Muscle weighs more than fat!

ScatteredThoughts

It is all so much clearer to me now.

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Contrarian

I thought a pound was a pound? Yeah Muscle is more dense then fat but 1 pound of fat weighs the same as 1 pound of muscle.

Do you honestly think that there are many, many people who don't understand that pounds are a unit of measurement, and don't realise that 1 pound of anything weighs more or less than 1 pound of anything else?

I prefer to think that the entire rest of the world is not made up of complete morons (in spite of disturbing evidence that contradicts my opinion) and simply assume that "by volume" is implied.

So I'm a moron for stating the facts? These threads are retarded seriously, if everyone knows this why do they post these things? And I'm the moron! Mature!!! *rolling eyes here*

I wasn't calling you a moron. I was speaking about the abundance of dumb people I encounter every day.

cdjs77

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LiftAllThePizzas

Gold costs more than silver.

Nuh-uh, a dollar of gold costs as much as a dollar of silver.

Durrrrrrr.

phjorg1

the problem is the context in how people reply. where they really do think lbs of muscle is more then lbs of fat. when someone says the started lifting and gain weight, but know its ok because 'muscle weighs more than fat'.... well, how can you take them seriously.

_Zardoz_

So try to be patient when people say this statement - although not exactly correct, we all know what they mean!

The thing is they don't know what they mean. If you ignore totally incorrect statements you just reinforce ignorance. Personally i dont wish to do that. People seem to missing the point of when the statement is used and the context its used in that is why people are corrected

There also seems to be this strange idea that because someone puts on a couple of pounds in a week they have suddenly managed to create two extra pounds of muscle. Sorry to burst everyones bubble but that much muscle is not created that quickly.

I will continue to correct people if they get there facts incorrect in the context they are trying to use a statement

_Zardoz_

Gold costs more than silver.

Nuh-uh, a dollar of gold costs as much as a dollar of silver.

Durrrrrrr.

The point seems to have flown over your head

prdavies1949

Arggggggggggggggggh!!!!!!!

LiftAllThePizzas

Gold costs more than silver.

Nuh-uh, a dollar of gold costs as much as a dollar of silver.

Durrrrrrr.

The point seems to have flown over your head

My sarcasm seems to have flown over your head.

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TheFitHooker

There is a difference from "muscle weighs more than fat" and "a pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat."

Like I said, 1 pound of fat weighs the same as 1 pound of muscle, now a hand full of fat verses a hand full of muscle will be different.

if i said to you, "a brick weighs more than a feather" would you call me a liar and say, "no you're wrong, a pound of brick weighs the same as a pound of fat?"

dang cracker girl you're so fine, what's your name?

honestly I would say to you 1 brick does weigh more then 1 feather. But 1 pound of a brick weighs the same as 1 pound of feathers. But that is just how I literally think.

aakaakaak

Muscle has greater DENSITY than fat.

Muscle density is 1.06 g/ml (grams per milliliter) and fat density is (about) 0.9 g/ml. Thus, one liter of muscle would weight 1.06 kg (2.3lb) and one liter of fat would weight 0.9 kg (1.98lb). In other words, muscle is about 18% denser than fat.

Muscle density: http://biomed.gerontologyjournals.org/cgi/content/full/56/5/B191#R23
Fat density: http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1463-1326.2004.00410.x

Diamond05

I thought a pound was a pound? Yeah Muscle is more dense then fat but 1 pound of fat weighs the same as 1 pound of muscle.

Do you honestly think that there are many, many people who don't understand that pounds are a unit of measurement, and don't realise that 1 pound of anything weighs more or less than 1 pound of anything else?

I prefer to think that the entire rest of the world is not made up of complete morons (in spite of disturbing evidence that contradicts my opinion) and simply assume that "by volume" is implied.

You could have at least taken the time to read because the first post was about a pound of muscle being smaller than a pound of fat...... not that it was weighing more....

So I'm a moron for stating the facts? These threads are retarded seriously, if everyone knows this why do they post these things? And I'm the moron! Mature!!! *rolling eyes here*

bio01979

So try to be patient when people say this statement - although not exactly correct, we all know what they mean!

The thing is they don't know what they mean. If you ignore totally incorrect statements you just reinforce ignorance. Personally i dont wish to do that. People seem to missing the point of when the statement is used and the context its used in that is why people are corrected

There also seems to be this strange idea that because someone puts on a couple of pounds in a week they have suddenly managed to create two extra pounds of muscle. Sorry to burst everyones bubble but that much muscle is not created that quickly.

