My mom Does not belive that a calorie deficit is for weight loss and carbs only make you fat

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  • meganjcallaghan
    meganjcallaghan Posts: 949 Member
    aisforamyaz wrote: »
    The mayo clinic is pretty official, I think:

    http://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/its-complicated-calories-and-other-factors-affect-weight-loss/
    oh no! don't show her THAT! she'll jump on the "zero calorie diet sodas make you FAT" train! lol
  • ForeverSunshine09
    ForeverSunshine09 Posts: 966 Member
    My mom technically believes in CICO but, refuses to do it because it is too hard and takes too long. She tried it not even 2 days and stopped. She thinks as long as she eats what appears to be happy she will lose weight. Since February I have lost 33 lbs and she has gained about 5. I let her believe what she wants and let my results speak for themselves.
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  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    My mom still believes that a calorie deficit is not the way to weight loss, and believes carbs are the only reason for gaining weight.. She claimed that at one point she tried the "Calorie Deficit" with carbs and still gained, but she never ways her food or does not even know her total daily energy expenditure, and was eating more than she thought she was. Can anyone link me to a scientific article with absolute proof of the calorie deficit is the way for fat/weight loss PLEASE! Nobody listens to me around here...
    Ask her how she thinks the human body can create energy out of nothing. If it could it would be the single biggest discovery in the history of humankind. It could solve our energy problems, end world hunger and many wars.
  • megablackk1d
    megablackk1d Posts: 67 Member
    LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    My mom still believes that a calorie deficit is not the way to weight loss, and believes carbs are the only reason for gaining weight.. She claimed that at one point she tried the "Calorie Deficit" with carbs and still gained, but she never ways her food or does not even know her total daily energy expenditure, and was eating more than she thought she was. Can anyone link me to a scientific article with absolute proof of the calorie deficit is the way for fat/weight loss PLEASE! Nobody listens to me around here...
    Ask her how she thinks the human body can create energy out of nothing. If it could it would be the single biggest discovery in the history of humankind. It could solve our energy problems, end world hunger and many wars.

    alright ill try
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    Or, you can just show her the folks low carbing it (and finding success) in the GAINING WEIGHT forum.
  • jorinya
    jorinya Posts: 933 Member
    Hi Op, show your mum the YouTube video I have given you the link to below and tell her that this guy lost all that weight from eating at a deficit and walking. He is on MFP and you can add him as a friend I'd you like. His is one of the success stories I use as my inspiration when I feel like quiting. Oh, my oldest boy isn't that much younger than you and he knows that if he wants me to loom at something that he has to catch my attention. He usually uses the hey mum come and see this line on me and most times it works
    Here is the link:
    https://youtu.be/MNo_0vE8rCk
  • Lounmoun
    Lounmoun Posts: 8,423 Member
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    My mom still believes that a calorie deficit is not the way to weight loss, and believes carbs are the only reason for gaining weight.. She claimed that at one point she tried the "Calorie Deficit" with carbs and still gained, but she never ways her food or does not even know her total daily energy expenditure, and was eating more than she thought she was. Can anyone link me to a scientific article with absolute proof of the calorie deficit is the way for fat/weight loss PLEASE! Nobody listens to me around here...

    Is your mom's weight a big medical concern right now? Like is she very obese or having health problems that losing weight would help? Or is it not a big deal if she doesn't lose weight?
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    thecyclingadmin wrote: »
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

    She wouldn't even look at that bro, I just tried

    If she won't look then, sadly, you should let it drop. I say sadly because CICO gets results and your mom is likely going to be frustrated in her efforts without recognizing that truth.
    My mom died overweight. She probably wouldn't have believed she could just count calories either.
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.

    Your mom has the biased mind.
    She should stop asking for scientic proof if she is unwilling to look at it. Ask her to find you scientic proof that a calorie deficit does not work for weight loss.

  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited May 2015
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.

    If your mother has serious health issues from being overweight, why don't you ask if you can go with her to her doctor?

    If you're just trying to win an argument, then drop it.

  • megablackk1d
    megablackk1d Posts: 67 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.

