My mom Does not belive that a calorie deficit is for weight loss and carbs only make you fat
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oh no! don't show her THAT! she'll jump on the "zero calorie diet sodas make you FAT" train! lolaisforamyaz wrote: »The mayo clinic is pretty official, I think:
http://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/its-complicated-calories-and-other-factors-affect-weight-loss/
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My mom technically believes in CICO but, refuses to do it because it is too hard and takes too long. She tried it not even 2 days and stopped. She thinks as long as she eats what appears to be happy she will lose weight. Since February I have lost 33 lbs and she has gained about 5. I let her believe what she wants and let my results speak for themselves.0
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Ask her how she thinks the human body can create energy out of nothing. If it could it would be the single biggest discovery in the history of humankind. It could solve our energy problems, end world hunger and many wars.megablackk1d wrote: »My mom still believes that a calorie deficit is not the way to weight loss, and believes carbs are the only reason for gaining weight.. She claimed that at one point she tried the "Calorie Deficit" with carbs and still gained, but she never ways her food or does not even know her total daily energy expenditure, and was eating more than she thought she was. Can anyone link me to a scientific article with absolute proof of the calorie deficit is the way for fat/weight loss PLEASE! Nobody listens to me around here...
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LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Ask her how she thinks the human body can create energy out of nothing. If it could it would be the single biggest discovery in the history of humankind. It could solve our energy problems, end world hunger and many wars.megablackk1d wrote: »My mom still believes that a calorie deficit is not the way to weight loss, and believes carbs are the only reason for gaining weight.. She claimed that at one point she tried the "Calorie Deficit" with carbs and still gained, but she never ways her food or does not even know her total daily energy expenditure, and was eating more than she thought she was. Can anyone link me to a scientific article with absolute proof of the calorie deficit is the way for fat/weight loss PLEASE! Nobody listens to me around here...
alright ill try0 -
Or, you can just show her the folks low carbing it (and finding success) in the GAINING WEIGHT forum.0
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Hi Op, show your mum the YouTube video I have given you the link to below and tell her that this guy lost all that weight from eating at a deficit and walking. He is on MFP and you can add him as a friend I'd you like. His is one of the success stories I use as my inspiration when I feel like quiting. Oh, my oldest boy isn't that much younger than you and he knows that if he wants me to loom at something that he has to catch my attention. He usually uses the hey mum come and see this line on me and most times it works
Here is the link:
https://youtu.be/MNo_0vE8rCk
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megablackk1d wrote: »My mom still believes that a calorie deficit is not the way to weight loss, and believes carbs are the only reason for gaining weight.. She claimed that at one point she tried the "Calorie Deficit" with carbs and still gained, but she never ways her food or does not even know her total daily energy expenditure, and was eating more than she thought she was. Can anyone link me to a scientific article with absolute proof of the calorie deficit is the way for fat/weight loss PLEASE! Nobody listens to me around here...
Is your mom's weight a big medical concern right now? Like is she very obese or having health problems that losing weight would help? Or is it not a big deal if she doesn't lose weight?megablackk1d wrote: »thecyclingadmin wrote: »
She wouldn't even look at that bro, I just tried
If she won't look then, sadly, you should let it drop. I say sadly because CICO gets results and your mom is likely going to be frustrated in her efforts without recognizing that truth.
My mom died overweight. She probably wouldn't have believed she could just count calories either.megablackk1d wrote: »I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.
Your mom has the biased mind.
She should stop asking for scientic proof if she is unwilling to look at it. Ask her to find you scientic proof that a calorie deficit does not work for weight loss.
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megablackk1d wrote: »I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.
If your mother has serious health issues from being overweight, why don't you ask if you can go with her to her doctor?
If you're just trying to win an argument, then drop it.
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I am not trying to win an argument haha I am trying to really explain to her what it takes to lose weight.kshama2001 wrote: »megablackk1d wrote: »I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.
If your mother has serious health issues from being overweight, why don't you ask if you can go with her to her doctor?
If you're just trying to win an argument, then drop it.
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Some people want to stay stuck in their own ways.
Are her beliefs affecting YOUR journey? If no, drop it.0 -
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megablackk1d wrote: »
I am not trying to win an argument haha I am trying to really explain to her what it takes to lose weight.kshama2001 wrote: »megablackk1d wrote: »I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.
If your mother has serious health issues from being overweight, why don't you ask if you can go with her to her doctor?
If you're just trying to win an argument, then drop it.
There is a fine line between trying to help someone and badgering them.
im not constantly on her about this tried to explain a few times thats it0 -
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OP, I understand your situation. My mother is the same way about many things (and I'm also not a "know-it-all kid", I'm 46.) There's a mindset with some people that if it is in the news, or on the internet, that it must be true and obviously, they're all "experts" and you're not. Don't beat your forehead bloody banging it against that brick wall. Just choose different topics when you're with her.0
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I am eating carbs and Im losing weight- I think at some point you have to shut off all of the noise and just do what is sensible and tried and true- its so simple- eat less and move more period.0
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Lol, have her look at my food diary and my weight loss. I'm a carb queen and I've lost almost 80 pounds. It's all about the CICO...no matter what you eat. Not saying we should eat junk, but it's certainly possible to lose weight while eating poorly.0
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She is stuck in the media / marketing scam of weight loss scams
Nothing you say will change her mind
It's like a religion ...it needs no proof, it just is based on faith
This. At a work potluck yesterday, my coworker said, "look at all these carbs!" I told her they are good for you, and said said, "Nope. You should only eat them if you're going to exercise." I did not respond because it's not that important.
She also has done every diet under the sun without even having a weight problem, and she thinks she's fat at a size 2. I love my coworker, but any discussions regarding weight, food, and exercise will be skewed because of those perceptions.
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megablackk1d wrote: »
Is she overweight and you are worried about it?
It does sound like you love her very much.
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This doesn't sound like an information problem. It sounds like a respect problem.0
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Tbf you ask people to show you a link and then you claim she wont look at it, which makes it a waste of time trying to answer your questions. Its unlikely your mom is open minded enough to look at or understand anything. Perhaps she could go to her Dr or see a nutritionist and get it confirmed by them, although she seems happy and stubborn enough to ignore you and do nothing.0
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pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
is a journal database.
Some articles will be available in full. but for all, you should be able to see the abstract.
For instance, the abstract for this one
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25540982
starts
"Abstract
"With the increasing obesity epidemic comes the search for effective dietary approaches for calorie restriction and weight loss."
Which indicates that calorie restriction is a settled matter -- no more research is needed to show that cutting calories is how to lose weight.
And in this one,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24075505
the researchers compared high-fat/low carb to low-fat/high carb diets -- but BOTH were low-calorie (hypocaloric).
Another comparing two different diets, both hypocaloric
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23588462
I'm a reporter who has occasionally written about diet. A researcher once told me that people are likely to lose weight on *any* diet that restricts a specific food group, but the weight is likely to return once the restriction ends.0 -
Look up what a "schema" is in psychology terms. I can only give you a brief overview. Which is where people will see what they want to see, even if something points to the contrary. Not a bad thing but I'd say thats where your Mum is at and nothing to with age or being her child. I'd say because you are her child she can be more direct with her beliefs.0
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