**!!

    I don't know if it is called starvation mode or just your body adapting to how much you eat and becoming more efficient. Call it whatever you want.

    I know personally, I used to eat 1500 calories and would gain/lose the same few lbs over and over!! I am now eating 2800 calories and losing weight and inches slowly. I am still quite active... but even my activity level is lower than when I was eating 1500 calories.

    Don't assume because someone is not losing weight that they are underestimating their calories and not weighing/measuring properly.

    Its simple!! Sometimes the body just needs more fuel!!

    Curious about the bolded. It's confusing the sciencey side of my brain.

    It didn't seem right to me either... but things just don't seem to work well when I don't fuel my body right.

    EM2LW was big on here when I joined 3 years ago. I understood it as "eating as much as you can while still being in a deficit", so reading that you are eating more and doing less than you were before and still losing weight is quite confusing to me. I'm not doubting it works for you. I'm very confused about it because hells yeah, if I can eat 2500 and lose the same amount of weight I am now, sign me up.

    Its more... eat as much as you can without gaining weight (Eating at TDEE). Then, doing small cuts of no more than 10% to create a small deficit for fat loss for a period, then back to TDEE and repeat until you have reached desired results.

    After that, you can continue at TDEE or set new goals to gain more muscle by bulk/cut. Its all personal choice, but its mostly about fueling your body the best way you can.

    When I was eating 1500 calories, I was walking an hour per day and lifting 5 times per week.
    Now at 2800, I am walking a half hour per day, lifting 3 times per week and yoga a couple times per week when the mood strikes.

    My point really was that it is not the same cookie cutter science for everyone. Some people require more fuel to function properly. Others don't. I was just tired of seeing people rip people apart on other threads when they said they couldn't lose weight at bigger deficit.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    Valtishia wrote: »
    zyxst wrote: »
    Valtishia wrote: »
    zyxst wrote: »
    Valtishia wrote: »
    I just read a thread that had users going off on someone about "starvation mode". They were saying it doesn't exist and there is no way you wouldn't lose weight if you under eat.

    I call bullsh**!!

    I don't know if it is called starvation mode or just your body adapting to how much you eat and becoming more efficient. Call it whatever you want.

    I know personally, I used to eat 1500 calories and would gain/lose the same few lbs over and over!! I am now eating 2800 calories and losing weight and inches slowly. I am still quite active... but even my activity level is lower than when I was eating 1500 calories.

    Don't assume because someone is not losing weight that they are underestimating their calories and not weighing/measuring properly.

    Its simple!! Sometimes the body just needs more fuel!!

    Curious about the bolded. It's confusing the sciencey side of my brain.

    It didn't seem right to me either... but things just don't seem to work well when I don't fuel my body right.

    EM2LW was big on here when I joined 3 years ago. I understood it as "eating as much as you can while still being in a deficit", so reading that you are eating more and doing less than you were before and still losing weight is quite confusing to me. I'm not doubting it works for you. I'm very confused about it because hells yeah, if I can eat 2500 and lose the same amount of weight I am now, sign me up.

    Its more... eat as much as you can without gaining weight (Eating at TDEE). Then, doing small cuts of no more than 10% to create a small deficit for fat loss for a period, then back to TDEE and repeat until you have reached desired results.

    After that, you can continue at TDEE or set new goals to gain more muscle by bulk/cut. Its all personal choice, but its mostly about fueling your body the best way you can.

    When I was eating 1500 calories, I was walking an hour per day and lifting 5 times per week.
    Now at 2800, I am walking a half hour per day, lifting 3 times per week and yoga a couple times per week when the mood strikes.

    My point really was that it is not the same cookie cutter science for everyone. Some people require more fuel to function properly. Others don't. I was just tired of seeing people rip people apart on other threads when they said they couldn't lose weight at bigger deficit.

    Sounds like a modified version of calorie cycling, but not zig-zagging calories every day.

    If it's working, keep on it.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    It is *kitten*. I was anorexic, then spent years eating 700kcals a day to try and recover. Over several years I became obese from under eating. Only now I've upped my calories to 1200-1400 have a managed to lose over 3 stone easily! I wish I'd done it sooner.

    Your body adapted to low calories, so your requirement was low. You weren't "undereating" when you were putting on weight, you were eating more than your body needed. You can adapt the other way so your body uses more calories.... Which you've done. Well done!
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  • blossomingbutterfly
    blossomingbutterfly Posts: 743 Member
    At some point you gotta give your body a break from the calorie deficit. It gets used to that and starts to think it's your new maintenance. So you up them, refeed, then you start to loose again. Then you can continue. Many things work for different people. What works for one may not work for another. Glad OP found what works for her.
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