Protein level

baby05phat
baby05phat Posts: 71 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
has the daily protein you need decreased for anyone else? Before I never met my protein goal and now I'm over it a lot but eat kinda the same

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  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    I look as protein as a minimum.
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    baby05phat wrote: »
    has the daily protein you need decreased for anyone else? Before I never met my protein goal and now I'm over it a lot but eat kinda the same

    MFP sets the macros as a percentage of your calorie goal. As you lose weight and your calorie target drops, the total grams of each macro decrease in proportion.

    So if you are still portioning your protein servings the same size, it makes sense that you will reach your protein macro more easily.


  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Protein is supposed to be .8 grams per pound. In other words, me being a 139 pounds, I am supposed to get about 112 grams of protein a day. I am usually over this amount.
  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Protein is supposed to be .8 grams per pound. In other words, me being a 139 pounds, I am supposed to get about 112 grams of protein a day. I am usually over this amount.
    That's works if you are close to your ideal weight. I weigh about twice what you weigh and I certainly don't need or want over 200 grams of protein a day. My kidneys couldn't handle that.

    There are several different recommendations floating around. I've heard 0.8 to 1 gram per pound of LBM (lean body mass). The US-RDA for protein is 10 to 35% of calories from protein with a minimum of 46 grams for women and 56 grams for men.

    People who are trying to build muscle need a bit more protein but the default 20% of daily calories from protein that MFP has is 75 grams for 1500 calories and that is in line with the recommendations I've read.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Protein is supposed to be .8 grams per pound. In other words, me being a 139 pounds, I am supposed to get about 112 grams of protein a day. I am usually over this amount.
    That's works if you are close to your ideal weight. I weigh about twice what you weigh and I certainly don't need or want over 200 grams of protein a day. My kidneys couldn't handle that.

    There are several different recommendations floating around. I've heard 0.8 to 1 gram per pound of LBM (lean body mass). The US-RDA for protein is 10 to 35% of calories from protein with a minimum of 46 grams for women and 56 grams for men.

    People who are trying to build muscle need a bit more protein but the default 20% of daily calories from protein that MFP has is 75 grams for 1500 calories and that is in line with the recommendations I've read.

    Thank you for the clarification. I am working on muscle right now, so that's why I have higher protein.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Protein is supposed to be .8 grams per pound. In other words, me being a 139 pounds, I am supposed to get about 112 grams of protein a day. I am usually over this amount.
    That's works if you are close to your ideal weight. I weigh about twice what you weigh and I certainly don't need or want over 200 grams of protein a day. My kidneys couldn't handle that.

    There are several different recommendations floating around. I've heard 0.8 to 1 gram per pound of LBM (lean body mass). The US-RDA for protein is 10 to 35% of calories from protein with a minimum of 46 grams for women and 56 grams for men.

    People who are trying to build muscle need a bit more protein but the default 20% of daily calories from protein that MFP has is 75 grams for 1500 calories and that is in line with the recommendations I've read.
    Unless you have some kind of kidney problem, you shouldn't have an issue eating 200 grams.
  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Unless you have some kind of kidney problem, you shouldn't have an issue eating 200 grams.
    Google "too much protein" and you'll see several potential health problems.

    Do you need protein powders?
    But there’s a big caveat, Lewin adds: it doesn’t take that much protein to achieve those goals. Most Americans already get about 15% of their daily calories in protein. To build a pound of muscle, Lewin explains, the body needs between 10 and 14 additional grams of protein per day.

    “That’s not really that much. Some of these powders have 80 grams of protein per serving. You don’t need that. All your body is going to do is break it down for energy. And too much protein can be hard on your kidneys and your liver.”
    Protein Math

    So how can you tell if you’re already getting enough protein? Do the math.

    Recreational athletes need 0.5-0.75 grams of protein daily for every per pound of body weight
    Competitive athletes need 0.6-0.9 grams per pound
    Teenage athletes need 0.8-0.9 grams per pound
    Athletes building muscle mass need 0.7-0.9 grams per pound

    The maximum amount of protein that most adults can use per day is 0.9 grams per pound of body weight.

