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Looking to gain 110 now want to hit 125

giantrobot_powerlifting

Eat over maintenance and find a progressive lifting program and be patient... like at least two years.

ndj1979

nakedraygun wrote: »

Eat over maintenance and find a progressive lifting program and be patient... like at least two years.

I agree with this ..

but where are you getting two years from? If op did 1 pound a week gain he would hit 15 pounds gained, which would put him at 125 in 15 weeks or so which is like five months…

jimmmer

Things always take longer than simple mathematics indicate.

Over any training period, life happens. Nothing is ever optimal.

Also, even if gains are optimal (and your p-ratio is as good as it can be) you have to bulk and cut several times if you want to end up at a heavier goal weight and have a good bf%/bodycomp.

Any training/fitness goal worth achieving needs 1-2 years set aside for. Just to allow for the 5 steps forward, 3 steps back nature of real life, good habit forming, slow incremental improvements that yield long term sustainable success, etc.

giantrobot_powerlifting

ndj1979 wrote: »

nakedraygun wrote: »

Eat over maintenance and find a progressive lifting program and be patient... like at least two years.

I agree with this ..

but where are you getting two years from? If op did 1 pound a week gain he would hit 15 pounds gained, which would put him at 125 in 15 weeks or so which is like five months…

I was figuring a conservative one-pound of LBM per month gain after bulk/cut cycles adding up to 24 LBM in two years...

Oh.. math breakdown. Why in the heck was I thinking 25 pounds of LBM? lol

What you said.

giantrobot_powerlifting

jimmmer wrote: »

Any training/fitness goal worth achieving needs 1-2 years set aside for. Just to allow for the 5 steps forward, 3 steps back nature of real life, good habit forming, slow incremental improvements that yield long term sustainable success, etc.

No kidding Jimmer. I thought getting back into fitness last March that it would take me at least 2 years to match my strength and physique of what I had back when I was 25. I am still on track (I think) but I didn't calculate injuries into that equation. Luckily, I know enough to program around these problems, but it is not as straightforward as what I originally envisioned.

jimmmer

nakedraygun wrote: »

jimmmer wrote: »

Any training/fitness goal worth achieving needs 1-2 years set aside for. Just to allow for the 5 steps forward, 3 steps back nature of real life, good habit forming, slow incremental improvements that yield long term sustainable success, etc.

No kidding Jimmer. I thought getting back into fitness last March that it would take me at least 2 years to match my strength and physique of what I had back when I was 25. I am still on track (I think) but I didn't calculate injuries into that equation. Luckily, I know enough to program around these problems, but it is not as straightforward as what I originally envisioned.

Agreed.

Stuff's going to happen. That's why there's no perfect progression, no perfect program, no perfect diet, no perfect bulk. There's only what you manage to get done given realworld circumstances.

giantrobot_powerlifting

jimmmer wrote: »

nakedraygun wrote: »

jimmmer wrote: »

Any training/fitness goal worth achieving needs 1-2 years set aside for. Just to allow for the 5 steps forward, 3 steps back nature of real life, good habit forming, slow incremental improvements that yield long term sustainable success, etc.

No kidding Jimmer. I thought getting back into fitness last March that it would take me at least 2 years to match my strength and physique of what I had back when I was 25. I am still on track (I think) but I didn't calculate injuries into that equation. Luckily, I know enough to program around these problems, but it is not as straightforward as what I originally envisioned.

Agreed.

Stuff's going to happen. That's why there's no perfect progression, no perfect program, no perfect diet, no perfect bulk. There's only what you manage to get done given realworld circumstances.

This is why we have DeFranco's 8, foam rollers, and balls. (LaCrosse and tennis balls.)

ndj1979

nakedraygun wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

nakedraygun wrote: »

Eat over maintenance and find a progressive lifting program and be patient... like at least two years.

I agree with this ..

but where are you getting two years from? If op did 1 pound a week gain he would hit 15 pounds gained, which would put him at 125 in 15 weeks or so which is like five months…

I was figuring a conservative one-pound of LBM per month gain after bulk/cut cycles adding up to 24 LBM in two years...

Oh.. math breakdown. Why in the heck was I thinking 25 pounds of LBM? lol

What you said.

LOL don't worry man...I have epic math fails all the time...

I thought maybe I was missing something...

giantrobot_powerlifting

ndj1979 wrote: »

nakedraygun wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

nakedraygun wrote: »

Eat over maintenance and find a progressive lifting program and be patient... like at least two years.

I agree with this ..

but where are you getting two years from? If op did 1 pound a week gain he would hit 15 pounds gained, which would put him at 125 in 15 weeks or so which is like five months…

I was figuring a conservative one-pound of LBM per month gain after bulk/cut cycles adding up to 24 LBM in two years...

Oh.. math breakdown. Why in the heck was I thinking 25 pounds of LBM? lol

What you said.

LOL don't worry man...I have epic math fails all the time...

I thought maybe I was missing something...

I think I had still had the after-memory of some other poster stating they would add like 25 pounds of LBM by late January and we could follow him on Youtube.

Like the tide, they come and go.

JoRocka

nakedraygun wrote: »

Eat over maintenance and find a progressive lifting program and be patient... like at least two years.

pretty much this.

problem solved.

no such thing as hard gainer- just eat more than you think you need to.