Tummy Issues

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  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    Your calorie goal is NET
  • sk1nnyf0rm3
    sk1nnyf0rm3 Posts: 110 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    At a BMI of much less than 18 it sure sounds like you and your team still have to do some work to help you sort things out.

    It doesn't sound like you're of danger yet, and anything that is preventing you from eating like you should, is quite alarming to a lay person such as myself.

    Unfortunately, I do not think that you will find the answers you need to find by posting at a weight loss forum, or for that matter by hanging around weight loss forums.

    Take care!

    I see where your coming from, but I'm not here for the weight loss aspects. I'm here asking for help with this issue that is making it EXTREMELY difficult to eat as I should be.
  • sk1nnyf0rm3
    sk1nnyf0rm3 Posts: 110 Member
    Your calorie goal is NET

    Why is it net? Don't you only need a net of around 1200 if you don't exercise? So why would my goal need to be a net of higher? My BMR is like 1210ish
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,303 Member
    edited May 2015
    Not to be an *kitten*, but you are a person who should be trying to gain weight asking questions from (and hanging around people) who are trying to lose weight.

    The cognitive dissonance stems from the fact that three scrolls down your screen there is a weight gain forum where one would normally gravitate once they decide to gain weight.

    I'm on my phone right now; but, running your current numbers through a BMI calculator comes up with "go to your doctor now you are dangerously underweight". Hearing that you are having trouble eating, makes this more, not less worrisome.

    Why would you think that a weight loss forum is the right place for you to seek answers? Are you even supposed to be counting calories, for example? I don't know, and probably the vast majority of people here don't either. But I bet you that there do exist support forums populated by people who know and understand what you're experiencing.

    The short answer to your question is that to gain weight you have to eat ABOVE your TDEE. Consistently.

    Your BMR is an irrelevant distraction to you.

    About the only purpose it could possibly have for you is to serve as a calculation aid when it gets ****multiplied**** by an activity factor to help estimate the TDEE above which you should be eating.

    In other words there is no eating "around" your BMR of 1210.

    If you are relatively active in your daily life your BMR gets multiplied by 2.xx, and then you eat on top of that to gain weight.

    I would be extremely surprised if your doctors would not want you eating at well above 2,000Cal a day. I don't know and I am not sure (see where the right forum makes a difference) how fast and in what manner they would think you ought to get there. Have you asked them? Are you following their advice?
  • sk1nnyf0rm3
    sk1nnyf0rm3 Posts: 110 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Not to be an *kitten*, but you are a person who should be trying to gain weight asking questions from (and hanging around people) who are trying to lose weight.

    The cognitive dissonance stems from the fact that three scrolls down your screen there is a weight gain forum where one would normally gravitate once they decide to gain weight.

    I'm on my phone right now; but, running your current numbers through a BMI calculator comes up with "go to your doctor now you are dangerously underweight". Hearing that you are having trouble eating, makes this more, not less worrisome.

    Why would you think that a weight loss forum is the right place for you to seek answers? Are you even supposed to be counting calories, for example? I don't know, and probably the vast majority of people here don't either. But I bet you that there do exist support forums populated by people who know and understand what you're experiencing.

    The short answer to your question is that to gain weight you have to eat ABOVE your TDEE. Consistently.

    Your BMR is an irrelevant distraction to you.

    About the only purpose it could possibly have for you is to serve as a calculation aid when it gets ****multiplied**** by an activity factor to help estimate the TDEE above which you should be eating.

    In other words there is no eating "around" your BMR of 1210.

    If you are relatively active in your daily life your BMR gets multiplied by 2.xx, and then you eat on top of that to gain weight.

    I would be extremely surprised if your doctors would not want you eating at well above 2,000Cal a day. I don't know and I am not sure (see where the right forum makes a difference) how fast and in what manner they would think you ought to get there. Have you asked them? Are you following their advice?

    I was trying to get help with it and the weight gain as I understood it was mainly for muscle gain and I'm sorry if I was mistaken. I am not dangerously underweight (the cutoff for that is 16.5 for BMI which I am still above at 17.2).

    I know that you have to be above the TDEE for weight gain, I was referencing for weight maintaining because I want to figure that out before going on to figure out gaining right now because I have been struggling with gaining.

    I physically can't eat 2,000 calories a day, much less have that as a net right now because of the issues I discussed at the beginning of this thread. THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING FOR HELP HERE.

    Currently, because most doctors I've seen are not helpful, I'm probably gonna switch
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Not to be an *kitten*, but you are a person who should be trying to gain weight asking questions from (and hanging around people) who are trying to lose weight.

    The cognitive dissonance stems from the fact that three scrolls down your screen there is a weight gain forum where one would normally gravitate once they decide to gain weight.

    I'm on my phone right now; but, running your current numbers through a BMI calculator comes up with "go to your doctor now you are dangerously underweight". Hearing that you are having trouble eating, makes this more, not less worrisome.

    Why would you think that a weight loss forum is the right place for you to seek answers? Are you even supposed to be counting calories, for example? I don't know, and probably the vast majority of people here don't either. But I bet you that there do exist support forums populated by people who know and understand what you're experiencing.

    The short answer to your question is that to gain weight you have to eat ABOVE your TDEE. Consistently.

    Your BMR is an irrelevant distraction to you.

    About the only purpose it could possibly have for you is to serve as a calculation aid when it gets ****multiplied**** by an activity factor to help estimate the TDEE above which you should be eating.

    In other words there is no eating "around" your BMR of 1210.

    If you are relatively active in your daily life your BMR gets multiplied by 2.xx, and then you eat on top of that to gain weight.

