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Changing your diet for weight loss is a lot easier than you are imagining it. There are very small changes you can make. The very act of logging everything often leads to weight loss because do you want to log five servings of hiker's mix, or stop at one (decent portion)? If you must have a plan here's one.
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I can only echo what other people have said. Have a look at your macros and aim to hit them so you're getting a good mix of carbs/protein/fat and make sure you're at a calorie deficit.
The problem is that you've already specifically said that no 'here's what you should eat when' diets have worked for you, and to be honest that's pretty common. In order to make it a long-term lifestyle change, which is what will keep the weight off after you lose it, you're going to need to be responsible for your diet in the long term. Following a certain diet plan is fine until you fall off the wagon and start stress eating again. Just following a calorie deficit will prevent you from one day eating every carb you see and ruining a low-carb diet for example.
And this IS the 'tried and tested' guidance you're looking for. Just because it is as simple as 'don't eat too much' doesn't mean it doesn't work.0 -
Thank you Ty. I was seriously regretting posting this. Pretty bad first post makes you want to give up before you even start because the answers are so discouraging. I'm looking to lose only fat, which I understand may be impossible for the most part unless you eat certain ways. I know I need to eat less carbs but I also know certain days are ok to eat more carbs. I'm not a huge fan of fish and dairy is not a friend. I have basic knowledge but not the knowledge I need to get where I want to be. I know I'm not working out intensely enough yet to have "the ROCK" size carb up days. But I need a starting point.
Honestly you need to educate yourself on nutrution. people have been helpful but your current level of understanding is making it difficult for you to understand how weight loss really works.
Everyone wants to lose only fat, the best way of maximising that is to eat at a deficit and also lift , so that you retain the maximum lean body mass. Its not to do with what you eat.
If you dont like fish and you dont like dairy, then ermm dont eat them. It seems your current understanding is getting in the way . Keep it simple.
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You can't expect someone to come up with the best answer for YOU.
Most people here have, yes, been through years of trial and error to find what works for them. Why are you trying to take a shortcut? It is journey, YOUR journey - strap in, eat in deficit, and enjoy yourself. Take some yoga classes, boxing, or something you think you will enjoy and can maintain long term. Look in the success stories on the forum - there are pages of real life success stories, each one is completely different. Don't get bored with your workouts or food, always try to switch it up.
There's no problem in asking for help, just be polite about it and most people here will be willing to help.
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Thank you Ty. I was seriously regretting posting this. Pretty bad first post makes you want to give up before you even start because the answers are so discouraging. I'm looking to lose only fat, which I understand may be impossible for the most part unless you eat certain ways. I know I need to eat less carbs but I also know certain days are ok to eat more carbs. I'm not a huge fan of fish and dairy is not a friend. I have basic knowledge but not the knowledge I need to get where I want to be. I know I'm not working out intensely enough yet to have "the ROCK" size carb up days. But I need a starting point.
Don't be discouraged because it's not impossible. And you certainly don't have to eat a specific way. You just have to eat fewer calories than your body burns. How you compose the food within that calorie allowance is up to you.
That being said, nutrition is important for health and satiety (so that you're not hungry all the time). It's important for health and satiety to get your protein/fats/fiber in. Try to hit the goals that MFP sets for you and you can adjust them later on if that's not working for you. Then you can fill the rest of your calories with whatever you want (yes, even chips, chocolate, and ice cream). Hitting your macros/micros will help you in the long term with your health, retaining muscle mass, and with sticking to your diet.
Here's my more specific advice that I don't feel like typing out again. Hope it helps: myfitnesspal.com/blog/SingRunTing0 -
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And if you think eat in a deficit and eat what works for you is supportive and encouraging then I'll be nice and say. I'm not on here looking for generic "supportive and encouraging answers" Like in my previous post. I want REAL, trial and error results that others tried. I'm not looking to waste years finding what works for me because in the end I'll always default to my past ways when things get hard because nothing has worked for me in the past. I want someone to say heres what worked for me so I can tell myself on day 3, 4, or 5 when *kitten* gets hard and cravings set in " hey this worked for them. Lets try this another week before we tweak it and see how it goes". Like I said I'm not a nutritionist so ask me what to eat and lose weight and Ill tell you generic crap I've read and tried and failed at.
