Wheat, breads, grains and oats

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  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
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    I keep hearing different stories about them - that they're bad for you, even in whole wheat form or whole grain, but then I hear that that is bull**** and not to listen to those people who say it's bad for you and just to try and keep it in moderation and not overdo it. But I know we need good carbs to function and have long lasting energy, and you can make a healthy sandwich with lean cuts of meat or eggs, or other forms of healthy protein and fats. And the talk about hidden sugars and hidden calorie sugars in breads and grains and to multiply by 4 and that will give you the real number of what you're eating when you have bread and stuff. Something like that anyways....sorry..I suck at explaining things.

    I love having a nice tuna sandwich on whole wheat/grain bread with laughing cow cheese spreads....that's what I'm planning for today's lunch. I had that yesterday as well.....and I hate having bread too many times throughout the week, but there isn't anything else to have in the house right now and I am currently unable to go to the grocery store to pick up something I can have without bread. I have eggs and a real nice wild grain rice with nothing added into it called 7 grain medley, but have nothing else to go with it like veggies.

    Maybe a nice whole wheat English muffin with eggs and laughing cow since the English muffin is lower in carbs and stuff....What I was planning on was Country Harvest 100% whole grain Stone Milled wheat sandwich bread.

    They are bad for people who have intolerances to them and other medical reasons that require limiting them, otherwise they are perfectly fine. Whole grains aren't all they're cracked up to be though

    what's wrong with whole grains? I know it's a lot better than the white bleached options..lol

    Whole grains are 'better' than white bleached refined grains, but pretty much everything is. That doesn't necessarily make them 'healthy'.
  • recover_healthy_fit
    recover_healthy_fit Posts: 209 Member
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    I keep hearing different stories about them - that they're bad for you, even in whole wheat form or whole grain, but then I hear that that is bull**** and not to listen to those people who say it's bad for you and just to try and keep it in moderation and not overdo it. But I know we need good carbs to function and have long lasting energy, and you can make a healthy sandwich with lean cuts of meat or eggs, or other forms of healthy protein and fats. And the talk about hidden sugars and hidden calorie sugars in breads and grains and to multiply by 4 and that will give you the real number of what you're eating when you have bread and stuff. Something like that anyways....sorry..I suck at explaining things.

    I love having a nice tuna sandwich on whole wheat/grain bread with laughing cow cheese spreads....that's what I'm planning for today's lunch. I had that yesterday as well.....and I hate having bread too many times throughout the week, but there isn't anything else to have in the house right now and I am currently unable to go to the grocery store to pick up something I can have without bread. I have eggs and a real nice wild grain rice with nothing added into it called 7 grain medley, but have nothing else to go with it like veggies.

    Maybe a nice whole wheat English muffin with eggs and laughing cow since the English muffin is lower in carbs and stuff....What I was planning on was Country Harvest 100% whole grain Stone Milled wheat sandwich bread.

    They are bad for people who have intolerances to them and other medical reasons that require limiting them, otherwise they are perfectly fine. Whole grains aren't all they're cracked up to be though

    what's wrong with whole grains? I know it's a lot better than the white bleached options..lol

    Whole grains are 'better' than white bleached refined grains, but pretty much everything is. That doesn't necessarily make them 'healthy'.

    What's so unhealthy about them then?
  • recover_healthy_fit
    recover_healthy_fit Posts: 209 Member
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    When anyone attempts to demonize some food or food group or macro-nutrient...that's when I know they're full of ****. I eat oatmeal 5 out of 7 mornings, I eat a sammich 3-4 times per week, I eat white flour tortillas at least once per week (I like ****ing burritos), I eat rice, I eat barley (beef and barley soup rocks) and I'm just fine. I'm about 40 Lbs down from where I started and have gone from very, very, very bad blood work...pre-diabetic, triglycerides through the roof, high LDL, low HDL, etc to being perfectly normal...all while eating grains and ****.

    Just get your nutrition on, then get your fitness on...it's all about good livin' If you don't have an allergy or other medical condition, I wouldn't put a whole lot of worry into it.

    lol I enjoyed reading that. Thank you :)

    It's a choice not to eat much white things like potatoes or rice, but if I have to, it's not much of it. I mostly eat whole wheat/grain and wild grain rice when I feel like having some rice. And I don't...it's more for fat loss and someone who has been calorie restricting for quite some time.... =/
  • recover_healthy_fit
    recover_healthy_fit Posts: 209 Member
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    I keep hearing different stories about them - that they're bad for you, even in whole wheat form or whole grain, but then I hear that that is bull**** and not to listen to those people who say it's bad for you and just to try and keep it in moderation and not overdo it. But I know we need good carbs to function and have long lasting energy, and you can make a healthy sandwich with lean cuts of meat or eggs, or other forms of healthy protein and fats. And the talk about hidden sugars and hidden calorie sugars in breads and grains and to multiply by 4 and that will give you the real number of what you're eating when you have bread and stuff. Something like that anyways....sorry..I suck at explaining things.