    So if you’re an adult athlete who wants to build muscle mass, and you weigh about 175 pounds, the most protein you would need per day is 157.5 grams.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    Unless you have some kind of kidney problem, you shouldn't have an issue eating 200 grams.
    Google "too much protein" and you'll see several potential health problems.

    Do you need protein powders?
    But there’s a big caveat, Lewin adds: it doesn’t take that much protein to achieve those goals. Most Americans already get about 15% of their daily calories in protein. To build a pound of muscle, Lewin explains, the body needs between 10 and 14 additional grams of protein per day.

    “That’s not really that much. Some of these powders have 80 grams of protein per serving. You don’t need that. All your body is going to do is break it down for energy. And too much protein can be hard on your kidneys and your liver.”
    Protein Math

    So how can you tell if you’re already getting enough protein? Do the math.

    Recreational athletes need 0.5-0.75 grams of protein daily for every per pound of body weight
    Competitive athletes need 0.6-0.9 grams per pound
    Teenage athletes need 0.8-0.9 grams per pound
    Athletes building muscle mass need 0.7-0.9 grams per pound

    The maximum amount of protein that most adults can use per day is 0.9 grams per pound of body weight.

    So if you’re an adult athlete who wants to build muscle mass, and you weigh about 175 pounds, the most protein you would need per day is 157.5 grams.
    I can Google Lizard-Men run the world and get results. It doesn't make them true. I've yet to hear of any evidence of protein harming kidneys in people with normal kidney function.
    http://examine.com/faq/can-eating-too-much-protein-be-bad-for-you
    That's full of studies on the stuff that old Lewin didn't seem to bother with when just coming up with an opinion, or repeating old worries based on protein's affect on people with kidney damage.
  • Erfw7471
    Erfw7471 Posts: 242 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    seska422 wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    Unless you have some kind of kidney problem, you shouldn't have an issue eating 200 grams.
    Google "too much protein" and you'll see several potential health problems.

    Do you need protein powders?
    But there’s a big caveat, Lewin adds: it doesn’t take that much protein to achieve those goals. Most Americans already get about 15% of their daily calories in protein. To build a pound of muscle, Lewin explains, the body needs between 10 and 14 additional grams of protein per day.

    “That’s not really that much. Some of these powders have 80 grams of protein per serving. You don’t need that. All your body is going to do is break it down for energy. And too much protein can be hard on your kidneys and your liver.”
    Protein Math

    So how can you tell if you’re already getting enough protein? Do the math.

    Recreational athletes need 0.5-0.75 grams of protein daily for every per pound of body weight
    Competitive athletes need 0.6-0.9 grams per pound
    Teenage athletes need 0.8-0.9 grams per pound
    Athletes building muscle mass need 0.7-0.9 grams per pound

    The maximum amount of protein that most adults can use per day is 0.9 grams per pound of body weight.

    So if you’re an adult athlete who wants to build muscle mass, and you weigh about 175 pounds, the most protein you would need per day is 157.5 grams.
    I can Google Lizard-Men run the world and get results. It doesn't make them true. I've yet to hear of any evidence of protein harming kidneys in people with normal kidney function.
    http://examine.com/faq/can-eating-too-much-protein-be-bad-for-you
    That's full of studies on the stuff that old Lewin didn't seem to bother with when just coming up with an opinion, or repeating old worries based on protein's affect on people with kidney damage.

    This.

    My mother had total renal failure in 2004 due to chemo and has been on dialysis since. I've had this conversation with her nephrologist before and he indeed confirms that higher protein does NOT do kidney damage to healthy kidneys. Already damaged kidneys (do to injury or trauma, hbp, chemo) are a different story. We didn't discuss a "maximum" because I asked about my specific amount, which averages 90-120g a day. I wish I still had links to the studies about this, they're long gone on previous PC.
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    mfp tells me 109 a day but i rarely, if ever, meet it. :/
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Protein is supposed to be .8 grams per pound. In other words, me being a 139 pounds, I am supposed to get about 112 grams of protein a day. I am usually over this amount.
    That's works if you are close to your ideal weight. I weigh about twice what you weigh and I certainly don't need or want over 200 grams of protein a day. My kidneys couldn't handle that.

