Sugar intake limits are impossible!!

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  • thelovelyLIZ
    thelovelyLIZ Posts: 1,227 Member
    ADDED SUGAR ONLY.
  • totalsham
    totalsham Posts: 217 Member
    I totally know what you mean. I used to worry about this as well. I agree with what everyone else has said - basically, eat whole fruit (natural fresh produce) to your heart's content. However, I have read that it's even more important to make sure you eat more vegetables because of the sugar content in fruit (even though fruit is all natural, obviously). So I think you COULD overdo it on the fruit to a mild extent, but if you're like me and just eat some fresh berries, an apple, and a banana every day (the three of which send me skyrocketing over MFP's sugar limit), I would not worry about it at all!

    please explain the difference from sugar in fruit as opposed to sugar in a piece of cake?

    has been done already...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I totally know what you mean. I used to worry about this as well. I agree with what everyone else has said - basically, eat whole fruit (natural fresh produce) to your heart's content. However, I have read that it's even more important to make sure you eat more vegetables because of the sugar content in fruit (even though fruit is all natural, obviously). So I think you COULD overdo it on the fruit to a mild extent, but if you're like me and just eat some fresh berries, an apple, and a banana every day (the three of which send me skyrocketing over MFP's sugar limit), I would not worry about it at all!

    please explain the difference from sugar in fruit as opposed to sugar in a piece of cake?

    has been done already...

    Ok - care to give me the cliff notes version?
  • susannamarie
    susannamarie Posts: 2,148 Member
    I ignore it. It's set to the customary recommendations for added sugar.
  • shannashannabobana
    shannashannabobana Posts: 625 Member
    Ok - care to give me the cliff notes version?
    All I heard was 'fiber'.

    Of course, an apple has loads of nutrients that a glass of coke doesn't.
  • jensan37
    jensan37 Posts: 151 Member
    :smile: Just remove it from your diary
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I totally know what you mean. I used to worry about this as well. I agree with what everyone else has said - basically, eat whole fruit (natural fresh produce) to your heart's content. However, I have read that it's even more important to make sure you eat more vegetables because of the sugar content in fruit (even though fruit is all natural, obviously). So I think you COULD overdo it on the fruit to a mild extent, but if you're like me and just eat some fresh berries, an apple, and a banana every day (the three of which send me skyrocketing over MFP's sugar limit), I would not worry about it at all!

    please explain the difference from sugar in fruit as opposed to sugar in a piece of cake?

    has been done already...

    Ok - care to give me the cliff notes version?

    no, need I found it on page 2..

    I don't see how sugar in a strawberry is better for you than sugar in a piece of candy ...I mean they are both sugar ....
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    it just cracks me up when someone says I eat sugar from fruit but I won't touch candy because it has sugar in it....freaking really? LOL
  • totalsham
    totalsham Posts: 217 Member
    I totally know what you mean. I used to worry about this as well. I agree with what everyone else has said - basically, eat whole fruit (natural fresh produce) to your heart's content. However, I have read that it's even more important to make sure you eat more vegetables because of the sugar content in fruit (even though fruit is all natural, obviously). So I think you COULD overdo it on the fruit to a mild extent, but if you're like me and just eat some fresh berries, an apple, and a banana every day (the three of which send me skyrocketing over MFP's sugar limit), I would not worry about it at all!

    please explain the difference from sugar in fruit as opposed to sugar in a piece of cake?

    has been done already...

    Ok - care to give me the cliff notes version?

    page 2
  • susannamarie
    susannamarie Posts: 2,148 Member
    it just cracks me up when someone says I eat sugar from fruit but I won't touch candy because it has sugar in it....freaking really? LOL

    Hmm. It's more that I tend not to eat candy because it has nothing ELSE other than sugar. No fiber. No micronutrients. Just calories. I still have some occasionally.
  • BlitzClipz
    BlitzClipz Posts: 154 Member
    I recently saw a talk show where a dietician was a guest and he claimed that if you eat less than 3g of sugar daily, no matter what the rest of your diet/exercise for the day looks like, that you'll rapidly lose weight. I suppose there might be something to that since cutting out sugars would mean cutting out most unhealthy foods. He said that even eating fruit is bad in daily amounts.

    Personally I don't care much about my sugar levels as long as they are comprised of mostly "healthy" sugars, like fruits. I also find that my 2% milk is a large source of sugars.
  • yeah thats why i just deleted it off the tracker, ridiculous
  • dcatty94
    dcatty94 Posts: 2
    As long as I'm not getting my sugars from candy, soda, or white grains I don't worry about what my sugar intake is for the day.
  • mom2dzbnwe
    mom2dzbnwe Posts: 129 Member
    I totally know what you mean. I used to worry about this as well. I agree with what everyone else has said - basically, eat whole fruit (natural fresh produce) to your heart's content. However, I have read that it's even more important to make sure you eat more vegetables because of the sugar content in fruit (even though fruit is all natural, obviously). So I think you COULD overdo it on the fruit to a mild extent, but if you're like me and just eat some fresh berries, an apple, and a banana every day (the three of which send me skyrocketing over MFP's sugar limit), I would not worry about it at all!

    please explain the difference from sugar in fruit as opposed to sugar in a piece of cake?

    has been done already...

