No Sugar Diet

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  • mistikal13
    mistikal13 Posts: 1,457 Member
    It would be very difficult to eliminate all sugar and why would you want to anyway?
  • blb85
    blb85 Posts: 187 Member
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.

    Could you please cite the sources you used to gather this very unusual information?
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Davis1818 wrote: »
    I have not found a way to eat sugar in moderation so a couple of years ago I just cut out all candy, cakes, cookies - anything with sugar. I eat plenty of fruits and so forth. Works for me

    So you eat sugar in moderation then?
  • blb85
    blb85 Posts: 187 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.

    Could you please cite the sources you used to gather this very unusual information?

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-effects-of-sugar?page=2
    http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20637702,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/36188-sugar-bad.html

    It just goes without saying, it's not at all healthy to be adding a ton of sugar on a daily basis to your diet. I'm not saying that you shouldn't still eat fruits and dairy where sugar is a part of naturally; but we shouldn't be eating a ton of the processed sugar in our diets since its just empty calories and no added nutritional value for us. Sugar is an addiction that is not good for the long term.
  • foursirius
    foursirius Posts: 321 Member
    Davis1818 wrote: »
    I have not found a way to eat sugar in moderation so a couple of years ago I just cut out all candy, cakes, cookies - anything with sugar. I eat plenty of fruits and so forth. Works for me

    This statement is painfully ignorant. Fructose, what is in fruit, is a sugar...

  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    blb85 wrote: »
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.

    Could you please cite the sources you used to gather this very unusual information?

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-effects-of-sugar?page=2
    http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20637702,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/36188-sugar-bad.html

    It just goes without saying, it's not at all healthy to be adding a ton of sugar on a daily basis to your diet. I'm not saying that you shouldn't still eat fruits and dairy where sugar is a part of naturally; but we shouldn't be eating a ton of the processed sugar in our diets since its just empty calories and no added nutritional value for us. Sugar is an addiction that is not good for the long term.
    Including added sugar as part of a healthy overall diet and eating "tons" of sugar are two different things...
  • blb85
    blb85 Posts: 187 Member
    And yet both are unhealthy either way. So I don't get what you are trying to imply.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    And yet both are unhealthy either way. So I don't get what you are trying to imply.

    That's where the disagreement lies. Added sugar does not automatically equal unhealthy.
  • ManiacalLaugh
    ManiacalLaugh Posts: 1,048 Member
    edited June 2015
    blb85 wrote: »
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.

    Eating too much sugar doesn't cause diabetes. Seriously, this myth is getting old. Diabetes is a genetic malfunction - even obesity is raising an eye as to whether it's a probable cause of the disease (Type II only - every other form is absolutely genetic); eating too much sugar exacerbates symptoms, but you do not catch diabetes through diet.

    Not only that, but there are several types of diabetes. Tell a type I they "caught" it by eating poorly and watch their reactions.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    blb85 wrote: »
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.

    Could you please cite the sources you used to gather this very unusual information?

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-effects-of-sugar?page=2
    http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20637702,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/36188-sugar-bad.html

    It just goes without saying, it's not at all healthy to be adding a ton of sugar on a daily basis to your diet. I'm not saying that you shouldn't still eat fruits and dairy where sugar is a part of naturally; but we shouldn't be eating a ton of the processed sugar in our diets since its just empty calories and no added nutritional value for us. Sugar is an addiction that is not good for the long term.

    ""Eating sugar per se does not cause diabetes," ... http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-effects-of-sugar?page=2

    So the first link you provided counters your claim. Your second link tries to differentiate between sugars that are identical in reality. Your third link is nothing but anecdotes without a single study cited.

    When did sugar, a carb, stop being a macronutrient?
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    And yet both are unhealthy either way.

    * Citation needed
  • blb85
    blb85 Posts: 187 Member
    This is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue what I know to be true: added non-nutritional sugar is not healthy and an addiction. Some people are looking to control this addiction, which is probably what the OP was looking for in their original statement. I am not going to sit here and defend what I know to be true. If you want the facts, go ask a nutritionist.
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    edited June 2015
    davis_em wrote: »
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  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    edited June 2015
    Has any one tried a No Sugar diet and been successful? I would like to know what diet strategy you used as reference and guidance.

    Let's assume you are talking about added sugars. Ask yourself this........
    Is this for the purpose of losing weight, or is this for the rest of your life?

    If this is for the purpose of a diet....then this is a terrible idea. Yes, you can quit sugar and lose weight. BUT how will you maintain the weight you lost? Been there, done that.