    There are several different recommendations floating around. I've heard 0.8 to 1 gram per pound of LBM (lean body mass). The US-RDA for protein is 10 to 35% of calories from protein with a minimum of 46 grams for women and 56 grams for men.

    People who are trying to build muscle need a bit more protein but the default 20% of daily calories from protein that MFP has is 75 grams for 1500 calories and that is in line with the recommendations I've read.

    The bolded part is not valid.

    0.8 grams is to help maintain LBM while losing weight.

    Protein does not harm healthy kidneys.

    People who are building muscle can use more but they are also doing a progressive load lifting program.

    MFP gives RDA mins for all macros.

    I have mine set at 113 grams 0.8 per lb of weight.
  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    edited June 2015
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    seska422 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Protein is supposed to be .8 grams per pound. In other words, me being a 139 pounds, I am supposed to get about 112 grams of protein a day. I am usually over this amount.
    That's works if you are close to your ideal weight. I weigh about twice what you weigh and I certainly don't need or want over 200 grams of protein a day. My kidneys couldn't handle that.

    There are several different recommendations floating around. I've heard 0.8 to 1 gram per pound of LBM (lean body mass). The US-RDA for protein is 10 to 35% of calories from protein with a minimum of 46 grams for women and 56 grams for men.

    People who are trying to build muscle need a bit more protein but the default 20% of daily calories from protein that MFP has is 75 grams for 1500 calories and that is in line with the recommendations I've read.

    The bolded part is not valid.

    0.8 grams is to help maintain LBM while losing weight.

    Protein does not harm healthy kidneys.

    People who are building muscle can use more but they are also doing a progressive load lifting program.

    MFP gives RDA mins for all macros.

    I have mine set at 113 grams 0.8 per lb of weight.
    Saying that my kidneys couldn't handle that is completely valid. I have no idea if they are healthy or not but I have always had troubles whenever I try to eat a diet with too much protein, including when I was a teenager.

    As for your setting of 0.8 per lb of weight, that works because you are very close to your goal weight. For people who are trying to lose a lot of weight, 20% of calories from protein is plenty. There's no need for a 400 pound person to try to get 320 grams per day. That would be 1280 of their calories from protein alone.
    senecarr wrote: »
    seska422 wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    Unless you have some kind of kidney problem, you shouldn't have an issue eating 200 grams.
    Google "too much protein" and you'll see several potential health problems.

    Do you need protein powders?
    But there’s a big caveat, Lewin adds: it doesn’t take that much protein to achieve those goals. Most Americans already get about 15% of their daily calories in protein. To build a pound of muscle, Lewin explains, the body needs between 10 and 14 additional grams of protein per day.

    “That’s not really that much. Some of these powders have 80 grams of protein per serving. You don’t need that. All your body is going to do is break it down for energy. And too much protein can be hard on your kidneys and your liver.”
    Protein Math

    So how can you tell if you’re already getting enough protein? Do the math.

    Recreational athletes need 0.5-0.75 grams of protein daily for every per pound of body weight
    Competitive athletes need 0.6-0.9 grams per pound
    Teenage athletes need 0.8-0.9 grams per pound
    Athletes building muscle mass need 0.7-0.9 grams per pound

    The maximum amount of protein that most adults can use per day is 0.9 grams per pound of body weight.

    So if you’re an adult athlete who wants to build muscle mass, and you weigh about 175 pounds, the most protein you would need per day is 157.5 grams.
    I can Google Lizard-Men run the world and get results. It doesn't make them true. I've yet to hear of any evidence of protein harming kidneys in people with normal kidney function.
    http://examine.com/faq/can-eating-too-much-protein-be-bad-for-you
    That's full of studies on the stuff that old Lewin didn't seem to bother with when just coming up with an opinion, or repeating old worries based on protein's affect on people with kidney damage.
    I did say potential. It's up to you to read and evaluate it however you wish.

    I'm not dissing protein. However, excess amounts of it might cause problems for some people.
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