I will continue to correct people if they get there facts incorrect in the context they are trying to use a statement

99% of the time when I see these "helpful corrections" they read like this:

"GAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! 1 pound of muscle is the same as a pound of fat!!!! A POUND IS A POUND!!!!"

no explanation or anything how is that remotely helpful to the person? They haven't been corrected with useful information they have just rudely been pretty much called an idiot because they worded something wrong or omitted the generally implied "by volume"

lithezebra

It's not as exaggerated as the images though. Fat doesn't take up as much more space as people make it seem.

I've read that the difference about 18%, significant, but not as dramatic as the pictures.

Sparlingo

Elephants weigh more than mice.

This statement is understood to be true because there is an implied unit or volume (i.e. one mouse vs. one elephant). When people say muscle weighs more than fat, there is an implied volume as well -- the implication is that the muscle and fat in question would occupy the same volume.

Saying muscle is more dense than fat, while more correct, is also harder to process. (One has to figure out how the statement applies to a person's scale weight).

So I really don't mind when people say muscle weighs more than fat. I understand what they mean .


... mostly I just felt left out of the deceased horse beating session. Sounded like fun.

lithezebra

I don't care if people say that muscle weighs more than fat, although having been terrorized by an autocratic chemistry professor who liked to trick us into saying stupid things and then humiliate us for it, I will never ever make that mistake again. It seems like a silly thing to jump on unless you're trying to teach people what "density" is, but there's always someone who needs to be right.

nas061

The picture of 5lb fat versus 5lb muscle is not right (in fact a fake). It's a gross exaggeration of the difference.

bio01979

I don't care if people say that muscle weighs more than fat, although having been terrorized by an autocratic chemistry professor who liked to trick us into saying stupid things and then humiliate us for it, I will never ever make that mistake again. It seems like a silly thing to jump on unless you're trying to teach people what "density" is, but there's always someone who needs to be right.

luckyshilling

I don't care if people say that muscle weighs more than fat, although having been terrorized by an autocratic chemistry professor who liked to trick us into saying stupid things and then humiliate us for it, I will never ever make that mistake again. It seems like a silly thing to jump on unless you're trying to teach people what "density" is, but there's always someone who needs to be right.

Were we in the same class?

55in13

the problem is the context in how people reply. where they really do think lbs of muscle is more then lbs of fat. when someone says the started lifting and gain weight, but know its ok because 'muscle weighs more than fat'.... well, how can you take them seriously.

Because it is incredibly obvious they are talking about relative weight for the same volume? When people hit the weight room and start gaining muscle, I try not to start arguments by picking nits with what they say...

mjl54

The picture of 5lb fat versus 5lb muscle is not right (in fact a fake). It's a gross exaggeration of the difference.

SOURCE?

LiftAllThePizzas

the problem is the context in how people reply. where they really do think lbs of muscle is more then lbs of fat. when someone says the started lifting and gain weight, but know its ok because 'muscle weighs more than fat'.... well, how can you take them seriously.

The problem with that statement has nothing to do with the relative density of fat and muscle, but that they have most likely gained water from inflammation rather than 5 pounds of muscle in a week.

So they should really be saying "water weighs more than fat." :laugh:

aakaakaak

The picture of 5lb fat versus 5lb muscle is not right (in fact a fake). It's a gross exaggeration of the difference.

SOURCE?

Mathematically, muscle is 18% denser than fat, not the "much greater than 50%" the image suggests.

Source:
Muscle density 1.06g/ml: http://biomed.gerontologyjournals.org/cgi/content/full/56/5/B191#R23
Fat density 0.9g/ml: http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1463-1326.2004.00410.x

stealthq

the problem is the context in how people reply. where they really do think lbs of muscle is more then lbs of fat. when someone says the started lifting and gain weight, but know its ok because 'muscle weighs more than fat'.... well, how can you take them seriously.

Because it is incredibly obvious they are talking about relative weight for the same volume? When people hit the weight room and start gaining muscle, I try not to start arguments by picking nits with what they say...

*snort*

You must deal with different people on a daily basis than I do. I have learned - when someone says something that is obviously incorrect, odds are they meant it exactly as it left their mouth and did not misspeak. It's no different on the internet, except that the dumb thing someone typed last month still lives on and is taken by other people for fact. And so the cycle continues ... ;P