Any benefit to casein (for someone like me)?
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For the record I have no proof either way as to whether or not casein is a carcinogen. I do believe in moderation and casein hasn't killed me yet. In fact, I'm having it for breakfast tomorrow (protein mug cake mmmmm).
To the OP, if you can handle lactaid milk, I think you can handle casein (they are two different proteins found in milk), but don't take my word for it. I am not a doctor. Maybe look for some other alternatives. There's pea protein, egg protein, hemp protein, and Trutein makes a vegan protein powder. Not sure what's in it, but it's worth a look for you perhaps.
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I like Garden of Life Raw fit. Its a variety of plant based proteins. If you need more protein and want to get it from a powder, this one is pretty good if you want to avoid casein.0
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demoiselle2014 wrote: »Is soy protein alone going to cut it?
There is nothing wrong with soy, but you can also add protein to your diet in other ways. You're probably going to get tired of soy as the months tick off.demoiselle2014 wrote: »Is there a benefit to casein for someone like me? Is it worth a possible belly-ache due to the lactose intolerance?
Casein is fine, but in your case you aren't likely to see a benefit versus whey if that's what your asking. It's possible that either casein or whey will cause issues in lactose intolerant people, because the processing doesn't completely remove all traces of lactose. You will have to try it and see if you can tolerate it.
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FoxyLifter wrote: »To the OP, if you can handle lactaid milk, I think you can handle casein (they are two different proteins found in milk), but don't take my word for it. I am not a doctor. Maybe look for some other alternatives. There's pea protein, egg protein, hemp protein, and Trutein makes a vegan protein powder. Not sure what's in it, but it's worth a look for you perhaps.
Lactose intolerance has to do with lactose, the sugar in milk. Casein and Whey can both affect people with lactose intolerance because the process to make them doesn't remove all lactose. Hydrolized whey or casein generally don't affect lactose intolerance because the process used to make them doesn't leave enough lactose in the product.0 -
I can't digest casein (milk protein) properly, so I try to avoid it. It causes me all sorts of intestinal problems. I'm sure some people could benefit from it, I'm just not one of them. I use a complete pea protein blend.0
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whodidntante wrote: »demoiselle2014 wrote: »Is soy protein alone going to cut it?
There is nothing wrong with soy, but you can also add protein to your diet in other ways. You're probably going to get tired of soy as the months tick off.demoiselle2014 wrote: »Is there a benefit to casein for someone like me? Is it worth a possible belly-ache due to the lactose intolerance?
Casein is fine, but in your case you aren't likely to see a benefit versus whey if that's what your asking. It's possible that either casein or whey will cause issues in lactose intolerant people, because the processing doesn't completely remove all traces of lactose. You will have to try it and see if you can tolerate it.
I avoid soy as I am on tamoxifen. Soy products may or may not increase your risk of cancer http://www.breastcancer.org/tips/nutrition/reduce_risk/foods/soy . My husband drinks protein shakes because he had stomach stapling. I would recommend looking at stats on GNC (not a plug, really). They have a good variety to choose from and you most likely will find something to suit your needs and tastes. http://www.gnc.com/Protein/category.jsp?categoryId=35931870 -
FoxyLifter wrote: »To the OP, if you can handle lactaid milk, I think you can handle casein (they are two different proteins found in milk), but don't take my word for it. I am not a doctor. Maybe look for some other alternatives. There's pea protein, egg protein, hemp protein, and Trutein makes a vegan protein powder. Not sure what's in it, but it's worth a look for you perhaps.
Lactose intolerance has to do with lactose, the sugar in milk. Casein and Whey can both affect people with lactose intolerance because the process to make them doesn't remove all lactose. Hydrolized whey or casein generally don't affect lactose intolerance because the process used to make them doesn't leave enough lactose in the product.
Interesting. I've have a friend who has a child that's lactose intolerant so that was I was going off of. Sounds like there's more to the story than what I thought. Hydrolized is the key, is what you're saying then, yes?
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FoxyLifter wrote: »FoxyLifter wrote: »To the OP, if you can handle lactaid milk, I think you can handle casein (they are two different proteins found in milk), but don't take my word for it. I am not a doctor. Maybe look for some other alternatives. There's pea protein, egg protein, hemp protein, and Trutein makes a vegan protein powder. Not sure what's in it, but it's worth a look for you perhaps.
Lactose intolerance has to do with lactose, the sugar in milk. Casein and Whey can both affect people with lactose intolerance because the process to make them doesn't remove all lactose. Hydrolized whey or casein generally don't affect lactose intolerance because the process used to make them doesn't leave enough lactose in the product.
Interesting. I've have a friend who has a child that's lactose intolerant so that was I was going off of. Sounds like there's more to the story than what I thought. Hydrolized is the key, is what you're saying then, yes?
