Social eating and counting cals
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lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Maybe it would benefit you to stop thinking of highly palatable foods as "crap."
That fruit pizza sure sounded like crap to me.
Why, because it's sweet? What's wrong with that?
Because it sounds like very little flavor other than sugar.
Maybe some people enjoy that? I know I do.
Not sure of your point. How would that make it not sound like crap to me? Have at it if it sounds good to you.
I thought you were implying that it must be bad for you by calling it crap. I think it was a misunderstanding. OP probably meant it that way, though.
I wouldn't say it's unhealthy in moderation for many people, but I certainly wouldn't call it health food either. It's a sugar bomb. Seems like a total waste of calories to me.0 -
everyone knows I workout at lunch...I attend these things a few times per year when it's actually a special occasion or holiday or something. I don't change my schedule and activity just because it's another rando Friday and people want to have a pot-luck. If anything, I just pop into these things to chat with some folks for awhile and then I'm on my way to do what I do.
I personally don't mind being labeled the office fitness nut...0 -
Go and eat reasonably. Set a limit of 1 plate of food. If you can take a second to see what's there before you start dishing it up, you'll know what you want. Then go back and decide if you want a big scoop or little scoop of anything.
Nothing is bad or Crap, in moderation. It can be crap if you over indulge and don't think that eating an over abundance of it will have an impact on your weight loss efforts. If you can accept where it falls within your calorie guidelines, then everything is fair game. (I'm preaching this to myself mostly, hoping it will be of some use to you)
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Maybe it would benefit you to stop thinking of highly palatable foods as "crap."
That fruit pizza sure sounded like crap to me.
Why, because it's sweet? What's wrong with that?
Because it sounds like very little flavor other than sugar.
Maybe some people enjoy that? I know I do.
Not sure of your point. How would that make it not sound like crap to me? Have at it if it sounds good to you.
I thought you were implying that it must be bad for you by calling it crap. I think it was a misunderstanding. OP probably meant it that way, though.
I wouldn't say it's unhealthy in moderation for many people, but I certainly wouldn't call it health food either. It's a sugar bomb. Seems like a total waste of calories to me.
Totally subjective.0 -
If you know it is coming, then budget for the stuff you like, like fruit pizza. Do a little more cardio that day. It will all even out. Personally I see no reason to be a martyr and sit in the corner with a celery stalk and a glass of water. Enjoy a taste of one or two things you like and skip the rest. Very few of us are going to spend the rest of our days denying ourselves the treats we love. So it makes sense to figure out how to incorporate it into our planning. I would actually ask the person for the recipe, put it in the recipe calculator and then you know what you're getting. Plus maybe you could play around with it and cut out some of the sugar and make a healthier version for yourself from time to time.0
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Boy, people are pretty hotly divided over the fruit pizza! Put me down for pro, though I'd prefer if it were made with low-fat cream cheese! A cookie, cream cheese, and fresh fruit? I say awesome
We have a grad party tomorrow. My plan is to choose 1) the foods in their simplest form (no mayonnaises, dressings, etc) and 2) an item that really sounds worth it, if there is one
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Maybe it would benefit you to stop thinking of highly palatable foods as "crap."
That fruit pizza sure sounded like crap to me.
Why, because it's sweet? What's wrong with that?
Because it sounds like very little flavor other than sugar.
Maybe some people enjoy that? I know I do.
Not sure of your point. How would that make it not sound like crap to me? Have at it if it sounds good to you.
I thought you were implying that it must be bad for you by calling it crap. I think it was a misunderstanding. OP probably meant it that way, though.
I wouldn't say it's unhealthy in moderation for many people, but I certainly wouldn't call it health food either. It's a sugar bomb. Seems like a total waste of calories to me.
haha, i didn't mean to start a debate. But I did use the term "crap" because it's a high calorie, sugary food (there's nothing wrong with that if you can fit it into your allotted calorie amount, i eat a little debbie almost every day!) but the purpose of these potlucks we have are to get people to try actual healthy foods and we've got that fruit pizza next to broccoli burgers and kale chips. There's always a rebel in the group.. But I appreciate everyone's input on how to handle these situations and typically, the food isn't worth me wasting the calories and having to re-plan my dinner. I'm faced with these situations at every turn it seems since I do have a large family that celebrates EVERYTHING and my friends always want to have lunch, dinner, drinks etc.0 -
Phoenix_Down wrote: »
Kale. Because gross.
