Burning fat using "cool" technology?
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There is actually some science behind it, but they have a way to go before applying it for weight loss strategies. Berkeley has done a study on it in mice - http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2015/01/08/energy-burning-brown-fat-protein/ and several other studies have confirmed its potential. I suspect that there is just enough behind it to allow the snake-oil salesmen to profit, but right now it is still in research stages. Diet and exercise are still the best!
Agreed. I'm not looking for a way to look "fit", but still be able to eat a Digiorno a day accompanied with a quarter fifth of scotch.
But if I could burn the lower stomach fat off, without incision, I would probably do it. This area won't come off unless I get down to like 8% body fat, and even then it's still kinda there.
I'd rather the scientists of the world spend their time searching for a cure for cancer, or plan for life after the natural sources of anti-biotics run out, though.0 -
That's cryogenics, but my dad has asked me how long until I become demolition man.I use cryotherapy to aid in recovery after long runs and to manage swelling and inflammation. In the past few weeks, I have noticed that the waiting room is FILLED with women using the therapy sessions to lose weight. There must have been an article or television show that hyped weight loss because my center does not advertise any weight loss effect.
However, I have noticed some incidental weight loss. I can easily add an extra run the day after my cryo session -a run I would have been incapable of completing otherwise. But that still requires eating right and exercising...and cryotherapy is a very expensive way to lose an extra pound a month.
isn't cryotherapy when they freeze dead people to revive them at a later date? I am thinking Sylvestor Stalone in demolition man...LOL0 -
As of now, it's a sales pitch. While there are studies showing that fat can be reduced by being colder, the studies show an OVERALL body coldness and not just spot checked areas.
How much does this cost right now? Anyone?
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As of now, it's a sales pitch. While there are studies showing that fat can be reduced by being colder, the studies show an OVERALL body coldness and not just spot checked areas.
How much does this cost right now? Anyone?
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That's not what they're doing. They're using a low level laser to physically break apart fat cells. They just don't remove the cellular debris, so there's no incision. It works, but it's for sculpting the adipose layer, not really for weight loss though plenty will market it for that just like they do liposuction.
Relevant study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20393809
A semi-recent review of additional studies: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23749426
As far as cost, here's what a quick Google search turned up:
50% off Laser Liposuction - americanlipocenters.com
$850 per area; Experienced Surgeons See our great Before and Afters
Given the published results on obese patients showed centimeters of difference, I say it's a good way to throw away your money for a result no one is going to notice.
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Ah. I'll look into it more. I've seen laser surgery done to help reduce fat cells, but again it was more for people who had money and were dealing with stubborn areas that didn't reduce anymore with regular diet and exercise.As of now, it's a sales pitch. While there are studies showing that fat can be reduced by being colder, the studies show an OVERALL body coldness and not just spot checked areas.
How much does this cost right now? Anyone?
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That's not what they're doing. They're using a low level laser to physically break apart fat cells. They just don't remove the cellular debris, so there's no incision. It works, but it's for sculpting the adipose layer, not really for weight loss though plenty will market it for that just like they do liposuction.
Relevant study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20393809
A semi-recent review of additional studies: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23749426
As far as cost, here's what a quick Google search turned up:
50% off Laser Liposuction - americanlipocenters.com
$850 per area; Experienced Surgeons See our great Before and Afters
Given the published results on obese patients showed centimeters of difference, I say it's a good way to throw away your money for a result no one is going to notice.
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No Vanilla Ice references yet? Disappointed...0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »drewlamonte wrote: »Ha, yeah, I know. I just wanted to see if anyone has actually done it. It's amusing at least.
I might try in 5 years if it's still around. If it's a joke, it will probably be gone by then...
http://www.coolsculpting.com/
Enjoy if you haven't already.
That is actually pretty interesting. Sounds like a non-surgical alternative to liposuction.
My husband did this through a reputable plastic surgeon in our area. It's very popular. If I remember correctly, the office was having trouble keeping up with demand and he had to wait a few weeks to get in.
My husband has had a couple abdominal surgeries. There is a scar down the middle of his abdomen with a pocket of fat on each side. It really bothered him and he wasn't able to get rid of it through his diet and exercise habits.
He did the cool sculpting first trying to avoid a surgical procedure. He didn't see the results he wanted and ended up going back for lipo last week. His abdomen is bruised and swollen currently, but it seems like he finally is going to end up with the results he wanted.
I'm not staking out a position on the cool sculpting procedure, but yes, someone has in fact actually done this...
ETA: He is 6' tall, 155 lbs, muscular build, strength trains approx. 5 days a week0 -
Cost of cool sculpting was maybe $1000? I don't remember exactly.
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Google "cold showers brown fat". You will find that studies show that cold showers are supposed to help burn brown fat.
BUT I certainly wouldn't rely on cold showers for weight loss.
Eat healthy. Exercise.0 -
The amount burned is negligible. You'd have to be in really cold water and shivering for quite awhile to have any significant result.hmrambling wrote: »Google "cold showers brown fat". You will find that studies show that cold showers are supposed to help burn brown fat.
