Body Fat or BMI?

Zedeff

portugaline wrote: »

BMI is not accurate for athletes or for some one looking for body composition...

Using BMI you can easily have an athlete result saying he is overweight when he is ripped and cut.

How many super fit elite athletes are obese and need an app to teach them to lose weight?

This concept doesn't apply to the MFP user base.

portugaline

Zedeff wrote: »

portugaline wrote: »

BMI is not accurate for athletes or for some one looking for body composition...

Using BMI you can easily have an athlete result saying he is overweight when he is ripped and cut.

How many super fit elite athletes are obese and need an app to teach them to lose weight?

This concept doesn't apply to the MFP user base.

I know many athletes that use MFP, and most that don't use it log there foods somewhere else.

And even for the regular user is not accurate, you can have 2 people with the same weight and height, BMI score will be the same, but one can be looking fat and the other lean at the same weight. is a guideline.

But for most of people will work well as guideline to lose weight pretty well

SezxyStef

Zedeff wrote: »

@SezxyStef you are not a special snowflake. You can pretend otherwise but BMI IS a research-proven validated standard. I'm on mobile and can't search pubmed for you, but the Harvard school of Medicine corroborates my statement.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/obesity-prevention-source/obesity-definition/obesity-definition-full-story/

did you not read my post and if you did read it did you get it? I said I thought I wouldn't ever be at a healthy bmi because of bone structure but here I am....wow esp since I know I am not a "special snowflake"...but you are special.

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/diet-fitness/weight-loss/bmi4.htm

The History of BMI
Using a formula to calculate obesity is not a new concept. In the nineteenth century, a Belgian statistician named Adolphe Quetelet came up with the Quetelet Index of Obesity, which measured obesity by dividing a person's weight (in kilograms) by the square of his or her height (in inches).

Formula: w/h2

Before 1980, doctors generally used weight-for-height tables -- one for men and one for women -- that included ranges of body weights for each inch of height. These tables were limited because they were based on weight alone, rather than body composition. BMI became an international standard for obesity measurement in the 1980s. The public learned about BMI the late 1990s, when the government launched an initiative to encourage healthy eating and exercise.

In 1998, the National Institutes of Health lowered the overweight threshold for BMI 27.8 to 25 to match international guidelines. The move added 30 million Americans who were previously in the "healthy weight" category to the "overweight" category. Today, the NIH advises doctors and their patients to include BMI in a complete assessment of a person's body size and overall health.

This last bolded part is what I said...it is not the "GOLD STANDARD" it is part and parcel to an overall assessment for health.

Zedeff

portugaline wrote: »

Zedeff wrote: »

portugaline wrote: »

BMI is not accurate for athletes or for some one looking for body composition...

Using BMI you can easily have an athlete result saying he is overweight when he is ripped and cut.

How many super fit elite athletes are obese and need an app to teach them to lose weight?

This concept doesn't apply to the MFP user base.

But for most of people will work well as guideline to lose weight pretty well

Bottom line right here.

jlturner386

portugaline wrote: »

Zedeff wrote: »

portugaline wrote: »

BMI is not accurate for athletes or for some one looking for body composition...

Using BMI you can easily have an athlete result saying he is overweight when he is ripped and cut.

How many super fit elite athletes are obese and need an app to teach them to lose weight?

This concept doesn't apply to the MFP user base.

I know many athletes that use MFP, and most that don't use it log there foods somewhere else.

And even for the regular user is not accurate, you can have 2 people with the same weight and height, BMI score will be the same, but one can be looking fat and the other lean at the same weight. is a guideline.

But for most of people will work well as guideline to lose weight pretty well

I 100% agree with the same height/weight looking completely different statement. I know I have a lot of weight to lose, but when I tell people I need to lose 60lbs to be a normal weight, they look at me like I have lost my mind......people assume I weigh about 155 to 165. I have NEVER had someone guess even close.

That being said, as of right now my goal weight is 160. That is 35lbs. I plan to evaluate once I hit that goal.

portugaline

jlturner386 wrote: »

portugaline wrote: »

Zedeff wrote: »

portugaline wrote: »

BMI is not accurate for athletes or for some one looking for body composition...

Using BMI you can easily have an athlete result saying he is overweight when he is ripped and cut.

How many super fit elite athletes are obese and need an app to teach them to lose weight?

This concept doesn't apply to the MFP user base.

I know many athletes that use MFP, and most that don't use it log there foods somewhere else.

And even for the regular user is not accurate, you can have 2 people with the same weight and height, BMI score will be the same, but one can be looking fat and the other lean at the same weight. is a guideline.

But for most of people will work well as guideline to lose weight pretty well

I 100% agree with the same height/weight looking completely different statement. I know I have a lot of weight to lose, but when I tell people I need to lose 60lbs to be a normal weight, they look at me like I have lost my mind......people assume I weigh about 155 to 165. I have NEVER had someone guess even close.

That being said, as of right now my goal weight is 160. That is 35lbs. I plan to evaluate once I hit that goal.

if you are thinking about being fat or no, you should pay attention to BF% and what you look like in the mirror, not the score on BMI.

if you just care about weight, and doesn't care how this weight looks like on you, then use BMI..

SezxyStef

jlturner386 wrote: »

portugaline wrote: »

Zedeff wrote: »

portugaline wrote: »

BMI is not accurate for athletes or for some one looking for body composition...

Using BMI you can easily have an athlete result saying he is overweight when he is ripped and cut.

How many super fit elite athletes are obese and need an app to teach them to lose weight?

This concept doesn't apply to the MFP user base.

I know many athletes that use MFP, and most that don't use it log there foods somewhere else.

And even for the regular user is not accurate, you can have 2 people with the same weight and height, BMI score will be the same, but one can be looking fat and the other lean at the same weight. is a guideline.

But for most of people will work well as guideline to lose weight pretty well

I 100% agree with the same height/weight looking completely different statement. I know I have a lot of weight to lose, but when I tell people I need to lose 60lbs to be a normal weight, they look at me like I have lost my mind......people assume I weigh about 155 to 165. I have NEVER had someone guess even close.

That being said, as of right now my goal weight is 160. That is 35lbs. I plan to evaluate once I hit that goal.

That is probably a good plan. Just ensure you are getting in enough protein and doing some resistance training and don't have too big of a deficit as you will lose too much muscle...which is not good.

As well I can relate to people not believing I weigh what I weigh...151 atm and people don't believe me...they expect me to say 120-130...

jlturner386

I 100% agree with the same height/weight looking completely different statement. I know I have a lot of weight to lose, but when I tell people I need to lose 60lbs to be a normal weight, they look at me like I have lost my mind......people assume I weigh about 155 to 165. I have NEVER had someone guess even close.

That being said, as of right now my goal weight is 160. That is 35lbs. I plan to evaluate once I hit that goal.

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if you are thinking about being fat or no, you should pay attention to BF% and what you look like in the mirror, not the score on BMI.

if you just care about weight, and doesn't care how this weight looks like on you, then use BMI..[/quote]

You are right.....I want to look so good at my goal weight people couldnt guess my weight How I feel is the most important part