Hydrolyzed protein has been treated in what I believe is an acid bath, similar to going through the stomach. The process leaves a lot of protein broken down to just individual amino acids. The amount of lactose that survives the process, if any, is too little to upset most people that are lactose intolerant.0 -
Have you considered hemp or pea protein powders? Trader Joes makes a great hemp one. It is very kind to my digestive system.0
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whodidntante wrote: »demoiselle2014 wrote: »Is soy protein alone going to cut it?
There is nothing wrong with soy, but you can also add protein to your diet in other ways. You're probably going to get tired of soy as the months tick off.demoiselle2014 wrote: »Is there a benefit to casein for someone like me? Is it worth a possible belly-ache due to the lactose intolerance?
Casein is fine, but in your case you aren't likely to see a benefit versus whey if that's what your asking. It's possible that either casein or whey will cause issues in lactose intolerant people, because the processing doesn't completely remove all traces of lactose. You will have to try it and see if you can tolerate it.
Thank you! I am also adding protein back into my diet via additional meat and fish at some mealtimes. I am sure that I would get bored of protein shakes if that were the only way I were trying to increase my protein intake.
It sounds to me like I'm not likely to get a significant benefit from casein that would make the possible bellyaches/remembering to take lactase worthwhile for me at this time. Thank you everyone for your feedback. It has been very helpful to me.0 -
FoxyLifter wrote: »FoxyLifter wrote: »To the OP, if you can handle lactaid milk, I think you can handle casein (they are two different proteins found in milk), but don't take my word for it. I am not a doctor. Maybe look for some other alternatives. There's pea protein, egg protein, hemp protein, and Trutein makes a vegan protein powder. Not sure what's in it, but it's worth a look for you perhaps.
Lactose intolerance has to do with lactose, the sugar in milk. Casein and Whey can both affect people with lactose intolerance because the process to make them doesn't remove all lactose. Hydrolized whey or casein generally don't affect lactose intolerance because the process used to make them doesn't leave enough lactose in the product.
Interesting. I've have a friend who has a child that's lactose intolerant so that was I was going off of. Sounds like there's more to the story than what I thought. Hydrolized is the key, is what you're saying then, yes?
Different people do react in different ways. I am only somewhat lactose intolerant, and I do eat things like pizza and cheese without taking lactase if I don't have it on me or forget. Unfortunately, sometimes that means experiencing some discomfort (and I can't predict which days it'll hit me hard!). I do fine with some milk products like kefir, yogurt, some cheeses. But I only want to add a new milk product to my diet if I love love love the taste or expect to get a significant health benefit from it.0 -
Have you considered hemp or pea protein powders? Trader Joes makes a great hemp one. It is very kind to my digestive system.
I might try them. My limited amount of research suggested that only whey and soy proteins had the full amino acid profile that I'd ideally like to get. But I may get bored of soy at some point and want to add a bit of variety.
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demoiselle2014 wrote: »FoxyLifter wrote: »FoxyLifter wrote: »To the OP, if you can handle lactaid milk, I think you can handle casein (they are two different proteins found in milk), but don't take my word for it. I am not a doctor. Maybe look for some other alternatives. There's pea protein, egg protein, hemp protein, and Trutein makes a vegan protein powder. Not sure what's in it, but it's worth a look for you perhaps.
Lactose intolerance has to do with lactose, the sugar in milk. Casein and Whey can both affect people with lactose intolerance because the process to make them doesn't remove all lactose. Hydrolized whey or casein generally don't affect lactose intolerance because the process used to make them doesn't leave enough lactose in the product.
Interesting. I've have a friend who has a child that's lactose intolerant so that was I was going off of. Sounds like there's more to the story than what I thought. Hydrolized is the key, is what you're saying then, yes?
Different people do react in different ways. I am only somewhat lactose intolerant, and I do eat things like pizza and cheese without taking lactase if I don't have it on me or forget. Unfortunately, sometimes that means experiencing some discomfort (and I can't predict which days it'll hit me hard!). I do fine with some milk products like kefir, yogurt, some cheeses. But I only want to add a new milk product to my diet if I love love love the taste or expect to get a significant health benefit from it.
"Significant health benefit". Well, that is subjective. It's a protein source with calcium. Does that help me meet a macro and a micro? You betcha! I find it beneficial and tasty. Is it a requirement to eat in order to be healthy? No way! You can find that macro and micro from plenty of other sources. Find the foods that agree with your body to help you meet your macro and micro minimums and fill the rest of your calories with whatever other foods you want (that also don't hurt your tummy). It's that simple*.
*Simple, but not always easy. The concept is simple/simpler than what most people think, but it's not always easy. One must practice willpower and find the foods that help them feel satiated and not deprived. For example, I find that I adhere best to my calorie goal if concentrate on meeting my protein, fat and micro minimums throughout the bulk of the day and then, at the end of the day, I have a couple hundred calories left over for a decadent treat (today will be a mini DQ blizzard, tomorrow I may have some chocolate or Oreos). I hope this all makes sense. 0
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