BUT I certainly wouldn't rely on cold showers for weight loss.
Eat healthy. Exercise.
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Meh, I'd give it a shot if it were free. The show I saw said it literally freezes the fat and kills the fat cells. Then over a period of 6 months your body "takes care" of the dead fat cells. Definitely not a weight loss solution, but I suppose it could be used to spot reduce.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »pollypocket1021 wrote: »drewlamonte wrote: »If it works...so give it a go and let us know?
I might hang out in the whole foods beer room 30 minutes a day in the mean time.
It works, but it can cause permanent nerve damage. You can only reduce a spot about the size of a stick of butter. So if it is effective, it can leave you with divots and ridges.
You can only freeze a spot the size of a stick of butter? You mean ever, or only something that size per session, or what?
The device they use is roughly that size, probably a little bigger. They place it on the area, leave it on for awhile and then can move to additional areas. The patient could do their whole midsection, for example, if they have enough time and money available.
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fallenoaks4 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »pollypocket1021 wrote: »drewlamonte wrote: »If it works...so give it a go and let us know?
I might hang out in the whole foods beer room 30 minutes a day in the mean time.
It works, but it can cause permanent nerve damage. You can only reduce a spot about the size of a stick of butter. So if it is effective, it can leave you with divots and ridges.
You can only freeze a spot the size of a stick of butter? You mean ever, or only something that size per session, or what?
The device they use is roughly that size, probably a little bigger. They place it on the area, leave it on for awhile and then can move to additional areas. The patient could do their whole midsection, for example, if they have enough time and money available.
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drewlamonte wrote: »Has anyone actually tried this? There are things online and "doctors" coming out with services where they using cooling technology to basically melt fat off.
Just curious if anyone has actually tried this.
Oh for goodness sake, don't tell me you feel for this!
Seriously, it's a scam to take money out of your pocket.0 -
drewlamonte wrote: »Has anyone actually tried this? There are things online and "doctors" coming out with services where they using cooling technology to basically melt fat off.
Just curious if anyone has actually tried this.
Oh for goodness sake, don't tell me you feel for this!
Seriously, it's a scam to take money out of your pocket.
Yeah. I have a feeling it's one of those things where they get you all excited, then you get no results. Like diet pills.
For the record, no, the percentage of me leaning towards doing this is about 10%. Would need a LOT more use cases for me to actually but in to something like this.0 -
fallenoaks4 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »pollypocket1021 wrote: »drewlamonte wrote: »If it works...so give it a go and let us know?
I might hang out in the whole foods beer room 30 minutes a day in the mean time.
It works, but it can cause permanent nerve damage. You can only reduce a spot about the size of a stick of butter. So if it is effective, it can leave you with divots and ridges.
You can only freeze a spot the size of a stick of butter? You mean ever, or only something that size per session, or what?
The device they use is roughly that size, probably a little bigger. They place it on the area, leave it on for awhile and then can move to additional areas. The patient could do their whole midsection, for example, if they have enough time and money available.
"A while" = hours. It is marketed to be a one time treatment, and like I said, it works, but with one treatment, the results are usually underwhelming.0 -
Is this like the Dr. Oz and Dr. Mercola cold bath recommendation (and I use the term "Dr." loosely here...)?0
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »Is this like the Dr. Oz and Dr. Mercola cold bath recommendation (and I use the term "Dr." loosely here...)?
No. A machine attaches to the body and suctions in the area of concern (about the size of a stick of butter). Then, it cools the cells for hours to kill them.
The overall body temperature stays the same and there is no anticipated change in weight or overall body fat %.0 -
pollypocket1021 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »Is this like the Dr. Oz and Dr. Mercola cold bath recommendation (and I use the term "Dr." loosely here...)?
No. A machine attaches to the body and suctions in the area of concern (about the size of a stick of butter). Then, it cools the cells for hours to kill them.
The overall body temperature stays the same and there is no anticipated change in weight or overall body fat %.
So you're giving your fat cells frostbite? Then what happens? Would your skin suffer also? And wouldn't the fat cells then become gangrenous or something? I mean, what happens to them after they die?0 -
Cells die all the time.
I don't have that device, or any personal experience with it. I have a different device that does a similar thing. Sometimes there are areas of fat necrosis that are hard to the touch and tender. They can take up to a year to go away if they are really big. But usually, the cellular debris is just absorbed by the body.
With regard to skin, I have seen patients from another office with coolsculpting afterwards (generally months to years after their treatment) and no one has ever complained of skin issues. The subcutaneous fatty tissue does have superficial nerves running through it which can be effected. Nerve damage is the major side effect I see.0 -
drewlamonte wrote: »Has anyone actually tried this? There are things online and "doctors" coming out with services where they using cooling technology to basically melt fat off.
Just curious if anyone has actually tried this.
Don't things have to get hot to melt? Hot being relative to things that are not hot.0
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