    If your mother has serious health issues from being overweight, why don't you ask if you can go with her to her doctor?

    If you're just trying to win an argument, then drop it.
    I am not trying to win an argument haha I am trying to really explain to her what it takes to lose weight.
  • hollyrayburn
    hollyrayburn Posts: 905 Member
    edited May 2015
    Some people want to stay stuck in their own ways.

    Are her beliefs affecting YOUR journey? If no, drop it.
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  • megablackk1d
    megablackk1d Posts: 67 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.

    If your mother has serious health issues from being overweight, why don't you ask if you can go with her to her doctor?

    If you're just trying to win an argument, then drop it.
    I am not trying to win an argument haha I am trying to really explain to her what it takes to lose weight.

    There is a fine line between trying to help someone and badgering them.

    im not constantly on her about this tried to explain a few times thats it
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  • MulliganStella
    MulliganStella Posts: 21 Member
    edited May 2015
    OP, I understand your situation. My mother is the same way about many things (and I'm also not a "know-it-all kid", I'm 46.) There's a mindset with some people that if it is in the news, or on the internet, that it must be true and obviously, they're all "experts" and you're not. Don't beat your forehead bloody banging it against that brick wall. Just choose different topics when you're with her.
  • VioletLemon
    VioletLemon Posts: 56 Member
    I am eating carbs and Im losing weight- I think at some point you have to shut off all of the noise and just do what is sensible and tried and true- its so simple- eat less and move more period.
  • FitOldMomma
    FitOldMomma Posts: 790 Member
    Lol, have her look at my food diary and my weight loss. I'm a carb queen and I've lost almost 80 pounds. It's all about the CICO...no matter what you eat. Not saying we should eat junk, but it's certainly possible to lose weight while eating poorly.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    She is stuck in the media / marketing scam of weight loss scams

    Nothing you say will change her mind

    It's like a religion ...it needs no proof, it just is based on faith

    This. At a work potluck yesterday, my coworker said, "look at all these carbs!" I told her they are good for you, and said said, "Nope. You should only eat them if you're going to exercise." I did not respond because it's not that important.

    She also has done every diet under the sun without even having a weight problem, and she thinks she's fat at a size 2. I love my coworker, but any discussions regarding weight, food, and exercise will be skewed because of those perceptions.

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    megablackk1d wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    How does what she believes affect you?

    it doesn't just trying to help her

    Is she overweight and you are worried about it?

    It does sound like you love her very much. :)
  • cahaya
    cahaya Posts: 2 Member
    This doesn't sound like an information problem. It sounds like a respect problem.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    Tbf you ask people to show you a link and then you claim she wont look at it, which makes it a waste of time trying to answer your questions. Its unlikely your mom is open minded enough to look at or understand anything. Perhaps she could go to her Dr or see a nutritionist and get it confirmed by them, although she seems happy and stubborn enough to ignore you and do nothing.
  • JanetMMcC
    JanetMMcC Posts: 410 Member
    pubmed
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
    is a journal database.

    Some articles will be available in full. but for all, you should be able to see the abstract.

    For instance, the abstract for this one
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25540982
    starts
    "Abstract
    "With the increasing obesity epidemic comes the search for effective dietary approaches for calorie restriction and weight loss."

    Which indicates that calorie restriction is a settled matter -- no more research is needed to show that cutting calories is how to lose weight.


    And in this one,
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24075505
    the researchers compared high-fat/low carb to low-fat/high carb diets -- but BOTH were low-calorie (hypocaloric).

    Another comparing two different diets, both hypocaloric
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23588462


    I'm a reporter who has occasionally written about diet. A researcher once told me that people are likely to lose weight on *any* diet that restricts a specific food group, but the weight is likely to return once the restriction ends.
  • jema99
    jema99 Posts: 6 Member
    Look up what a "schema" is in psychology terms. I can only give you a brief overview. Which is where people will see what they want to see, even if something points to the contrary. Not a bad thing but I'd say thats where your Mum is at and nothing to with age or being her child. I'd say because you are her child she can be more direct with her beliefs.
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