What counts as water...

mom2kpr
mom2kpr Posts: 348 Member
edited November 20 in Health and Weight Loss
I see this question asked often. Can you count stuff other the pure water towards your daily intake? Yes
Here is a list of how much water is in other beverages/foods.
100% - water (obviously), unflavored seltzer water, plain tea
95% - 99% diet soft drinks, sugar free gelatin, clear broth, celery, cucumber, lettuce, summer squash, black coffee
90% - 94% sports drinks, grapefruit, strawberries, broccoli, tomatoes
80% - 89% sugar sweetened soft drinks, milk, yogurt, egg whites, fruit juice, low fat cottage cheese, cooked oatmeal, apple, carrot
60% - 79% low calorie mayo, instant pudding, lean steak, pork chop, baked potato, cooked rice
40% - 59% sausage, chicken, macaroni and cheese, diet margarine

Obviously most of these have calories, a few have added sugar, but if they fit with your daily goals use them to add variety to your day.

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  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    So sausages, Mac and cheese, pork chops and baked potatoes etc are considered a drink?
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    All those things are correct, but how is it useful? A person's water daily water requirements are easy to obtain with a few glasses worth. Other (non-alcoholic) drinks count, too. Trying to track water consumption in the contents of food is overthinking the problem.
  • amy_kee
    amy_kee Posts: 694 Member
    I asked a RD what counted as water in your meal plan. She said water and water with powered drink mixes in it, as long as there was no caffeine in the powered drink mixes. So, I"m sticking with what the RD said. I agree that tracking water content in food is being overly obsessive and agree that it's over thinking the question.
  • mom2kpr
    mom2kpr Posts: 348 Member
    elphie - of course they are not drinks, but they do provide hydration

    bpetrosky - you may not have a problem getting water in your day, but I see many posts of people saying they don't like plain water and what are the alternatives, so I provided some alternatives

    may_kee - I am currently going to school to become a RD and this is directly from my nutrition textbook, so this list is what they are currently teaching RD's.
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    But again, how is this applied practically? Are you giving these people a target of how much water (or water substitute) to get, and they're expected to determine the water content of sausage to help reach that goal?

    Considering how awash we are in over-complicated diet advice about calories and macronutrients alone, does it help to over-complicate information about getting enough water?
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    amy_kee wrote: »
    I asked a RD what counted as water in your meal plan. She said water and water with powered drink mixes in it, as long as there was no caffeine in the powered drink mixes. So, I"m sticking with what the RD said. I agree that tracking water content in food is being overly obsessive and agree that it's over thinking the question.

    The diuretic effects of caffeine are negligible.... I count all liquid (with the exception of alcohol, but I drink that so rarely as it is..)
  • mom2kpr
    mom2kpr Posts: 348 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    But again, how is this applied practically? Are you giving these people a target of how much water (or water substitute) to get, and they're expected to determine the water content of sausage to help reach that goal?

    Considering how awash we are in over-complicated diet advice about calories and macronutrients alone, does it help to over-complicate information about getting enough water?

    I think everyone else is over complicating it. Say your goal is 8 glasses of water, but after 6 your bored with water. Think about what you else you've had. I had coffee or tea for breakfast - easy enough - I used 8 oz of water. Then I had strawberries for a snack and a salad with some of the vegetables and milk for lunch. No I don't know the exact oz of water, but I can be pretty safe in saying that I was well hydrated for the day & I don't need to obsess over drinking 8 glasses of plain water. Personally I drink 65 - 90 oz a day, about 30 oz with flavoring, plus my coffee and whatever else may on this list, but I've noticed that some people insist they HAVE to have 8 glasses of pure water a day - which simply isn't true.
  • Desert_flower3
    Desert_flower3 Posts: 58 Member
    I was fine till I read pork chops and sausage
  • mom2kpr
    mom2kpr Posts: 348 Member
    I was fine till I read pork chops and sausage

    I agree, I find some of these a little odd, but it's from my book from a class in nutrition I'm currently taking.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    I drink 6 or 7 of fluids each day,
    The 8 cups a day is a "rule" that someone made up and others repeated it often so enough that every eventually treated as If it were a real rule
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    I'd ask for a refund because if they are teaching that sausages and pork chops count as fluid intake, there is something not right lol. Almost all food has water in it, so why single these out?
  • faithyang
    faithyang Posts: 297 Member
    Vodka. First thing that came to mind. :wink:
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    But again, how is this applied practically?

    Because it reduces the water requirement to "if you're thirsty, drink".