    Ok - care to give me the cliff notes version?

    no, need I found it on page 2..

    I don't see how sugar in a strawberry is better for you than sugar in a piece of candy ...I mean they are both sugar ....

    I don't think it is "better for you"--except that of course, you actually get vitamins from the strawberry and it's not empty calories like the candy. (I know some candy can have nutritional value, as well)

    The way I see it, sugar is sugar. I am almost always well under my calorie goals and generally over my sugar recommendations. I take it with a grain of salt (pun 100% intended). Sugar can be dangerous in HUGE quantities...this is common sense, but if youre watching what you eat and trying to make healthy choices (fruit vs. candy) you're gonna be fine.
  • laserturkey
    laserturkey Posts: 1,680 Member
    I don't track sugar at all. Sodium is much more important to me. If you don't have a specific need to monitor sugar intake, you can just drop that column from your log or replace it with something else.
  • kimosabe1
    kimosabe1 Posts: 2,467 Member
    I have been type one diabetic for 28 years and having diabetes sometimes requirs natural sugars to maintane blood sugar levels so I am always OVER on sugar everyday and I'm losing.
  • susannamarie
    susannamarie Posts: 2,148 Member
    I recently saw a talk show where a dietician was a guest and he claimed that if you eat less than 3g of sugar daily, no matter what the rest of your diet/exercise for the day looks like, that you'll rapidly lose weight. I suppose there might be something to that since cutting out sugars would mean cutting out most unhealthy foods. He said that even eating fruit is bad in daily amounts.

    Hmm. I would actually suspect that for most people, cutting out ALL sugars would result in cutting out all favored snack foods, and therefore losing weight by default. But I'm calling BS on 'no matter what'. 1) I do not believe that I could eat hundreds if not thousands of calories over my TDEE and not gain just because I'm not eating sugar. I would love to see a study showing that that's possible, because almost all of my favored snack foods are low-sugar -- such as oil-popped popcorn, where I can easily put away 1200 calories in an hour if I'm not paying attention. 2) I have seen people who eat a raw vegan diet with huge proportions of calories coming from fruit. If this were true -- if you needed to cut sugar to lose weight -- they ought to be monstrously obese, but most of the ones I've met (it's popular at my college lately) were on the lean side.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I totally know what you mean. I used to worry about this as well. I agree with what everyone else has said - basically, eat whole fruit (natural fresh produce) to your heart's content. However, I have read that it's even more important to make sure you eat more vegetables because of the sugar content in fruit (even though fruit is all natural, obviously). So I think you COULD overdo it on the fruit to a mild extent, but if you're like me and just eat some fresh berries, an apple, and a banana every day (the three of which send me skyrocketing over MFP's sugar limit), I would not worry about it at all!

    please explain the difference from sugar in fruit as opposed to sugar in a piece of cake?

    has been done already...

    Ok - care to give me the cliff notes version?

    no, need I found it on page 2..

    I don't see how sugar in a strawberry is better for you than sugar in a piece of candy ...I mean they are both sugar ....

    I don't think it is "better for you"--except that of course, you actually get vitamins from the strawberry and it's not empty calories like the candy. (I know some candy can have nutritional value, as well)

    The way I see it, sugar is sugar. I am almost always well under my calorie goals and generally over my sugar recommendations. I take it with a grain of salt (pun 100% intended). Sugar can be dangerous in HUGE quantities...this is common sense, but if youre watching what you eat and trying to make healthy choices (fruit vs. candy) you're gonna be fine.

    But what if you're already at 100% of the vitamins/micros that you would get from the strawberry? Since you don't get extra credit for going over the minimums for vitamins/micros, what is the real difference?

    And I'm not entirely convinced yet that sugar even in huge quantities is necessarily problematic (assuming it isn't in lieu of other basic nutrients).

    ETA:
    And as for the claim of losing weight by cutting out added sugars no matter what, totally bogus. I (intentionally) added 20 pounds in 2012 with a strict paleo diet that had no added sugars. The "trick" was keeping my calories high enough to support the gain.

    It isn't rocket surgery...and calories matter.
  • Emisole
    Emisole Posts: 65
    I completely ignore sugar intake.
  • gwhizeh
    gwhizeh Posts: 269 Member
    it just cracks me up when someone says I eat sugar from fruit but I won't touch candy because it has sugar in it....freaking really? LOL
    I agree, as a type 2 diabetic. Who has attended an course on my condition and deals with this crap daily. You will be told flat out that the body does not care where sugar comes from. To your body. Sugar is sugar. For me fruit can be just as bad as a candy. What makes it any different for a non diabetic? Nothing other than their body can handle it where mine cant. Still doesn't matter the type It's still sugar. And before you all go out and start eating candy like fruit, fruit is obviously the better choice due to the nutrients and fiber to go with it lol.

