Is A Calorie Really A Calorie?

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  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    MaiLinna wrote: »
    He believes in quality of food, not quantity
    If he eats over maintenance, even if it's organic unicorn, he'll gain weight. Period.

    Please post a recipe

    http://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2012/04/unicorn-cookbook-found-at-the-british-library.html
    Taketh one unicorne...marinade in cloves and garlic, and then roast[] on a griddle.

    "The cookbook's compiler, doubtless Geoffrey Fule himself, added pictures in its margins, depicting the unicorn being prepared and then served."

    It doesn't say if it's organic unicorn, but in the 14th century I'd guess yes.

    I understand that Edward III was really into organics, as well as warring on France.

    You win the internet today my friend...
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    I'm trying to wrap my head around a non-organic unicorn. I mean, come on, these can't REALLY exist, right?
  • Wiseandcurious
    Wiseandcurious Posts: 730 Member
    MaiLinna wrote: »
    He believes in quality of food, not quantity
    If he eats over maintenance, even if it's organic unicorn, he'll gain weight. Period.

    Please post a recipe

    Only if the organic unicorn was grass-fed antibiotics- and hormone-free ethically sourced from a local farmer and was then caught personally by you and cooked in the best of paleo traditions and not barbecued because burnt meat is bad and incidentally is that sauce you're serving with it sugar/aspartame/preservative free...?!
  • Wiseandcurious
    Wiseandcurious Posts: 730 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    MaiLinna wrote: »
    He believes in quality of food, not quantity
    If he eats over maintenance, even if it's organic unicorn, he'll gain weight. Period.

    Please post a recipe

    http://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2012/04/unicorn-cookbook-found-at-the-british-library.html
    Taketh one unicorne...marinade in cloves and garlic, and then roast[] on a griddle.

    "The cookbook's compiler, doubtless Geoffrey Fule himself, added pictures in its margins, depicting the unicorn being prepared and then served."

    It doesn't say if it's organic unicorn, but in the 14th century I'd guess yes.

    I understand that Edward III was really into organics, as well as warring on France.

    Oh... My...

    With cloves and garlick, I see.... Forget my comments about the sauce then :)


  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    here is my contribution OP

    500 calories of donuts = 500 calories of carrots from an energy perspective; however, they are not nutritionally the same.

    Therefore, you should adhere to the following:

    calorie deficit for straight weight loss
    micro/macro adherence for body recomposition and overall health.

    What this means is that in the context of your overall diet you should be eating nutrient dense foods to hit your micros/macros but there is nothing wrong with incorporating things like pizza, ice cream, cookies, etc.

    and in for the inevitable, well "yea, you could eat 1200 calories of twinkie and lose weight but you would not be healthy.
  • shrinkingletters
    shrinkingletters Posts: 1,008 Member
    If she dumps her genius boyfriend, she'll definitely lose weight.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    amwood1528 wrote: »
    To answer your question, yes, a calorie is a calorie. However, what you eat depends on how the food effects your body. For example, in the documentary, Fed up, they used 160 calories of almonds and compared it to 160 calories of Coke. Yes, it's the same amount of calories but the coke produces a lot of sugar that turned into fat, while the almonds produced fiber. So, you can eat 3,000 calories of veggies and fruits and be fine compare to 3,000 calories of processed fatty foods. Calories are a form of measurement however.

    what?

    so I can eat 3000 calories of vegetables, be in a surplus and not gain ...but the minute I go over to 3000 calories of processed foods I will gain???

  • FoxyLifter
    FoxyLifter Posts: 965 Member
    To put it simply:

    ~For weight loss: calories in < calories out
    ~For body composition (maximize fat loss and minimize muscle loss): eat enough protein and do some sort of progressive resistance training routine
    ~For overall health: eat enough fats and micronutrients (especially fiber), get enough sleep, stay hydrated, maybe do some cardio and be sure not to overdo it with exercise (rest days are as important as lifting days)
    ~For your sanity: don't cut out foods you love for no medical reason. Be consistent and patient, but not obsessive.

    That's my thoughts in a nutshell.

    Also, is it possible that you're hypoglycemic? I am and I have gotten dizzy and vomited bile from a lack of food from an extended period of time. You will like benefit from eating small meals throughout the day or snacks in between each meal. Also, in light of the recent theme of topics on the forum, you will likely not benefit from doing low carb... But this is assuming that you're like me. Health should come first, always before weight loss (assuming you're not morbidly obese in which case I would put the two goals on the same level.... And now I'm babbling because I'm guessing you're not morbidly obese).
  • SergeantSausage
    SergeantSausage Posts: 1,673 Member
    A calorie is a calorie. But a sandwich, is just not a sandwich without the tangy taste of Miracle Whip.

