Gut Balance Revolution
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Hi I bought this overthe whole 30 bc I think it will help me to better identify my gut issues and my inflammation. For me not so much want to do it for weight loss but for health. I do carb cycle so I don't know how to do both possibly. But I need to focus on healing my gut I think for now. I have ibs c and pcos.0
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Mmmmmm.....fermented veggies goodddddd........0
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Sounds like a lot of books : sales pitch and a slither of truth. I mention Candida below as the book you are asking about recommends a diet that would make this situation worse, not better! It may be a gut revolution, but more like a coup for the bad guys to party even harder! Snake Oil. Handle with care!
The "bad" bacteria in our gut are called Candida. They can be too many of them relative to the "good" gut bacteria. Especially true if we consume antibiotics or have stomach illnesses. The candida sound like party animals-they love sugar and consume the energy before it has a chance to get to our blood (assuming too many). Thus fatigue. Probiotics are used to repopulate the gut and a very low sugar diet and low carbs (no fruit, no grains, no beans) but can eat lots of leafy greens and protein and fat to help restore the balance. Surprising the check list of symptoms that are associated with Candida.0 -
Hello, I am new at this and I would like to know that food is the most healthy and you can do exercises in the gym. thank you!!!0
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BinaryPulsar wrote: »sheldonklein wrote: »Somewhat off point, but what is a fermented vegetable, other than sauerkraut and certain pickles?
That's not off point at all. And yeah, that's exactly what fermented veggies are: sauerkraut, kimchi, flavorful variations on that (salsa and things like that), pickles, pickled veggies (beets for example), olives.
People grossed out by it and saying they don't want to know probably already eat things like pickles and olives.
It's not for "detoxing". It's just good for your microbiome like yogurt. If you have ever taken antibiotics I am sure your doctor told you to eat cultured foods. It's not for detoxing or weight loss. It's just an aspect of intestinal health.
I understand the skepticism of it being presented for weight loss. But, we do have good bacteria and bad bacteria. It's essential. Any scientist knows that. And skepticism is best along with being properly educated as well. Not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
For the grossed out people there is another fermented drink you may consume: wine, beer, alcohol.
Kombucha is not a fermented veggie. It's some kind of cultured juice. I wouldn't drink that.
Wait. Salsa is a fermented thingee? Ok! I will happily eat salsa, pickled eggs, pickled beets, and good old fashioned pickles. I will grudgingly eat sauerkraut on rare occasions. No olives. Or that kefir stuff. I can usually tell the next fad/trend as my friend is often on every band wagon out there. Not for weight loss, just general trying to eat more healthy because stuff in stores is poison ...lol0 -
BinaryPulsar wrote: »sheldonklein wrote: »Somewhat off point, but what is a fermented vegetable, other than sauerkraut and certain pickles?
That's not off point at all. And yeah, that's exactly what fermented veggies are: sauerkraut, kimchi, flavorful variations on that (salsa and things like that), pickles, pickled veggies (beets for example), olives.
People grossed out by it and saying they don't want to know probably already eat things like pickles and olives.
It's not for "detoxing". It's just good for your microbiome like yogurt. If you have ever taken antibiotics I am sure your doctor told you to eat cultured foods. It's not for detoxing or weight loss. It's just an aspect of intestinal health.
I understand the skepticism of it being presented for weight loss. But, we do have good bacteria and bad bacteria. It's essential. Any scientist knows that. And skepticism is best along with being properly educated as well. Not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
For the grossed out people there is another fermented drink you may consume: wine, beer, alcohol.
Kombucha is not a fermented veggie. It's some kind of cultured juice. I wouldn't drink that.
Wait. Salsa is a fermented thingee? Ok! I will happily eat salsa, pickled eggs, pickled beets, and good old fashioned pickles. I will grudgingly eat sauerkraut on rare occasions. No olives. Or that kefir stuff. I can usually tell the next fad/trend as my friend is often on every band wagon out there. Not for weight loss, just general trying to eat more healthy because stuff in stores is poison ...lol
I can't even eat any of those cultured (fermented foods) or yogurt, etc. It's a long story. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. But, a dermatologist prescribed a harmful topical med that injured the nerves in my face 3 months ago. It's neurogenic rosacea. And the pain increases from histamine in food. And I had been eating the cultured food because I was misdiagnosed and over treated with antibiotics. I was healthy and happy. Injured by doctors. Trying to recover.0 -
BinaryPulsar wrote: »sheldonklein wrote: »Somewhat off point, but what is a fermented vegetable, other than sauerkraut and certain pickles?
That's not off point at all. And yeah, that's exactly what fermented veggies are: sauerkraut, kimchi, flavorful variations on that (salsa and things like that), pickles, pickled veggies (beets for example), olives.
People grossed out by it and saying they don't want to know probably already eat things like pickles and olives.
It's not for "detoxing". It's just good for your microbiome like yogurt. If you have ever taken antibiotics I am sure your doctor told you to eat cultured foods. It's not for detoxing or weight loss. It's just an aspect of intestinal health.