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rainbowbow wrote: »
Alright LOOK. I was graced with a naturally athletic body that I could eat anything and do whatever. Then I joined the Army and after 3 years I suddenly came down with a medical disorder and started stress eating and eventually they kicked me out. So after continually stress eating and never having learned what I should and shouldn't eat. Im here asking for help from others who have gained weight and wanted to lose it. I'm not here for eat in a deficit. Find what works for you. I'm here for GUIDANCE. For REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES on what people tried and had the best luck with. Apparently you must have had luck. What worked for you. What are u currently doing? Must be doing more then eating whatever you want and remaining in a deficit. IF you are that doesn't work for everyone. Where do I start where all I have to do is tweak it to fit me instead of starting over fresh. Its called learning from others failures.rainbowbow wrote: »No, I am ready to start. Like my post said I'm looking to lose fat. NOT lose fat and muscle. I want to build muscle and tone up. Not on a bodybuilder level. But even they had to start somewhere and I doubt do a calorie deficit and find what you like is the advice they received.
For someone who is "looking to get serious" and wants to "enjoy the journey and do it right for the final time." you're not really looking at things objectively. You seem to be taking the victim role here. Take control over your nutrition, diet, exercise plan, and do what works best for you! You think the people who are bodybuilders put the responsibility of their routine on someone else? Or did they take responsibility for their diet and actually LEARN what works for them? They educated themselves on nutrition, they educated themselves through trial and error on eating styles, they educated themselves through consistent failure and refused to give up.
No one diet fits all.
what if i told you... that's the advice i got and i DID find what worked for me? Every single answer from every single individual here will be different. We are all different.
I am a vegetarian and have been my entire life. What worked for me? Eating the $h!t i like but less of it.
What makes you think if you've " generic crap I've read and tried and failed at." that you'll succeed by doing it again? That is essentially what you're asking for. Hey guys, i know i've tried and failed in the past just doing what other people said worked for them and eating foods that worked for them, but can i try it again?
Honestly, I am done. I have been on MFP for 4 years and i HAVE reached my goals. I stick around to help others reach theirs. But if you refuse to read any of the information we've given and want to be stubborn, your success or failure is up to you. good luck.
I got the same advice and it worked for me too. I suspect that this advice puts too much responsibility on the OP and she doesn't like that. Once I realized that the only thing I had to do was eat fewer calories I also realized that it completely stripped away any excuses. I can't blame the diet or demonize any macronutrient or decide that it "doesn't work for me." This is it and demanding to have your hand held, OP, will get you absolutely nowhere.
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And if you think eat in a deficit and eat what works for you is supportive and encouraging then I'll be nice and say. I'm not on here looking for generic "supportive and encouraging answers" Like in my previous post. I want REAL, trial and error results that others tried. I'm not looking to waste years finding what works for me because in the end I'll always default to my past ways when things get hard because nothing has worked for me in the past. I want someone to say heres what worked for me so I can tell myself on day 3, 4, or 5 when *kitten* gets hard and cravings set in " hey this worked for them. Lets try this another week before we tweak it and see how it goes". Like I said I'm not a nutritionist so ask me what to eat and lose weight and Ill tell you generic crap I've read and tried and failed at.
Hehehehehe this is going to be fuuuuuuuun!
ETA: But seriously. Read the previous answers, if you aren't able to see how their REAL advice works, then you're obviously not ready.0 -
This and this.rainbowbow wrote: »
Alright LOOK. I was graced with a naturally athletic body that I could eat anything and do whatever. Then I joined the Army and after 3 years I suddenly came down with a medical disorder and started stress eating and eventually they kicked me out. So after continually stress eating and never having learned what I should and shouldn't eat. Im here asking for help from others who have gained weight and wanted to lose it. I'm not here for eat in a deficit. Find what works for you. I'm here for GUIDANCE. For REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES on what people tried and had the best luck with. Apparently you must have had luck. What worked for you. What are u currently doing? Must be doing more then eating whatever you want and remaining in a deficit. IF you are that doesn't work for everyone. Where do I start where all I have to do is tweak it to fit me instead of starting over fresh. Its called learning from others failures.rainbowbow wrote: »No, I am ready to start. Like my post said I'm looking to lose fat. NOT lose fat and muscle. I want to build muscle and tone up. Not on a bodybuilder level. But even they had to start somewhere and I doubt do a calorie deficit and find what you like is the advice they received.