    Well that just may be a Sandwich ... But a Manwich is a Meal, right?

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  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    Miracle Whip and Manwiches both suck.

    If you have ground beef and hamburger buns, make a freaking hamburger. With mustard.
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    Miracle Whip and Manwiches both suck.

    If you have ground beef and hamburger buns, make a freaking hamburger. With mustard.

    (deli or Dijon)

    yellow mustard is for savages
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    amwood1528 wrote: »
    To answer your question, yes, a calorie is a calorie. However, what you eat depends on how the food effects your body. For example, in the documentary, Fed up, they used 160 calories of almonds and compared it to 160 calories of Coke. Yes, it's the same amount of calories but the coke produces a lot of sugar that turned into fat, while the almonds produced fiber. So, you can eat 3,000 calories of veggies and fruits and be fine compare to 3,000 calories of processed fatty foods. Calories are a form of measurement however.
    Body turns sugar into fat :s
    Turning carbohydrates into fat is de novo lipogensis, and while humans can do it, it is generally a metabolic pathway of last resort.
    Almonds actually contain a ton of fat.
    Nevermind that if you're eating almonds in the United States, chances are they're already a processed food.
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  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    If you can't throw in advertising tag lines now and again, what's the point. But, damn, Miracle Whip makes me think it's mayonnaise gone bad.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Miracle Whip and Manwiches both suck.

    If you have ground beef and hamburger buns, make a freaking hamburger. With mustard.

    Correct answer.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    Miracle Whip and Manwiches both suck.

    If you have ground beef and hamburger buns, make a freaking hamburger. With avocado and bacon.

    FIFY

  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    If you can't throw in advertising tag lines now and again, what's the point. But, damn, Miracle Whip makes me think it's mayonnaise gone bad.

    A calorie is a calorie. Unless it comes from miracle whip in which case it's a spawn of satan.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    Kruggeri wrote: »
    Miracle Whip and Manwiches both suck.

    If you have ground beef and hamburger buns, make a freaking hamburger. With avocado and bacon.

    FIFY
    Additional elements are additional. You have to start with the baseline.

  • JuliannaEP
    JuliannaEP Posts: 53 Member
    amwood1528 wrote: »
    To answer your question, yes, a calorie is a calorie. However, what you eat depends on how the food effects your body. For example, in the documentary, Fed up, they used 160 calories of almonds and compared it to 160 calories of Coke. Yes, it's the same amount of calories but the coke produces a lot of sugar that turned into fat, while the almonds produced fiber. So, you can eat 3,000 calories of veggies and fruits and be fine compare to 3,000 calories of processed fatty foods. Calories are a form of measurement however.

    So true! ^^^
  • overin2015
    overin2015 Posts: 94 Member
    First off - haven't read the 3 other pages of replies so this may be redundant. You said something about getting on a plane. Did you fly somewhere and then you all started this conversation? Reason I ask is because if you were on "vacation" you may be more active then you were at home. Different scale could make a difference too at first. Also you were eating more fiber as per the things you said you were eating which does affect mass that is in our body - ie. water and stool. If you were eating higher calories than normal but exercising more then maybe you were burning them off. Boyfriend does walk 2 miles apparently every night - did you join him? A change in activity can cause your body to drop some of the mass that it was holding and that would show as a small drop on the scale. Just a thought. I do believe in the other posts - a calorie is a calorie but for what is best for the body then those calories are not equal. Have you studied intuitive eating? This may be a solution for a while for you. Eating only when hungry and finishing when satisfied. As an alternative to obsession over the calorie counting.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    This thread is about proving apples won't cause weight gain by making an apples to oranges comparison.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,148 Member
    draznyth wrote: »
    Miracle Whip and Manwiches both suck.

    If you have ground beef and hamburger buns, make a freaking hamburger. With mustard.

    (deli or Dijon)

    yellow mustard is for savages

    Pardon me,
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  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    zyxst wrote: »
    draznyth wrote: »
    Miracle Whip and Manwiches both suck.

    If you have ground beef and hamburger buns, make a freaking hamburger. With mustard.

    (deli or Dijon)

    yellow mustard is for savages

    Pardon me,
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    I don't know what the hell Grey Poupon really is, but it ain't mustard.
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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Miracle whip sounds like cream in a can

    Why would you put that on a sandwich?
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Miracle whip sounds like cream in a can

    Why would you put that on a sandwich?

    oh you know

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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Miracle whip sounds like cream in a can

    Why would you put that on a sandwich?

    Isn't it basically like the US version of salad cream?

    I don't eat either, though.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    draznyth wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Miracle whip sounds like cream in a can

    Why would you put that on a sandwich?

    oh you know

    6a00d8341bfa1853ef010535d2dc55970b-800wi.jpg

    Thought that pic was for why do prolonged cardio.
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