    Now I am losing weight (AGAIN) while dealing with my sugar cravings (cravings do NOT equal addiction). I log my sugary snacks. No, I know I can't reach into a cookie jar "whenever." No, I can't choose sugar for a large portion of my daily calories. That's the issue I'm focusing on. Including sugar, but keeping it in check.

    If you think you can be sugar free forever.....go for it. I don't plan on saying no to every piece of birthday cake, or every suggestion for ice cream. There are thin people who eat sugar.........
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    This is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue what I know to be true: added non-nutritional sugar is not healthy and an addiction. Some people are looking to control this addiction, which is probably what the OP was looking for in their original statement. I am not going to sit here and defend what I know to be true. If you want the facts, go ask a nutritionist.

    You keep calling it an addiction while conceding that sugars from some sources are fine while demonizing others. If it were truly a sugar addiction, then all sources must get treated equally. You say to ask a nutritionist ... a title with no regulation ... fairly revealing. All of that is after the links you provided either didn't support your position or outright counter it.
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    edited June 2015
    blb85 wrote: »
    This is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue what I know to be true: added non-nutritional sugar is not healthy and an addiction. Some people are looking to control this addiction, which is probably what the OP was looking for in their original statement. I am not going to sit here and defend what I know to be true. If you want the facts, go ask a nutritionist.

    that's actually...not...true...at all...

    how do you know it is true exactly?

    you're free to make whatever claims you want, but that doesn't make them true
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    This is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue what I know to be true: added non-nutritional sugar is not healthy and an addiction. Some people are looking to control this addiction, which is probably what the OP was looking for in their original statement. I am not going to sit here and defend what I know to be true. If you want the facts, go ask a nutritionist.

    Nope... You can say something is true all you want, but that doesn't make it true....because...science.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    And yet both are unhealthy either way. So I don't get what you are trying to imply.
    One is unhealthy the other is not...

  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    This is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue what I know to be true: added non-nutritional sugar is not healthy and an addiction. Some people are looking to control this addiction, which is probably what the OP was looking for in their original statement. I am not going to sit here and defend what I know to be true. If you want the facts, go ask a nutritionist.
    This is the point... you don't know it to be true...
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    blb85 wrote: »
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.

    Could you please cite the sources you used to gather this very unusual information?

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-effects-of-sugar?page=2
    http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20637702,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/36188-sugar-bad.html

    It just goes without saying, it's not at all healthy to be adding a ton of sugar on a daily basis to your diet. I'm not saying that you shouldn't still eat fruits and dairy where sugar is a part of naturally; but we shouldn't be eating a ton of the processed sugar in our diets since its just empty calories and no added nutritional value for us. Sugar is an addiction that is not good for the long term.

    any form of sugar is simply carbs, and therefore not empty calories. the only empty calories come from alcohol.

    there is no such thing as sugar addiction. it is not physically habit-forming.

    if you stop ingesting it you will not go through withdrawals, become ill, or die.

    there is no dependency on it.

    if you nurture a predisposition for it by way of turning sugar consumption into a habit or ritual (if such a predisposition even exists), then it is merely a bad habit you have fostered. and it will take willpower (and willpower alone) to correct. this does not make it an addiction, however.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    blb85 wrote: »
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.

    Could you please cite the sources you used to gather this very unusual information?

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-effects-of-sugar?page=2
    http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20637702,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/36188-sugar-bad.html

    It just goes without saying, it's not at all healthy to be adding a ton of sugar on a daily basis to your diet. I'm not saying that you shouldn't still eat fruits and dairy where sugar is a part of naturally; but we shouldn't be eating a ton of the processed sugar in our diets since its just empty calories and no added nutritional value for us. Sugar is an addiction that is not good for the long term.

    Who is advocating eating a "ton" of added sugar? And what's wrong with it in moderation?
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    edited June 2015
    draznyth wrote: »
    blb85 wrote: »
    blb85 wrote: »
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.

    Could you please cite the sources you used to gather this very unusual information?