For someone who is "looking to get serious" and wants to "enjoy the journey and do it right for the final time." you're not really looking at things objectively. You seem to be taking the victim role here. Take control over your nutrition, diet, exercise plan, and do what works best for you! You think the people who are bodybuilders put the responsibility of their routine on someone else? Or did they take responsibility for their diet and actually LEARN what works for them? They educated themselves on nutrition, they educated themselves through trial and error on eating styles, they educated themselves through consistent failure and refused to give up.
No one diet fits all.
what if i told you... that's the advice i got and i DID find what worked for me? Every single answer from every single individual here will be different. We are all different.
I am a vegetarian and have been my entire life. What worked for me? Eating the $h!t i like but less of it.
What makes you think if you've " generic crap I've read and tried and failed at." that you'll succeed by doing it again? That is essentially what you're asking for. Hey guys, i know i've tried and failed in the past just doing what other people said worked for them and eating foods that worked for them, but can i try it again?
Honestly, I am done. I have been on MFP for 4 years and i HAVE reached my goals. I stick around to help others reach theirs. But if you refuse to read any of the information we've given and want to be stubborn, your success or failure is up to you. good luck.
I got the same advice and it worked for me too. I suspect that this advice puts too much responsibility on the OP and she doesn't like that. Once I realized that the only thing I had to do was eat fewer calories I also realized that it completely stripped away any excuses. I can't blame the diet or demonize any macronutrient or decide that it "doesn't work for me." This is it and demanding to have your hand held, OP, will get you absolutely nowhere.
People want to be force fed reasons why they can't do it, without sucking it up and doing the work.
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Thanks for the reply, but my personal preference is what got me into this mess. I am not a nutritionist and all my doctor told me was to stick to 1500 calories and find a diet that works for me...which isn't the least bit helpful
I'm not a nutritionist either, but I can tell you what worked for me. I got a food scale and started playing around with my allotted calories (1700 calories when I started). I tried 100 calories for breakfast, 500 calories for lunch, and 900 calories for dinner, and 200 calories for a snack. I was starving right after breakfast, so I adjusted that number up.
I logged everything using a food scale and started to notice I was not hitting the recommended Fat/Carb/Protein ratios that MyFitnessPal recommends. It defaults to 20% Protein, 50% carb, 30% fat. I noticed that I tended to go way under on protein, so I started to look at which foods I eat are higher in protein and eat more of those.
In order to maximize the amount of fat you lose while minimizing the amount of muscle you lose you will want to start a strength training program. I recommend Stronglifts 5X5 or similar.
One thing I can say for sure, body type does not matter. Excess abdominal fat increases risk of things like insulin sensitivity, but the fact that you carry fat in your thighs does not mean that you should be on a particular weight loss diet or fitness program.
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rainbowbow wrote: »
Alright LOOK. I was graced with a naturally athletic body that I could eat anything and do whatever. Then I joined the Army and after 3 years I suddenly came down with a medical disorder and started stress eating and eventually they kicked me out. So after continually stress eating and never having learned what I should and shouldn't eat. Im here asking for help from others who have gained weight and wanted to lose it. I'm not here for eat in a deficit. Find what works for you. I'm here for GUIDANCE. For REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES on what people tried and had the best luck with. Apparently you must have had luck. What worked for you. What are u currently doing? Must be doing more then eating whatever you want and remaining in a deficit. IF you are that doesn't work for everyone. Where do I start where all I have to do is tweak it to fit me instead of starting over fresh. Its called learning from others failures.rainbowbow wrote: »No, I am ready to start. Like my post said I'm looking to lose fat. NOT lose fat and muscle. I want to build muscle and tone up. Not on a bodybuilder level. But even they had to start somewhere and I doubt do a calorie deficit and find what you like is the advice they received.
For someone who is "looking to get serious" and wants to "enjoy the journey and do it right for the final time." you're not really looking at things objectively. You seem to be taking the victim role here. Take control over your nutrition, diet, exercise plan, and do what works best for you! You think the people who are bodybuilders put the responsibility of their routine on someone else? Or did they take responsibility for their diet and actually LEARN what works for them? They educated themselves on nutrition, they educated themselves through trial and error on eating styles, they educated themselves through consistent failure and refused to give up.
