Gaining muscle but havent lost fat

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  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    TrailNurse wrote: »
    At 100 pounds, you need to be gaining muscle to change your body composition and HIIT is not going to do it. You need to be lifting heavy and eating to supporting your gains. Sometimes you have to gain a little to lose a little. I am only 5'2" and I am 148 lbs. If I was 100 pounds, I would have no muscle and look sickly. You need to be tracking your food intake which is the point of MFP....if you are not doing this (at least temporarily), you won't have any idea how many calories you are actually consuming. Macros are important. Also you can't gain muscle and lose weight at the same time. You have to pick the priority and at 100 lbs....you need to be building, not losing more weight.

    thanks for the advice! Do you think if i built my muscle up the fat would fall off naturally?
    Everywhere i read its suggested to cut calories but i cant eat only 1200 a day!! (thats my suggest amt for my height and i think its insane)

    How do you know this if you don't accurately log your calories?
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    TrailNurse wrote: »
    At 100 pounds, you need to be gaining muscle to change your body composition and HIIT is not going to do it. You need to be lifting heavy and eating to supporting your gains. Sometimes you have to gain a little to lose a little. I am only 5'2" and I am 148 lbs. If I was 100 pounds, I would have no muscle and look sickly. You need to be tracking your food intake which is the point of MFP....if you are not doing this (at least temporarily), you won't have any idea how many calories you are actually consuming. Macros are important. Also you can't gain muscle and lose weight at the same time. You have to pick the priority and at 100 lbs....you need to be building, not losing more weight.

    thanks for the advice! Do you think if i built my muscle up the fat would fall off naturally?
    Everywhere i read its suggested to cut calories but i cant eat only 1200 a day!! (thats my suggest amt for my height and i think its insane)

    How do you know this if you don't accurately log your calories?

    because 1200 isnt a good amount for anyone other than a child to consume in one day.

    Says who? 5', 100lbs, TDEE is probably in the 1500 range. 1200 is a very small deficit.
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
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    HIT - weight lifting (power, strength, bulk, etc)
    HIIT - cardio exercise (anaerobic workouts at or above VO2Max to improve speed, power, LT recovery, etc)

    Higher intensity workouts does not necessarily equal to HIT or HIIT. If you are not familiar with terms such as VO2Max, LT, and LTHR or know where your individual status are, you'll probably are not doing HIIT. Not a fan of weight lifting but I'm sure there are matrices specific to HIT. The terms have been misused of late and by those who should know better - there's no point of dumbing thing down so everyone get a medal.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    Hi everyone!
    I dont count calories because that is no way for anybody to live and i dont believe in doing that daily. I would like to know though (just so i can get an idea of around how many i SHOULD ideally be eating per day) should i be eating UNDER maintenance or OVER?

    The logic fail in this series of words is amazing. If you don't count calories, there is no way of knowing if you're under or over your maintenance. Your eating and exercise program won't build muscle mass if they are as you describe.
  • hit08
    hit08 Posts: 1 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    TrailNurse wrote: »
    At 100 pounds, you need to be gaining muscle to change your body composition and HIIT is not going to do it. You need to be lifting heavy and eating to supporting your gains. Sometimes you have to gain a little to lose a little. I am only 5'2" and I am 148 lbs. If I was 100 pounds, I would have no muscle and look sickly. You need to be tracking your food intake which is the point of MFP....if you are not doing this (at least temporarily), you won't have any idea how many calories you are actually consuming. Macros are important. Also you can't gain muscle and lose weight at the same time. You have to pick the priority and at 100 lbs....you need to be building, not losing more weight.

    thanks for the advice! Do you think if i built my muscle up the fat would fall off naturally?
    Everywhere i read its suggested to cut calories but i cant eat only 1200 a day!! (thats my suggest amt for my height and i think its insane)

    Unfortunately, accurately tracking your calories is the only way to know for sure whether or not you're losing, maintaining, or gaining. Like TrailNurse, I would suggest starting a lifting program and tracking your calories to eat over maintenance to gain muscle. You will gain some weight and maybe a little unwanted fat but when you change your goal to losing weight and change your diet, it will be much easier because of that muscle you have gained. More muscle you have=more calories your body burns. Trying to both gain muscle and cut fat at the same time is a little like trying to fill a bucket with a hole in it. Also meat/dairy aren't bad for you as long as you're eating the right amounts of them and if you're trying to gain muscle those foods will definitely be needed for a protein source in order to gain muscle.
  • alymcd1
    alymcd1 Posts: 35 Member
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    hit08 wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    TrailNurse wrote: »
    At 100 pounds, you need to be gaining muscle to change your body composition and HIIT is not going to do it. You need to be lifting heavy and eating to supporting your gains. Sometimes you have to gain a little to lose a little. I am only 5'2" and I am 148 lbs. If I was 100 pounds, I would have no muscle and look sickly. You need to be tracking your food intake which is the point of MFP....if you are not doing this (at least temporarily), you won't have any idea how many calories you are actually consuming. Macros are important. Also you can't gain muscle and lose weight at the same time. You have to pick the priority and at 100 lbs....you need to be building, not losing more weight.

