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  • Gianfranco_R
    Gianfranco_R Posts: 1,297 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »

    Recomp is about gaining muscle and losing fat (not weight) whilst essentially eating at maintenance. Other than in a few exceptions (see Rabbit's post), you won't gain muscle whilst losing weight and eating at a deficit.

    Also, since when do weeks have 8 days in them?

    Ah, I see: so you're saying losing fat whilst gaining muscle is possible, but the person won't actually be dropping scale pounds at the same time.

    Apart from the exceptions Rabbit noted.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    (Only in Beatles songs.)

    I think possible under certain circumstances (that's my understanding from the second link). Painfully, painfully slow (as in, you're better off doing bulk/cut cycles). I'm a little shaky in this area beyond 'you can't build muscle eating at a deficit', but trying to up skill since I plan to build muscle once I'm at goal and want to know the best way to go about it (read: can I do this without going anywhere near a gym??).

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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »

    Recomp is about gaining muscle and losing fat (not weight) whilst essentially eating at maintenance. Other than in a few exceptions (see Rabbit's post), you won't gain muscle whilst losing weight and eating at a deficit.

    Also, since when do weeks have 8 days in them?

    Ah, I see: so you're saying losing fat whilst gaining muscle is possible, but the person won't actually be dropping scale pounds at the same time.

    Apart from the exceptions Rabbit noted.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    (Only in Beatles songs.)

    I think possible under certain circumstances (that's my understanding from the second link). Painfully, painfully slow (as in, you're better off doing bulk/cut cycles). I'm a little shaky in this area beyond 'you can't build muscle eating at a deficit', but trying to up skill since I plan to build muscle once I'm at goal and want to know the best way to go about it (read: can I do this without going anywhere near a gym??).

    Here Nony .. but start now

    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/12/09/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/

  • Chrysalid2014
    Chrysalid2014 Posts: 1,038 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »

    I think possible under certain circumstances (that's my understanding from the second link). Painfully, painfully slow (as in, you're better off doing bulk/cut cycles). I'm a little shaky in this area beyond 'you can't build muscle eating at a deficit', but trying to up skill since I plan to build muscle once I'm at goal and want to know the best way to go about it (read: can I do this without going anywhere near a gym??).

    Funnily enough that was one of the first questions I asked when I started here. Someone directed me to this:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/fourfiftythree/view/calisthenics-roadmap-a-list-of-resources-to-get-started-with-bodyweight-strength-training-694338
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    Gianfranco_R wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »

    Recomp is about gaining muscle and losing fat (not weight) whilst essentially eating at maintenance. Other than in a few exceptions (see Rabbit's post), you won't gain muscle whilst losing weight and eating at a deficit.

    Also, since when do weeks have 8 days in them?

    Ah, I see: so you're saying losing fat whilst gaining muscle is possible, but the person won't actually be dropping scale pounds at the same time.

    Apart from the exceptions Rabbit noted.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    (Only in Beatles songs.)

    I think possible under certain circumstances (that's my understanding from the second link). Painfully, painfully slow (as in, you're better off doing bulk/cut cycles). I'm a little shaky in this area beyond 'you can't build muscle eating at a deficit', but trying to up skill since I plan to build muscle once I'm at goal and want to know the best way to go about it (read: can I do this without going anywhere near a gym??).

    bodyweight
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »

    Recomp is about gaining muscle and losing fat (not weight) whilst essentially eating at maintenance. Other than in a few exceptions (see Rabbit's post), you won't gain muscle whilst losing weight and eating at a deficit.

    Also, since when do weeks have 8 days in them?

    Ah, I see: so you're saying losing fat whilst gaining muscle is possible, but the person won't actually be dropping scale pounds at the same time.

    Apart from the exceptions Rabbit noted.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    (Only in Beatles songs.)

    I think possible under certain circumstances (that's my understanding from the second link). Painfully, painfully slow (as in, you're better off doing bulk/cut cycles). I'm a little shaky in this area beyond 'you can't build muscle eating at a deficit', but trying to up skill since I plan to build muscle once I'm at goal and want to know the best way to go about it (read: can I do this without going anywhere near a gym??).

    Here Nony .. but start now

    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/12/09/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/

    Yus!!! This is exactly the answer I was hoping for!