No one diet fits all.
what if i told you... that's the advice i got and i DID find what worked for me? Every single answer from every single individual here will be different. We are all different.
I am a vegetarian and have been my entire life. What worked for me? Eating the $h!t i like but less of it.
What makes you think if you've " generic crap I've read and tried and failed at." that you'll succeed by doing it again? That is essentially what you're asking for. Hey guys, i know i've tried and failed in the past just doing what other people said worked for them and eating foods that worked for them, but can i try it again?
Honestly, I am done. I have been on MFP for 4 years and i HAVE reached my goals. I stick around to help others reach theirs. But if you refuse to read any of the information we've given and want to be stubborn, your success or failure is up to you. good luck.
I got the same advice and it worked for me too. I suspect that this advice puts too much responsibility on the OP and she doesn't like that. Once I realized that the only thing I had to do was eat fewer calories I also realized that it completely stripped away any excuses. I can't blame the diet or demonize any macronutrient or decide that it "doesn't work for me." This is it and demanding to have your hand held, OP, will get you absolutely nowhere.
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I'm pretty sure she deleted her account, so everyone just chill out and go home.0
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The only thing that matters to weight loss is that you're in a calorie deficit. Everything else--type of diet, foods eaten, meal frequency, types of exercise--is personal preference.
This.
And OP you need to take accountability for Yourself and figure out what works for You. Weight loss is about calories, math and eating at a calorie deficit. But it's on You to run Your numbers and figure out what Your deficit will be. It's also on You to figure out what (if any) exercise You'll want to do. It's also on You to experiment with different foods to see which ones keep You feeling fuller, which ones don't, which ones aren't worth it to You for the calories etc etc.
Everyone loses weight because they eat at a calorie deficit. However, there's a lot of secondary factors that are going to unique to each individual and it's up to each of us to figure those out. No one can hold our hand and walk us through that part.
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Tydeclare44 wrote: »I'm pretty sure she deleted her account, so everyone just chill out and go home.
Aw, well that’s disappointing! And a total slap in the face to everyone who put in the time to help. Gotta love it.0 -
But she was ready.Tydeclare44 wrote: »I'm pretty sure she deleted her account, so everyone just chill out and go home.
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Tydeclare44 wrote: »I'm pretty sure she deleted her account, so everyone just chill out and go home.
Aw, well that’s disappointing! And a total slap in the face to everyone who put in the time to help. Gotta love it.
It's kind of sad cause she's probably frustrated with what she heard, when it was pretty much what she needed to hear. Everyone is different, and there's no magic cure.0 -
Hah. Maybe others like her are reading. Oh well. She's got a good start on Jillian Michaels shred.0
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If you are serious about it and are looking for some kind of guidance and you have VA benefits, look into the MOVE! program. It might be what you need to head into the right direction. They also have some PDF's on their site that will help.
http://www.move.va.gov/index.asp
Also you have received a lot of great advice and all I can add to it is to try to have an open mind when taking it. Nobody can tell you what to eat and what not to eat. It all depends on what you like and what you are able to eat. If you feel that there are certain foods that trigger a binge then don't eat them. If you are still finding that you are eating emotionally then you need to find ways to handle those emotions that don't involve food. Take a walk, pick up a new hobby, talk to a friend, anything that you can do to replace the emotional eating when you recognize it.
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I guess talking to a dietitian was too much of a bother?0
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Hell, following the simple math I gave her was too much of a bother. I guess she wanted meal plans. And probably a cook.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I guess talking to a dietitian was too much of a bother?
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Tydeclare44 wrote: »I'm pretty sure she deleted her account, so everyone just chill out and go home.
Ugh, this is what happens when it takes me awhile to finish a reply because I am looking for information for the OP.0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »
Hell, following the simple math I gave her was too much of a bother. I guess she wanted meal plans. And probably a cook.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I guess talking to a dietitian was too much of a bother?
True, but since she didn't want to take anyone's advice here and wanted a Rx a dietitian would have given her a good plan to follow, which in the end would have been the same thing only more formalized in a meal plan. I would have told her the same thing as everyone else and I gather my fat around my waist too. Just eat less, hit your macros and micros minimums and eat what you feel is best otherwise.0 -
So I missed some fun after I went to work, huh? And for some of the least offensive answers possible.0
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