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-effects-of-sugar?page=2
    http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20637702,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/36188-sugar-bad.html

    It just goes without saying, it's not at all healthy to be adding a ton of sugar on a daily basis to your diet. I'm not saying that you shouldn't still eat fruits and dairy where sugar is a part of naturally; but we shouldn't be eating a ton of the processed sugar in our diets since its just empty calories and no added nutritional value for us. Sugar is an addiction that is not good for the long term.

    any form of sugar is simply carbs, and therefore not empty calories. the only empty calories come from alcohol.

    there is no such thing as sugar addiction. it is not physically habit-forming.

    if you stop ingesting it you will not go through withdrawals, become ill, or die.

    there is no dependency on it.

    if you nurture a predisposition for it by way of turning sugar consumption into a habit or ritual (if such a predisposition even exists), then it is merely a bad habit you have fostered. and it will take willpower (and willpower alone) to correct. this does not make it an addiction, however.
    ...and motivation which IMO is the missing ingredient as well as the difference between success and failure.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    This is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue what I know to be true: added non-nutritional sugar is not healthy and an addiction. Some people are looking to control this addiction, which is probably what the OP was looking for in their original statement. I am not going to sit here and defend what I know to be true. If you want the facts, go ask a nutritionist.

    There is so much wrong here it is not even funny.

    It's fine if you don't want to back up your claims with peer-reviewed research, but don't come into a thread, make sweeping blanket statements that do nothing except project your issues onto the population at large, and then get angry when people challenge your opinions that you presented as facts.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying sugar, added or otherwise, in moderation as part of an otherwise healthy lifestyle. Notice that I said "in moderation", not "a ton".
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    This is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue what I know to be true: added non-nutritional sugar is not healthy and an addiction. Some people are looking to control this addiction, which is probably what the OP was looking for in their original statement. I am not going to sit here and defend what I know to be true. If you want the facts, go ask a nutritionist.

    If you honestly feel that no amount of sugar can be consumed in a healthy way, you should probably stop eating that Ezekiel cinnamon raisin bread you're recommending in another thread...
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    draznyth wrote: »
    blb85 wrote: »
    blb85 wrote: »
    Everyone seems to be arguing the point that sugar should not be eliminated due to it not having an effect on weight loss. But what about the health benefits for some of us who need to cut down on the processed foods/sugar? I have a sugar addiction, I am well aware of it. No, I don't crave chocolate or candy, but rather I crave the sugar drinks like lattes and baked goods and other high carb/no nutrition treats/foods. And too much sugar has been proven to wreak havoc on our bodies by causing us to have digestive issues, high blood pressure or cholesterol causing heart disease or diabetes, acne, etc. It's been proven that Americans eat way more sugar than what is recommended, obviously sugar is natural in some healthy food; but we are talking more about the unhealthy sugar that we need to eliminate from our systems for health reasons. Maybe for us who know we have to put a stop to this, is why we want to know how people have managed to turn their diets around by either cutting down or eliminating sugar from their daily life.

    Could you please cite the sources you used to gather this very unusual information?

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-effects-of-sugar?page=2
    http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20637702,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/36188-sugar-bad.html

    It just goes without saying, it's not at all healthy to be adding a ton of sugar on a daily basis to your diet. I'm not saying that you shouldn't still eat fruits and dairy where sugar is a part of naturally; but we shouldn't be eating a ton of the processed sugar in our diets since its just empty calories and no added nutritional value for us. Sugar is an addiction that is not good for the long term.

    any form of sugar is simply carbs, and therefore not empty calories. the only empty calories come from alcohol.

    there is no such thing as sugar addiction. it is not physically habit-forming.

    if you stop ingesting it you will not go through withdrawals, become ill, or die.

    there is no dependency on it.

    if you nurture a predisposition for it by way of turning sugar consumption into a habit or ritual (if such a predisposition even exists), then it is merely a bad habit you have fostered. and it will take willpower (and willpower alone) to correct. this does not make it an addiction, however.
    ...and motivation which IMO is the missing ingredient as well as the difference between success and failure.

    word bro def a good point!
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    blb85 wrote: »
    This is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue what I know to be true: added non-nutritional sugar is not healthy and an addiction. Some people are looking to control this addiction, which is probably what the OP was looking for in their original statement. I am not going to sit here and defend what I know to be true. If you want the facts, go ask a nutritionist.

    If you honestly feel that no amount of sugar can be consumed in a healthy way, you should probably stop eating that Ezekiel cinnamon raisin bread you're recommending in another thread...

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  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    blb85 wrote: »
    This is ridiculous. I'm not going to argue what I know to be true: added non-nutritional sugar is not healthy and an addiction. Some people are looking to control this addiction, which is probably what the OP was looking for in their original statement. I am not going to sit here and defend what I know to be true. If you want the facts, go ask a nutritionist.

    Perhaps you should be the one speaking to a registered dietitian (you can be certified as a nutritionist from taking a 1 week course online, dietitian requires a college degree).

    If you know it to be true, then you would also know of peer-reviewed, creditable clinical studies to back up for knowledge on the facts.

    But there aren't any of those, so what you know are actually just theories and opinions.
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