    I love having a nice tuna sandwich on whole wheat/grain bread with laughing cow cheese spreads....that's what I'm planning for today's lunch. I had that yesterday as well.....and I hate having bread too many times throughout the week, but there isn't anything else to have in the house right now and I am currently unable to go to the grocery store to pick up something I can have without bread. I have eggs and a real nice wild grain rice with nothing added into it called 7 grain medley, but have nothing else to go with it like veggies.

    Maybe a nice whole wheat English muffin with eggs and laughing cow since the English muffin is lower in carbs and stuff....What I was planning on was Country Harvest 100% whole grain Stone Milled wheat sandwich bread.

    They are bad for people who have intolerances to them and other medical reasons that require limiting them, otherwise they are perfectly fine. Whole grains aren't all they're cracked up to be though

    what's wrong with whole grains? I know it's a lot better than the white bleached options..lol

    That it's questionable if they actually are "a lot better" than refined grains

    I believe they are better, but maybe not "a lot" better. But it is a better choice if you really want a sandwich or rice as a side dish.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    I keep hearing different stories about them - that they're bad for you, even in whole wheat form or whole grain, but then I hear that that is bull**** and not to listen to those people who say it's bad for you and just to try and keep it in moderation and not overdo it. But I know we need good carbs to function and have long lasting energy, and you can make a healthy sandwich with lean cuts of meat or eggs, or other forms of healthy protein and fats. And the talk about hidden sugars and hidden calorie sugars in breads and grains and to multiply by 4 and that will give you the real number of what you're eating when you have bread and stuff. Something like that anyways....sorry..I suck at explaining things.

    I love having a nice tuna sandwich on whole wheat/grain bread with laughing cow cheese spreads....that's what I'm planning for today's lunch. I had that yesterday as well.....and I hate having bread too many times throughout the week, but there isn't anything else to have in the house right now and I am currently unable to go to the grocery store to pick up something I can have without bread. I have eggs and a real nice wild grain rice with nothing added into it called 7 grain medley, but have nothing else to go with it like veggies.

    Maybe a nice whole wheat English muffin with eggs and laughing cow since the English muffin is lower in carbs and stuff....What I was planning on was Country Harvest 100% whole grain Stone Milled wheat sandwich bread.

    They are bad for people who have intolerances to them and other medical reasons that require limiting them, otherwise they are perfectly fine. Whole grains aren't all they're cracked up to be though

    what's wrong with whole grains? I know it's a lot better than the white bleached options..lol

    That it's questionable if they actually are "a lot better" than refined grains

    I believe they are better, but maybe not "a lot" better. But it is a better choice if you really want a sandwich or rice as a side dish.

    Depends, look up how the anti nutrients in them effect mineral absorption and compare that to refined grains
  • Almondsansgrapes
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    Grains and breads are good for you, they have good source of protein, but you don't want to eat to much, if your going to have bread in every meal, you don't want it in every meal everyday for the entire week , choose around 2 days of the week when you eat 2 meals without grain or wheat. Give your body a break, let it experience new foods, if you like this diet, stick to it, if you feel uncomfortable with it, go back to you regular diet.
  • recover_healthy_fit
    recover_healthy_fit Posts: 209 Member
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    I keep hearing different stories about them - that they're bad for you, even in whole wheat form or whole grain, but then I hear that that is bull**** and not to listen to those people who say it's bad for you and just to try and keep it in moderation and not overdo it. But I know we need good carbs to function and have long lasting energy, and you can make a healthy sandwich with lean cuts of meat or eggs, or other forms of healthy protein and fats. And the talk about hidden sugars and hidden calorie sugars in breads and grains and to multiply by 4 and that will give you the real number of what you're eating when you have bread and stuff. Something like that anyways....sorry..I suck at explaining things.

    I love having a nice tuna sandwich on whole wheat/grain bread with laughing cow cheese spreads....that's what I'm planning for today's lunch. I had that yesterday as well.....and I hate having bread too many times throughout the week, but there isn't anything else to have in the house right now and I am currently unable to go to the grocery store to pick up something I can have without bread. I have eggs and a real nice wild grain rice with nothing added into it called 7 grain medley, but have nothing else to go with it like veggies.