I understand the skepticism of it being presented for weight loss. But, we do have good bacteria and bad bacteria. It's essential. Any scientist knows that. And skepticism is best along with being properly educated as well. Not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
For the grossed out people there is another fermented drink you may consume: wine, beer, alcohol.
Kombucha is not a fermented veggie. It's some kind of cultured juice. I wouldn't drink that.
Wait. Salsa is a fermented thingee? Ok! I will happily eat salsa, pickled eggs, pickled beets, and good old fashioned pickles. I will grudgingly eat sauerkraut on rare occasions. No olives. Or that kefir stuff. I can usually tell the next fad/trend as my friend is often on every band wagon out there. Not for weight loss, just general trying to eat more healthy because stuff in stores is poison ...lol
It depends on the kind of salsa. Lacto-fermented salsa has probiotics, but heat-canned salsa (the kind you buy off the shelf in the grocery store) had all the bacteria naturally present in it killed to preserve it. Same thing with saurkraut and pickled eggs -- if you bought it off the shelf, it probably doesn't have probiotic benefits.0 -
Strawblackcat wrote: »BinaryPulsar wrote: »sheldonklein wrote: »Somewhat off point, but what is a fermented vegetable, other than sauerkraut and certain pickles?
That's not off point at all. And yeah, that's exactly what fermented veggies are: sauerkraut, kimchi, flavorful variations on that (salsa and things like that), pickles, pickled veggies (beets for example), olives.
People grossed out by it and saying they don't want to know probably already eat things like pickles and olives.
It's not for "detoxing". It's just good for your microbiome like yogurt. If you have ever taken antibiotics I am sure your doctor told you to eat cultured foods. It's not for detoxing or weight loss. It's just an aspect of intestinal health.
I understand the skepticism of it being presented for weight loss. But, we do have good bacteria and bad bacteria. It's essential. Any scientist knows that. And skepticism is best along with being properly educated as well. Not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
For the grossed out people there is another fermented drink you may consume: wine, beer, alcohol.
Kombucha is not a fermented veggie. It's some kind of cultured juice. I wouldn't drink that.
Wait. Salsa is a fermented thingee? Ok! I will happily eat salsa, pickled eggs, pickled beets, and good old fashioned pickles. I will grudgingly eat sauerkraut on rare occasions. No olives. Or that kefir stuff. I can usually tell the next fad/trend as my friend is often on every band wagon out there. Not for weight loss, just general trying to eat more healthy because stuff in stores is poison ...lol
It depends on the kind of salsa. Lacto-fermented salsa has probiotics, but heat-canned salsa (the kind you buy off the shelf in the grocery store) had all the bacteria naturally present in it killed to preserve it. Same thing with saurkraut and pickled eggs -- if you bought it off the shelf, it probably doesn't have probiotic benefits.
That's true. The kind I used to eat was wildbrine.0 -
BinaryPulsar wrote: »BinaryPulsar wrote: »sheldonklein wrote: »Somewhat off point, but what is a fermented vegetable, other than sauerkraut and certain pickles?
That's not off point at all. And yeah, that's exactly what fermented veggies are: sauerkraut, kimchi, flavorful variations on that (salsa and things like that), pickles, pickled veggies (beets for example), olives.
People grossed out by it and saying they don't want to know probably already eat things like pickles and olives.
It's not for "detoxing". It's just good for your microbiome like yogurt. If you have ever taken antibiotics I am sure your doctor told you to eat cultured foods. It's not for detoxing or weight loss. It's just an aspect of intestinal health.
I understand the skepticism of it being presented for weight loss. But, we do have good bacteria and bad bacteria. It's essential. Any scientist knows that. And skepticism is best along with being properly educated as well. Not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
For the grossed out people there is another fermented drink you may consume: wine, beer, alcohol.
Kombucha is not a fermented veggie. It's some kind of cultured juice. I wouldn't drink that.
Wait. Salsa is a fermented thingee? Ok! I will happily eat salsa, pickled eggs, pickled beets, and good old fashioned pickles. I will grudgingly eat sauerkraut on rare occasions. No olives. Or that kefir stuff. I can usually tell the next fad/trend as my friend is often on every band wagon out there. Not for weight loss, just general trying to eat more healthy because stuff in stores is poison ...lol
I can't even eat any of those cultured (fermented foods) or yogurt, etc. It's a long story. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. But, a dermatologist prescribed a harmful topical med that injured the nerves in my face 3 months ago. It's neurogenic rosacea. And the pain increases from histamine in food. And I had been eating the cultured food because I was misdiagnosed and over treated with antibiotics. I was healthy and happy. Injured by doctors. Trying to recover.
I hope you find a full recovery from your over treatment with antibiotics. Some of the rest of us can relate to being injured by doctors treating a 'condition' vs treating the patient.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »BinaryPulsar wrote: »BinaryPulsar wrote: »sheldonklein wrote: »Somewhat off point, but what is a fermented vegetable, other than sauerkraut and certain pickles?