    Funny. I had this conversation once already today.

    And to be on topic. MFP's numbers appear low to me. But that shouldn't be a shock to anyone here who actually has looked into it.

    Now go eat candy!
  • janimei
    janimei Posts: 105 Member
    Millions of Americans are diabetic or prediabetic and don't know it because they haven't had a fasting glucose test.
    Undiagnosed Americans make their conditions worse by overdoing carbs/sugars. An acquaintance recently checked his blood sugar at a diabetic friend's home, as a lark, and found out he is diabetic--later confirmed by his doctor. So for some of the people commenting here, you may think that sugars/carbs don't matter but later find out that monitoring them would have been a good idea.
    Everyone who is dieting should undergo the basic lab tests, including blood glucose.
  • totalsham
    totalsham Posts: 217 Member
    Millions of Americans are diabetic or prediabetic and don't know it because they haven't had a fasting glucose test.
    Undiagnosed Americans make their conditions worse by overdoing carbs/sugars. An acquaintance recently checked his blood sugar at a diabetic friend's home, as a lark, and found out he is diabetic--later confirmed by his doctor. So for some of the people commenting here, you may think that sugars/carbs don't matter but later find out that monitoring them would have been a good idea.
    Everyone who is dieting should undergo the basic lab tests, including blood glucose.

    lol @ fasting glucose test. Thats a joke right? so if i have 4 donuts and take a glucose test, does that make me diabetic? what if i dont eat for 18 hours and take exam... does that mean i dont have diabetes?

    2nd best exam is H1C. that tests for your what blood sugar is in the last 120 days. This at least shows a better snap shot of your real diet. But... even that test is dumb cause it comes way too late in id'ing your status.

    The best exam is testing for diabetes and pre-diabetes that gives you a shot at stopping it before it occurs is an insulin resistance exam.
  • genofreek
    genofreek Posts: 75
    I took sugar off my list just because the limit MFP puts on me is discouraging as hell. Seeing numbers in the red day after day kills my motivation, and since I'm losing weight and inches at a steady pace and making pretty much all of my calorie/macro goals, I figure I'm doing okay. I'm capable of putting the candy away after a small handful and limiting myself when dessert comes to the table, so I figure that plus cutting sugar sodas out of my diet should make things a little more sane.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    Carbs are bad so I dont eat carbs

    Fat makes you fat so I dont eat fat

    I was eating protein for a while but now I know its destroying my liver in such large quantities...

    now, I just dont eat anything, ever... I think its the healthiest option...


    sugar is the devil and supplements are the end all be all cure to everything
  • Same! I eat a bowl of cereal and a garden salad and I'm already over my limit.
  • alsaxon
    alsaxon Posts: 124 Member
    It's a good idea to not think a piece of fruit = a serving of fruit. For me 1/2 an apple, 1/2 a banana, 1/3 cup of berries and so on or I go by weight.
    That's pretty smart! Never thought of that.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Carbs are bad so I dont eat carbs

    Fat makes you fat so I dont eat fat

    I was eating protein for a while but now I know its destroying my liver in such large quantities...

    now, I just dont eat anything, ever... I think its the healthiest option...


    sugar is the devil and supplements are the end all be all cure to everything

    and they all give you cancer too, don't forget that!
  • Sectility
    Sectility Posts: 37
    Are the daily limits for sugar referring to added sugar only? I sure hope so, because after I eat one or two pieces of fruit and a plain yogurt, I'm already drastically over the limit. I am always over my limit. On a average day I take in about 50 to 60 grams, most of that being from natural sources. I wish they would change the wording to say added sugars if that's what it means, because seeing myself over that so-called daily limit is discouraging.

    Since I need my 100% Vitamin A and C, it's practically impossible doing that without fruit, which has a lot of sugar.
  • WVmom24
    WVmom24 Posts: 266 Member
    Unless you have a health condition requiring you to watch your sugar intake, just don't pay attention to it. If you're eating healthy foods such as plain yogurt/fruits/vegetables, and you're not eating a bunch of processed sweets...you really have nothing to worry about. MFP's preset limits don't HAVE to govern your mind about how much sugar or other nutrients you should eat. Especially when those sugars are coming from healthy natural foods.
  • Recommended sugar intake refers to ADDED sugar. Daily intake guidelines do not apply to certain foods such as fruits, which are natural forms of sugar. Natural sugars do not pose as much risk to your "diet". The AHA (American Heart Association) advises women to limit their sugar intake to 24-30g per day.

    I think we all have this problem. I do not count the fruit that I eat on a daily basis. And I also refuse to buy anything that that claims "added sugar". Aspartame is another very very bad sugar substitute! Stay away from that at all costs! I have completely given up soda (for over a year), sweetened tea, flavored water... It's water, unsweetened tea, and when I feel I need coffee, I take it black.

    Hope this helps! Feel free to add me! :)