    (I do some body weight stuff with yoga, but probably not enough)

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  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    Sun Salutations with chataranga are a great body weight upper body and core workout. I've overdone it from time to time and my triceps and chest complained for days.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
    To everyone saying you can't build muscle and lose weight at the same time. Is this piece incorrect then?
    http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/the-basics-of-body-recomposition-how-to-lose-fat-gain-muscle-at-the-same-time/

    LOL, did you actually read the article? If you did, you clearly didn't understand it.

    Yep, what's not to understand? But as I guess you didn't here's a summary for you:

    1. Figure out your maintenance caloric intake.
    2. Do intense weight training 3 x per week. Eat at 15% above your maintenance by adding extra carbs on those days.
    3. The other 5 days, eat at 10% below maintenance.

    Hey presto!

    Recomp is about gaining muscle and losing fat (not weight) whilst essentially eating at maintenance. Other than in a few exceptions (see Rabbit's post), you won't gain muscle whilst losing weight and eating at a deficit.

    Also, since when do weeks have 8 days in them?

    And this is definitely not something that happens on accident as so many people seem to think.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    One thing to note as well. When you are eating at a deficit and lifting weights or even cycling as one person mentioned, the muscles you already have do become harder when you begin using them. That can make some think they are gaining muscle mass as well.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    One thing to note as well. When you are eating at a deficit and lifting weights or even cycling as one person mentioned, the muscles you already have do become harder when you begin using them. That can make some think they are gaining muscle mass as well.

    I didn't know this. Why do they become harder?
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    One thing to note as well. When you are eating at a deficit and lifting weights or even cycling as one person mentioned, the muscles you already have do become harder when you begin using them. That can make some think they are gaining muscle mass as well.

    I didn't know this. Why do they become harder?


    I have no idea, just from using them? Like when you get a good "pump". That's all I meant.
  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    One thing to note as well. When you are eating at a deficit and lifting weights or even cycling as one person mentioned, the muscles you already have do become harder when you begin using them. That can make some think they are gaining muscle mass as well.

    I didn't know this. Why do they become harder?

    When you lose about a thousand pounds or so.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    atypicalsmith wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    One thing to note as well. When you are eating at a deficit and lifting weights or even cycling as one person mentioned, the muscles you already have do become harder when you begin using them. That can make some think they are gaining muscle mass as well.

    I didn't know this. Why do they become harder?

    When you lose about a thousand pounds or so.

    What?
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    One thing to note as well. When you are eating at a deficit and lifting weights or even cycling as one person mentioned, the muscles you already have do become harder when you begin using them. That can make some think they are gaining muscle mass as well.

    I didn't know this. Why do they become harder?


    I have no idea, just from using them? Like when you get a good "pump". That's all I meant.

    Oh right. I love the pump.
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Sun Salutations with chataranga are a great body weight upper body and core workout. I've overdone it from time to time and my triceps and chest complained for days.

    Yup, yoga is the bomb. I am way stronger now than I was a few months ago. All yoga. Like, I started a plank challenge at the beginning of the month, and could already hold for 63 seconds (75 or something in extended arm plank, cos that's what I'm used to with yoga). Up to over 2 mins now.

    I'm going to chuck the Nerd Fitness workout into the mix too though, because I definitely need to be working my butt and thighs more. I also remember now why I'd been meaning to save a milk container!
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,811 Member
    edited May 2015
    I used to be a bodybuilder and have always put muscle on quite quickly.

    Right now ... all I know is that I started 15 kg over the weight I wanted to be, I'm dropping 1 kg/week, and I'm developing some good muscle definition.
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  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,811 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    I used to be a bodybuilder and have always put muscle on quite quickly.

    Right now ... all I know is that I started 15 kg over the weight I wanted to be, I'm dropping 1 kg/week, and I'm developing some good muscle definition.

    If you used to be a bodybuilder then you obviously wouldn't fall into the noob gains. What your seeing is an optical illusion. Losing fat and retaining glycogen

    Well the bodybuilding was a while ago. But I've maintained decent muscle tone until about a year or two ago, when I kind of let myself go a bit. Just in the last few months, I've increased my cycling and walking (both with a lot of hill climbing) and stair climbing.

    Just the other day I noticed that my legs are starting to show some real definition again.

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