Turning off the lights during office hours?
The finance director and I seem to be having a light war at work lately. We are a non profit that serves meals to the elderly and home bound. We often have elderly clients coming in and out of the office not to mention the staff. The finance director keeps turning off the lights in the kitchen, hallways, and common areas during office hours (she is a PITA most of the time anyway). I keep turning them on... she turns them off. I am really getting annoyed. I sent an email to the Executive Director who is out of town at a conference. These are programs funded by the Federal Gov. and I'm pretty sure we can afford to keep the lights on.
Is this breaking any kind of law by the way?? Seems like the lights on during normal hours of operation. Especially when you work with the elderly!!
Is this breaking any kind of law by the way?? Seems like the lights on during normal hours of operation. Especially when you work with the elderly!!
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Are the elderly going IN to those rooms?
Are the elderly incapable of turning on lights?
Do you think that just because you're "Federally Funded" that the money just appears out of no where?
I agree with your boss. Turn them off. It's appropriate fiscally, for the environment, and for tax payers. If you think it's a danger for your clients, then maybe you should petition to have motion sensors installed.0 -
We have motion sensors here and while most of the building is off the two weeks surrounding Christmas and New Years, my team is still here.
I love walking up and down the hall to have the lights come on as I approach. Makes me feel like Darth Vader.0 -
I am not talking about rooms or offices. I am talking about the main hallways and common areas so yes staff and clients use them. I know that Federally Funded doesn't mean the money appears from nowhere. I am the one who processes all of our donations as well. I mentioned the Federally funded partly because that comes with a lot of rules. She isn't my boss. If you were to walk into an insurance office, Dr. office, or Senior center and the hall lights were out wouldn't you find that odd and inappropriate?0
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We have motion sensors here and while most of the building is off the two weeks surrounding Christmas and New Years, my team is still here.
I love walking up and down the hall to have the lights come on as I approach. Makes me feel like Darth Vader.
LOL thats what we have. When I am in my office, I usually turn my light off anyway. I have a window and the computer gives enough light for me.0 -
In some jurisdictions, it could be considered a hazard to keep the lights off. Who wants to work in the dark? Keep turning them on and good luck.0
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We have motion sensors here and while most of the building is off the two weeks surrounding Christmas and New Years, my team is still here.
I love walking up and down the hall to have the lights come on as I approach. Makes me feel like Darth Vader.
giggle that would be nice. The building is house that has been turned into an office building. Not sure they would install the motion sensors. It's a great idea though. I shall suggest it~0 -
Wouldn't the DONATIONS be better appropriated towards helping the homeless then having the lights on in places that aren't necessary. Don't be shocked that if they can't cut the cost of electricity, that other things get cut..............like employees. It happens.
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Wouldn't the DONATIONS be better appropriated towards helping the homeless then having the lights on in places that aren't necessary. Don't be shocked that if they can't cut the cost of electricity, that other things get cut..............like employees. It happens.
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Oh my goodness. We have budgets and such to make sure we can keep the lights on. That is my point. We are NOT short for money so why does she keep turning them off when it is a hazard to clients and staff. My point is that the lights are in places THAT ARE NECESSARY. She also keeps the air conditioner at like 69 degrees when it's 105 outside. SO if for some reason we ARE short for money (which we ARE NOT) and need to cut back somewhere then we would turn up one of the 5 air conditioners to a sensible 73-75 degrees. Do we want a lawsuit and to lose our grants and such when someone falls and sues us. No.0 -
Lol, then why aren't you the finance director?Wouldn't the DONATIONS be better appropriated towards helping the homeless then having the lights on in places that aren't necessary. Don't be shocked that if they can't cut the cost of electricity, that other things get cut..............like employees. It happens.
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Oh my goodness. We have budgets and such to make sure we can keep the lights on. That is my point. We are NOT short for money so why does she keep turning them off when it is a hazard to clients and staff. My point is that the lights are in places THAT ARE NECESSARY. She also keeps the air conditioner at like 69 degrees when it's 105 outside. SO if for some reason we ARE short for money (which we ARE NOT) and need to cut back somewhere then we would turn up one of the 5 air conditioners to a sensible 73-75 degrees. Do we want a lawsuit and to lose our grants and such when someone falls and sues us. No.
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The finance director and I seem to be having a light war at work lately. We are a non profit that serves meals to the elderly and home bound. We often have elderly clients coming in and out of the office not to mention the staff. The finance director keeps turning off the lights in the kitchen, hallways, and common areas during office hours (she is a PITA most of the time anyway). I keep turning them on... she turns them off. I am really getting annoyed. I sent an email to the Executive Director who is out of town at a conference. These are programs funded by the Federal Gov. and I'm pretty sure we can afford to keep the lights on.
Is this breaking any kind of law by the way?? Seems like the lights on during normal hours of operation. Especially when you work with the elderly!!
Many green buildings have motion sensors in areas like conference rooms, offices, kitchen(ettes), and bathrooms (and sometimes offices). As no one is permanently located in these areas I think this is pretty acceptable (I used to work in a 45 story building with a little over 100 employees per floor . . . if you spent too much time in the bathroom deucing you finished in the dark). I don't really see where you have an issue. Hallways, on the other hand, and employee work spaces should be lit.0 -
Yea the post said hallways and common areas (the waiting area) like the entry way0
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As I am literate, I realize this, that's why I directly pointed that out seperately.0
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Let me guess, you still ive at home and the parents pay the bills.0
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Let me guess, you still ive at home and the parents pay the bills.
Umm no. I am 28 years old and married. I have paid my own bills since I was 17 actually. Wow.0 -
Try to find a compromise. If the FD is worried about the cost then come up with a solution that can save money but keep the lights on. Motion sensors, lower watt bulbs, partial lights (instead of 4 bulbs use 2).0
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I agree...
Anyone with Finance in their title is charged with ensuring that money is being spent wisely. That's their job and it's actually good to hear that they are sticking to it. With that said, there are times when going without to save money can cripple a company or organization because those people with Finance in their title don't see the full picture.
You need to paint the full picture for your Finance Director and your Executive Director, powerpoint, facts, and numbers are a very powerful tool.
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