That's not off point at all. And yeah, that's exactly what fermented veggies are: sauerkraut, kimchi, flavorful variations on that (salsa and things like that), pickles, pickled veggies (beets for example), olives.
People grossed out by it and saying they don't want to know probably already eat things like pickles and olives.
It's not for "detoxing". It's just good for your microbiome like yogurt. If you have ever taken antibiotics I am sure your doctor told you to eat cultured foods. It's not for detoxing or weight loss. It's just an aspect of intestinal health.
I understand the skepticism of it being presented for weight loss. But, we do have good bacteria and bad bacteria. It's essential. Any scientist knows that. And skepticism is best along with being properly educated as well. Not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
For the grossed out people there is another fermented drink you may consume: wine, beer, alcohol.
Kombucha is not a fermented veggie. It's some kind of cultured juice. I wouldn't drink that.
Wait. Salsa is a fermented thingee? Ok! I will happily eat salsa, pickled eggs, pickled beets, and good old fashioned pickles. I will grudgingly eat sauerkraut on rare occasions. No olives. Or that kefir stuff. I can usually tell the next fad/trend as my friend is often on every band wagon out there. Not for weight loss, just general trying to eat more healthy because stuff in stores is poison ...lol
I can't even eat any of those cultured (fermented foods) or yogurt, etc. It's a long story. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. But, a dermatologist prescribed a harmful topical med that injured the nerves in my face 3 months ago. It's neurogenic rosacea. And the pain increases from histamine in food. And I had been eating the cultured food because I was misdiagnosed and over treated with antibiotics. I was healthy and happy. Injured by doctors. Trying to recover.
I hope you find a full recovery from your over treatment with antibiotics. Some of the rest of us can relate to being injured by doctors treating a 'condition' vs treating the patient.
Thank you so much!!! Sorry to hear that you relate!0 -
Sarasmaintaining wrote: »
Exactly.
Know what else boosts your metabolism? Standing up. Eating. Sitting down. Sleeping. Not eating. Walking. Getting a coffee. Checking the mail. Naps.
Gotta love those marketing terms.0 -
SamandaIndia wrote: »Sounds like a lot of books : sales pitch and a slither of truth. I mention Candida below as the book you are asking about recommends a diet that would make this situation worse, not better! It may be a gut revolution, but more like a coup for the bad guys to party even harder! Snake Oil. Handle with care!
The "bad" bacteria in our gut are called Candida. They can be too many of them relative to the "good" gut bacteria. Especially true if we consume antibiotics or have stomach illnesses. The candida sound like party animals-they love sugar and consume the energy before it has a chance to get to our blood (assuming too many). Thus fatigue. Probiotics are used to repopulate the gut and a very low sugar diet and low carbs (no fruit, no grains, no beans) but can eat lots of leafy greens and protein and fat to help restore the balance. Surprising the check list of symptoms that are associated with Candida.
You do realise that candida is actually not a bacteria but a yeast and naturally occurs on or in the human body. Candida overgrowth can cause a lot of problems but would really only happen in immunocompromised people or with high antibiotic use, immunocompromised in the sense that a bacterial infection has already taken hold somewhere in the body, probiotics will help when taking antibiotics.0 -
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CavitaKapadia wrote:In response to this, science does not know everything yet, but science has overwhelming evidence that suggest that gut microbes affect allergies, yeast infections, immunity, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and my personal favorite, depression and anxiety.
Crickets.flyingtanuki wrote:That's really cool. So you wouldn't mind helping the rest of us out by posting links/citations to:
a study showing within a 95% window of confidence that gut microbes affect allergies.
a study showing within a 95% window of confidence that gut microbes affect yeast infections.
a study showing within a 95% window of confidence that gut microbes affect immunity
a study showing within a 95% window of confidence that gut microbes affect lupus
a study showing within a 95% window of confidence that gut microbes affect rheumatoid arthritis
a study showing within a 95% window of confidence that gut microbes affect depression and anxiety
Not even just 1 study? C'mon... you said there is "overwhelming evidence". Show us some.
Here, I'll help.
Here's a good place to find health-related studies which have been published in peer-reviewed journals.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed0 -
snake oil!! Why congress goes after Dr. Oz and not the rest of these bafooms is beyond me.. Hey Medical License board take this guys license he has clearly deviated from medical protocol..0
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SamandaIndia wrote: »get
You do realise that candida is actually not a bacteria but a yeast and naturally occurs on or in the human body. Candida overgrowth can cause a lot of problems but would really only happen in immunocompromised people or with high antibiotic use, immunocompromised in the sense that a bacterial infection has already taken hold somewhere in the body, probiotics will help when taking antibiotics.
Yes now realise it is a yeast. Thanks for the correction.Just a language issue of good guys n bad guy biotics did have me confused.
Disagree with your overarching statement on who Candida could impact. Sounds like a reasonable generalisation, however given my experience, perhaps too general. Which could put people off getting help. I don't fit your 2 options but I have responded amazingly well to treatment. Maybe you could add years in India with more than a few doses of "Delhi Belly" to your generalisation0
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