    thanks for the advice! Do you think if i built my muscle up the fat would fall off naturally?
    Everywhere i read its suggested to cut calories but i cant eat only 1200 a day!! (thats my suggest amt for my height and i think its insane)

    Unfortunately, accurately tracking your calories is the only way to know for sure whether or not you're losing, maintaining, or gaining. Like TrailNurse, I would suggest starting a lifting program and tracking your calories to eat over maintenance to gain muscle. You will gain some weight and maybe a little unwanted fat but when you change your goal to losing weight and change your diet, it will be much easier because of that muscle you have gained. More muscle you have=more calories your body burns. Trying to both gain muscle and cut fat at the same time is a little like trying to fill a bucket with a hole in it. Also meat/dairy aren't bad for you as long as you're eating the right amounts of them and if you're trying to gain muscle those foods will definitely be needed for a protein source in order to gain muscle.

    Thanks for the tips! After i tracked my calories for the day yesterday i realize that im eating at about 1200/day. I Think i need to up my calories because i am eating too little, especially since yesterday was a workout day! I think that could be why i havent lost fat..
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    hit08 wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    TrailNurse wrote: »
    At 100 pounds, you need to be gaining muscle to change your body composition and HIIT is not going to do it. You need to be lifting heavy and eating to supporting your gains. Sometimes you have to gain a little to lose a little. I am only 5'2" and I am 148 lbs. If I was 100 pounds, I would have no muscle and look sickly. You need to be tracking your food intake which is the point of MFP....if you are not doing this (at least temporarily), you won't have any idea how many calories you are actually consuming. Macros are important. Also you can't gain muscle and lose weight at the same time. You have to pick the priority and at 100 lbs....you need to be building, not losing more weight.

    thanks for the advice! Do you think if i built my muscle up the fat would fall off naturally?
    Everywhere i read its suggested to cut calories but i cant eat only 1200 a day!! (thats my suggest amt for my height and i think its insane)

    Unfortunately, accurately tracking your calories is the only way to know for sure whether or not you're losing, maintaining, or gaining. Like TrailNurse, I would suggest starting a lifting program and tracking your calories to eat over maintenance to gain muscle. You will gain some weight and maybe a little unwanted fat but when you change your goal to losing weight and change your diet, it will be much easier because of that muscle you have gained. More muscle you have=more calories your body burns. Trying to both gain muscle and cut fat at the same time is a little like trying to fill a bucket with a hole in it. Also meat/dairy aren't bad for you as long as you're eating the right amounts of them and if you're trying to gain muscle those foods will definitely be needed for a protein source in order to gain muscle.

    Thanks for the tips! After i tracked my calories for the day yesterday i realize that im eating at about 1200/day. I Think i need to up my calories because i am eating too little, especially since yesterday was a workout day! I think that could be why i havent lost fat..

    How would you not lose fat if you are eating too little?
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
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    If you're not losing weight, you are not eating too little.

    Something is really broken with your logging - I suggest opening up your diary.
  • shor0814
    shor0814 Posts: 559 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »

    Thanks for the tips! After i tracked my calories for the day yesterday i realize that im eating at about 1200/day. I Think i need to up my calories because i am eating too little, especially since yesterday was a workout day! I think that could be why i havent lost fat..

    Are you losing weight, gaining weight, or staying the same in general?

  • alymcd1
    alymcd1 Posts: 35 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    hit08 wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    TrailNurse wrote: »
    At 100 pounds, you need to be gaining muscle to change your body composition and HIIT is not going to do it. You need to be lifting heavy and eating to supporting your gains. Sometimes you have to gain a little to lose a little. I am only 5'2" and I am 148 lbs. If I was 100 pounds, I would have no muscle and look sickly. You need to be tracking your food intake which is the point of MFP....if you are not doing this (at least temporarily), you won't have any idea how many calories you are actually consuming. Macros are important. Also you can't gain muscle and lose weight at the same time. You have to pick the priority and at 100 lbs....you need to be building, not losing more weight.

    thanks for the advice! Do you think if i built my muscle up the fat would fall off naturally?
    Everywhere i read its suggested to cut calories but i cant eat only 1200 a day!! (thats my suggest amt for my height and i think its insane)

    Unfortunately, accurately tracking your calories is the only way to know for sure whether or not you're losing, maintaining, or gaining. Like TrailNurse, I would suggest starting a lifting program and tracking your calories to eat over maintenance to gain muscle. You will gain some weight and maybe a little unwanted fat but when you change your goal to losing weight and change your diet, it will be much easier because of that muscle you have gained. More muscle you have=more calories your body burns. Trying to both gain muscle and cut fat at the same time is a little like trying to fill a bucket with a hole in it. Also meat/dairy aren't bad for you as long as you're eating the right amounts of them and if you're trying to gain muscle those foods will definitely be needed for a protein source in order to gain muscle.