  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    I was fine till I read pork chops and sausage

    Muscle is mostly water.
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    faithyang wrote: »
    Vodka. First thing that came to mind. :wink:

    Vodka in the US is typically 40% ABV, so the remaining 60% is pretty much water....I wouldn't suggest that as a water substitute though.

    Bud light, I would suggest as a water substitute.
  • bbontheb
    bbontheb Posts: 718 Member
    I actually like it when someone posts info like this. I hate water for the most part but I also dislike other cold beverages. I do drink like 5 big cups of tea a day now and have always wondered how much "water" you are getting from other foods to keep hydrated. Thanks OP!
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    Everyone has their own definition. To me, water is water, juice is juice, soda is soda and grapes are grapes.

    But you can count anything you want! It's your diary, your body and your weight loss journey. :)
  • amy_kee
    amy_kee Posts: 694 Member
    I agree that 64 oz day is just a guide. For example, people in certain climates even need more per day. I realize you have a nice, new text book and you value it highly. It's just something that people decided was good at the time the text was written. I still disagree with you and will continue to disagree. The RD that helped me was practical and didn't try to complicate things.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    amy_kee wrote: »
    I agree that 64 oz day is just a guide. For example, people in certain climates even need more per day. I realize you have a nice, new text book and you value it highly. It's just something that people decided was good at the time the text was written. I still disagree with you and will continue to disagree. The RD that helped me was practical and didn't try to complicate things.

    I think your RD is merely simplifying things

    It's true that the whole you must drink x amount is fallacious. We get hydrated by foods as well as drink. Water is easy cos it's zero calories but every drink and food counts

    Drink if you're thirsty, check your urine colour is a good enough guide to adequate hydration

  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    You really don't even need to look at your urine to see if you should drink.

    Unless you have some medical or psychological condition that affects your sense of thirst, you can trust your thirst to guide you. Keep water around, take a drink when you feel like it.

    It really is that easy. :)
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Not when thirst can be misunderstood as hunger cues
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  • mom2kpr
    mom2kpr Posts: 348 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    I'd ask for a refund because if they are teaching that sausages and pork chops count as fluid intake, there is something not right lol. Almost all food has water in it, so why single these out?

    This is not a comprehensive list. Obviously there are other foods that have high water content - melons for example.
  • mom2kpr
    mom2kpr Posts: 348 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    amy_kee wrote: »
    I agree that 64 oz day is just a guide. For example, people in certain climates even need more per day. I realize you have a nice, new text book and you value it highly. It's just something that people decided was good at the time the text was written. I still disagree with you and will continue to disagree. The RD that helped me was practical and didn't try to complicate things.

    I think your RD is merely simplifying things

    It's true that the whole you must drink x amount is fallacious. We get hydrated by foods as well as drink. Water is easy cos it's zero calories but every drink and food counts

    Drink if you're thirsty, check your urine colour is a good enough guide to adequate hydration

    This.
  • mom2kpr
    mom2kpr Posts: 348 Member
    bbontheb wrote: »
    I actually like it when someone posts info like this. I hate water for the most part but I also dislike other cold beverages. I do drink like 5 big cups of tea a day now and have always wondered how much "water" you are getting from other foods to keep hydrated. Thanks OP!

    Your welcome.
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    i count water as water. i guess a powedered mix (though i dont use them) would count.

    anything else is ...what it is. soda is soda. coffee is coffee. food is food.

    do we get hydration from other sources? of course. but that doesnt mean it should be logged as WATER.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    i count water as water. i guess a powedered mix (though i dont use them) would count. anything else is ...what it is. soda is soda. coffee is coffee. food is food.

    do we get hydration from other sources? of course. but that doesnt mean it should be logged as WATER.

    Well, the good news is you can log it any way you like, because it really doesn't matter. :drinker:
  • Cthululululu
    Cthululululu Posts: 32 Member
    From what I've always been told, if you're thirsty you're in the beginning of dehydration.
    Drink water consistently throughout the day to avoid that.

    Then again, I also live in Florida. Constant hydration or heatstroke are my options.
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,647 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    i count water as water. i guess a powedered mix (though i dont use them) would count. anything else is ...what it is. soda is soda. coffee is coffee. food is food.

    do we get hydration from other sources? of course. but that doesnt mean it should be logged as WATER.

    Well, the good news is you can log it any way you like, because it really doesn't matter. :drinker:

    He speaks the truth.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    edited June 2015
    I dont think everyone else is overcomplicating, % overcomplicate.

    Simply look at the colour of your urine to see if you are hydrated or not. Its not hard otherwise about 2l or 1.6l of fluids as a general guidleline that includes things other than water (excluding alcohol) is cool. If you exercise you need more. Tbh OP I thought you were overcomplicating it.
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