Kale is fabulous, especially when you grow it yourself.
OP, nobody is MAKING you eat anything. It is always a choice.
You need to focus on the actual social aspect (people) and stop worrying about the food.0 -
Additional strategies:
1. Take a little bit of everything. Carry it around on your plate. Do not eat it.
2. Keep some sort of drink in your hand. Carry it around.
If it looks like you have food and drink, very few people will question what you are or are not doing with them. I worked for years at a job where I was required to go to cocktail receptions. I could not drink alcohol at the time for medical reasons. If I took a drink and carried it with me, nobody ever questioned what I was doing.0 -
Oh, so the definition of crap is purely based on the user's definition and use of it?
Of course it is. It's like asking someone what "clean" eating is. It's entirely arbitrary and up to the individual.Just because you don't want to make it fit into your day doesn't make it crap.
And that's not what I said.
I said it's crap because one teeny, unfulfilling slice that seriously tempts you to eating more is probably like 500 calories and is1/3rd of my daily allotment and ain't worth it to me.
When you only have 1570 calories a day to work with, you get real careful with what you want to blow calories on. A few mouthfuls of the cake in question wouldn't be worth it to me.
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It's a sugar bomb. Seems like a total waste of calories to me.
I agree. That's why I agree it's "crap". You eat this stuff all you're going is testing your willpower and blowing a huge chunk out of your daily calorie allotment for something that will leave you hungry in half an hour with hours to go until the next meal.0 -
But I appreciate everyone's input on how to handle these situations and typically, the food isn't worth me wasting the calories and having to re-plan my dinner.
Bingo. You can eat it, but it generally isn't worth it.0 -
maillemaker wrote: »Oh, so the definition of crap is purely based on the user's definition and use of it?
Of course it is. It's like asking someone what "clean" eating is. It's entirely arbitrary and up to the individual.Just because you don't want to make it fit into your day doesn't make it crap.
And that's not what I said.
I said it's crap because one teeny, unfulfilling slice that seriously tempts you to eating more is probably like 500 calories and is1/3rd of my daily allotment and ain't worth it to me.
When you only have 1570 calories a day to work with, you get real careful with what you want to blow calories on. A few mouthfuls of the cake in question wouldn't be worth it to me.
Right, you act like I've never been in a deficit before. I'm well aware you have to moderate and pick and choose what is/is not worth your time calories wise. Especially, if you're trying to make sound dietary decisions based on health but foods on their own don't dictate a persons health or well being. Their entire diet does. So, labeling something crap to me just seems silly. I also think the term "clean eating" is silly for the exact same reason.
I'm sure you'd agree a diet of all apples is no more healthy than a diet consisting of all pizza. Those two comparisons are strawman arguments at best because well...who eats nothing but one item of food?
So, sure. If it seems like a waste to you, by all means, don't eat it. But someone else indulging in said foods doesn't make the food crap or make their diet crap, on it's own.
I also managed to fit ice cream into my deficit when I was in weight loss. The fat and carbs filled in my macronutrient profile nicely. We all have our choices in this.
Sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say but I think it's important to not label foods as good or bad.
Anything to an extreme can be bad for you.0 -
Phoenix_Down wrote: »maillemaker wrote: »Why, because it's sweet? What's wrong with that?
No, it's "crap" because one teeny, unfulfilling slice that seriously tempts you to eating more is probably like 500 calories - 1/3rd of my daily allotment.
I'd skip it, too. It ain't worth it.
My company had Maggie Moos icecream truck visit yesterday. I just skipped it. I don't want to try to guesstimate how many calories are in what I would have been tempted to get nor did I have any room for it yesterday anyway (I went over going out to dinner as it was).
Oh, so the definition of crap is purely based on the user's definition and use of it?
I would have eaten the hell out of that Maggie Moos ice cream truck...that's right. Whole truck. Yolo.
Just because you don't want to make it fit into your day doesn't make it crap.
You know what's crap then?
Kale. Because gross.
Well, yeah. Unless we are actually talking feces, crap is just an opinion. This food is crap. That movie is crap. I hate this crap.0
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