    I would be extremely surprised if your doctors would not want you eating at well above 2,000Cal a day. I don't know and I am not sure (see where the right forum makes a difference) how fast and in what manner they would think you ought to get there. Have you asked them? Are you following their advice?

    I was trying to get help with it and the weight gain as I understood it was mainly for muscle gain and I'm sorry if I was mistaken. I am not dangerously underweight (the cutoff for that is 16.5 for BMI which I am still above at 17.2).

    I know that you have to be above the TDEE for weight gain, I was referencing for weight maintaining because I want to figure that out before going on to figure out gaining right now because I have been struggling with gaining.

    I physically can't eat 2,000 calories a day, much less have that as a net right now because of the issues I discussed at the beginning of this thread. THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING FOR HELP HERE.

    Currently, because most doctors I've seen are not helpful, I'm probably gonna switch

    I would definitely switch doctors or at least ask to see a specialist if your doctors haven't been able to help. Definitely mention the low BP and think about monitoring your blood glucose. With a lot of carbs and not enough protein and fat, your blood glucose could be all over the place. I get dizzy and nauseous when mine gets low. I bought a monitor for about $30 bucks, and now I check it at the first sign of lightheadedness.

    You also might be able to get your calories up higher with more fats, if you can tolerate them. A tablespoon of oil or 1/4 of an avocado has about the same number of calories as a piece of whole grain bread, and would be a lot less filling.
  • sk1nnyf0rm3
    sk1nnyf0rm3 Posts: 110 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Not to be an *kitten*, but you are a person who should be trying to gain weight asking questions from (and hanging around people) who are trying to lose weight.

    The cognitive dissonance stems from the fact that three scrolls down your screen there is a weight gain forum where one would normally gravitate once they decide to gain weight.

    I'm on my phone right now; but, running your current numbers through a BMI calculator comes up with "go to your doctor now you are dangerously underweight". Hearing that you are having trouble eating, makes this more, not less worrisome.

    Why would you think that a weight loss forum is the right place for you to seek answers? Are you even supposed to be counting calories, for example? I don't know, and probably the vast majority of people here don't either. But I bet you that there do exist support forums populated by people who know and understand what you're experiencing.

    The short answer to your question is that to gain weight you have to eat ABOVE your TDEE. Consistently.

    Your BMR is an irrelevant distraction to you.

    About the only purpose it could possibly have for you is to serve as a calculation aid when it gets ****multiplied**** by an activity factor to help estimate the TDEE above which you should be eating.

    In other words there is no eating "around" your BMR of 1210.

    If you are relatively active in your daily life your BMR gets multiplied by 2.xx, and then you eat on top of that to gain weight.

    I would be extremely surprised if your doctors would not want you eating at well above 2,000Cal a day. I don't know and I am not sure (see where the right forum makes a difference) how fast and in what manner they would think you ought to get there. Have you asked them? Are you following their advice?

    I was trying to get help with it and the weight gain as I understood it was mainly for muscle gain and I'm sorry if I was mistaken. I am not dangerously underweight (the cutoff for that is 16.5 for BMI which I am still above at 17.2).

    I know that you have to be above the TDEE for weight gain, I was referencing for weight maintaining because I want to figure that out before going on to figure out gaining right now because I have been struggling with gaining.

    I physically can't eat 2,000 calories a day, much less have that as a net right now because of the issues I discussed at the beginning of this thread. THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING FOR HELP HERE.

    Currently, because most doctors I've seen are not helpful, I'm probably gonna switch

    I would definitely switch doctors or at least ask to see a specialist if your doctors haven't been able to help. Definitely mention the low BP and think about monitoring your blood glucose. With a lot of carbs and not enough protein and fat, your blood glucose could be all over the place. I get dizzy and nauseous when mine gets low. I bought a monitor for about $30 bucks, and now I check it at the first sign of lightheadedness.

    You also might be able to get your calories up higher with more fats, if you can tolerate them. A tablespoon of oil or 1/4 of an avocado has about the same number of calories as a piece of whole grain bread, and would be a lot less filling.

    Ok. Thanks for the advice. I know about glucose readers (my mom has diabetes) but I thought you needed a prescription for them...but I'll look into that. Thanks!
  • angelexperiment
    angelexperiment Posts: 1,917 Member
    Maybe it is too much grain on your tummy that or low blood sugar if you go too long between meals. My husband has to have snacks around and eat at normal interval. As a vegetarian you need to incorporate lots more fruit veg and protein from veggies and soy. Tofu tempeh, beans, quinoa etc. Take b12 and a multi so you don't get a deficiency. Also take your pills not all together but spread through day with food to avoid tummy probs. Also could be constipation.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,303 Member
    Your actual TDEE at any point of time is your actual maintenance level.

    Bmr * activity level + eating back any calories not covered by the selected activity level ESTIMATES, hopefully correctly, your real TDEE.

    You cannot afford to be estimating low even if you truly believe you are out of immediate danger. The margins are just not there.

    When i quit smoking i didn't continue hanging around smokers

    Ask yourself why you think that a bunch of people losing weight (as opposed to a bunch of people gaining weight) are your natural peers at this point in your life.

    The reasons you may be experiencing tummy problems range from the physical, to the psychosomatic, to the psychological.

    Again, out of all the internet forums where you could find relevant help and advise... why are you choosing to hang out in one that is populated by people who have the exact opposite goal in their lives than you?

    I sincerely wish nothing but the best for you. That's why I have repeatedly tried to answer your questions. But when i hear about a person in your position trying to make an end run around the advice of their medical team/support group and hanging around people who have goals that are diametrically opposed to what their own should be, I can't help but wonder whether I am talking to a real person or the disease the real person has... I certainly hope that this is not the case with you and that you will pursue this both with a suitable doctor and by seeking help from groups that may be better able to help you out...
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