    Maybe a nice whole wheat English muffin with eggs and laughing cow since the English muffin is lower in carbs and stuff....What I was planning on was Country Harvest 100% whole grain Stone Milled wheat sandwich bread.

    They are bad for people who have intolerances to them and other medical reasons that require limiting them, otherwise they are perfectly fine. Whole grains aren't all they're cracked up to be though

    what's wrong with whole grains? I know it's a lot better than the white bleached options..lol

    That it's questionable if they actually are "a lot better" than refined grains

    I believe they are better, but maybe not "a lot" better. But it is a better choice if you really want a sandwich or rice as a side dish.

    Depends, look up how the anti nutrients in them effect mineral absorption and compare that to refined grains

    I found this.....

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/#comment-954073
  • momzeeee
    momzeeee Posts: 475 Member
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    I keep hearing different stories about them - that they're bad for you, even in whole wheat form or whole grain, but then I hear that that is bull**** and not to listen to those people who say it's bad for you and just to try and keep it in moderation and not overdo it. But I know we need good carbs to function and have long lasting energy, and you can make a healthy sandwich with lean cuts of meat or eggs, or other forms of healthy protein and fats. And the talk about hidden sugars and hidden calorie sugars in breads and grains and to multiply by 4 and that will give you the real number of what you're eating when you have bread and stuff. Something like that anyways....sorry..I suck at explaining things.

    I love having a nice tuna sandwich on whole wheat/grain bread with laughing cow cheese spreads....that's what I'm planning for today's lunch. I had that yesterday as well.....and I hate having bread too many times throughout the week, but there isn't anything else to have in the house right now and I am currently unable to go to the grocery store to pick up something I can have without bread. I have eggs and a real nice wild grain rice with nothing added into it called 7 grain medley, but have nothing else to go with it like veggies.

    Maybe a nice whole wheat English muffin with eggs and laughing cow since the English muffin is lower in carbs and stuff....What I was planning on was Country Harvest 100% whole grain Stone Milled wheat sandwich bread.

    They are bad for people who have intolerances to them and other medical reasons that require limiting them, otherwise they are perfectly fine. Whole grains aren't all they're cracked up to be though

    what's wrong with whole grains? I know it's a lot better than the white bleached options..lol

    That it's questionable if they actually are "a lot better" than refined grains

    I believe they are better, but maybe not "a lot" better. But it is a better choice if you really want a sandwich or rice as a side dish.

    Depends, look up how the anti nutrients in them effect mineral absorption and compare that to refined grains

    I've read a few times in different articles that brown rice is worse than white rice-I'll see if I can find some info on this and post a link.
  • recover_healthy_fit
    recover_healthy_fit Posts: 209 Member
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    I keep hearing different stories about them - that they're bad for you, even in whole wheat form or whole grain, but then I hear that that is bull**** and not to listen to those people who say it's bad for you and just to try and keep it in moderation and not overdo it. But I know we need good carbs to function and have long lasting energy, and you can make a healthy sandwich with lean cuts of meat or eggs, or other forms of healthy protein and fats. And the talk about hidden sugars and hidden calorie sugars in breads and grains and to multiply by 4 and that will give you the real number of what you're eating when you have bread and stuff. Something like that anyways....sorry..I suck at explaining things.

    I love having a nice tuna sandwich on whole wheat/grain bread with laughing cow cheese spreads....that's what I'm planning for today's lunch. I had that yesterday as well.....and I hate having bread too many times throughout the week, but there isn't anything else to have in the house right now and I am currently unable to go to the grocery store to pick up something I can have without bread. I have eggs and a real nice wild grain rice with nothing added into it called 7 grain medley, but have nothing else to go with it like veggies.

    Maybe a nice whole wheat English muffin with eggs and laughing cow since the English muffin is lower in carbs and stuff....What I was planning on was Country Harvest 100% whole grain Stone Milled wheat sandwich bread.

    They are bad for people who have intolerances to them and other medical reasons that require limiting them, otherwise they are perfectly fine. Whole grains aren't all they're cracked up to be though

    what's wrong with whole grains? I know it's a lot better than the white bleached options..lol

    That it's questionable if they actually are "a lot better" than refined grains

    I believe they are better, but maybe not "a lot" better. But it is a better choice if you really want a sandwich or rice as a side dish.

    Depends, look up how the anti nutrients in them effect mineral absorption and compare that to refined grains

    I've read a few times in different articles that brown rice is worse than white rice-I'll see if I can find some info on this and post a link.

    Seriously? How can that be? = /