    Thanks for the tips! After i tracked my calories for the day yesterday i realize that im eating at about 1200/day. I Think i need to up my calories because i am eating too little, especially since yesterday was a workout day! I think that could be why i havent lost fat..

    How would you not lose fat if you are eating too little?

    the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to fat
  • alymcd1
    alymcd1 Posts: 35 Member
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    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    If you're not losing weight, you are not eating too little.

    Something is really broken with your logging - I suggest opening up your diary.

    the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to fat, it actually is a very common thing.
  • alymcd1
    alymcd1 Posts: 35 Member
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    shor0814 wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »

    Thanks for the tips! After i tracked my calories for the day yesterday i realize that im eating at about 1200/day. I Think i need to up my calories because i am eating too little, especially since yesterday was a workout day! I think that could be why i havent lost fat..

    Are you losing weight, gaining weight, or staying the same in general?

    The same, based on progress pics.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,716 Member
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    Post a current pic. That will show a more accurate bodyfat/muscle ratio.

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  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    hit08 wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    TrailNurse wrote: »
    At 100 pounds, you need to be gaining muscle to change your body composition and HIIT is not going to do it. You need to be lifting heavy and eating to supporting your gains. Sometimes you have to gain a little to lose a little. I am only 5'2" and I am 148 lbs. If I was 100 pounds, I would have no muscle and look sickly. You need to be tracking your food intake which is the point of MFP....if you are not doing this (at least temporarily), you won't have any idea how many calories you are actually consuming. Macros are important. Also you can't gain muscle and lose weight at the same time. You have to pick the priority and at 100 lbs....you need to be building, not losing more weight.

    thanks for the advice! Do you think if i built my muscle up the fat would fall off naturally?
    Everywhere i read its suggested to cut calories but i cant eat only 1200 a day!! (thats my suggest amt for my height and i think its insane)

    Unfortunately, accurately tracking your calories is the only way to know for sure whether or not you're losing, maintaining, or gaining. Like TrailNurse, I would suggest starting a lifting program and tracking your calories to eat over maintenance to gain muscle. You will gain some weight and maybe a little unwanted fat but when you change your goal to losing weight and change your diet, it will be much easier because of that muscle you have gained. More muscle you have=more calories your body burns. Trying to both gain muscle and cut fat at the same time is a little like trying to fill a bucket with a hole in it. Also meat/dairy aren't bad for you as long as you're eating the right amounts of them and if you're trying to gain muscle those foods will definitely be needed for a protein source in order to gain muscle.

    Thanks for the tips! After i tracked my calories for the day yesterday i realize that im eating at about 1200/day. I Think i need to up my calories because i am eating too little, especially since yesterday was a workout day! I think that could be why i havent lost fat..

    How would you not lose fat if you are eating too little?

    the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to fat

    That is not true.
  • longtimeterp
    longtimeterp Posts: 614 Member
    edited June 2015
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    hit08 wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    TrailNurse wrote: »
    At 100 pounds, you need to be gaining muscle to change your body composition and HIIT is not going to do it. You need to be lifting heavy and eating to supporting your gains. Sometimes you have to gain a little to lose a little. I am only 5'2" and I am 148 lbs. If I was 100 pounds, I would have no muscle and look sickly. You need to be tracking your food intake which is the point of MFP....if you are not doing this (at least temporarily), you won't have any idea how many calories you are actually consuming. Macros are important. Also you can't gain muscle and lose weight at the same time. You have to pick the priority and at 100 lbs....you need to be building, not losing more weight.

    thanks for the advice! Do you think if i built my muscle up the fat would fall off naturally?
    Everywhere i read its suggested to cut calories but i cant eat only 1200 a day!! (thats my suggest amt for my height and i think its insane)

    Unfortunately, accurately tracking your calories is the only way to know for sure whether or not you're losing, maintaining, or gaining. Like TrailNurse, I would suggest starting a lifting program and tracking your calories to eat over maintenance to gain muscle. You will gain some weight and maybe a little unwanted fat but when you change your goal to losing weight and change your diet, it will be much easier because of that muscle you have gained. More muscle you have=more calories your body burns. Trying to both gain muscle and cut fat at the same time is a little like trying to fill a bucket with a hole in it. Also meat/dairy aren't bad for you as long as you're eating the right amounts of them and if you're trying to gain muscle those foods will definitely be needed for a protein source in order to gain muscle.

    Thanks for the tips! After i tracked my calories for the day yesterday i realize that im eating at about 1200/day. I Think i need to up my calories because i am eating too little, especially since yesterday was a workout day! I think that could be why i havent lost fat..

    How would you not lose fat if you are eating too little?

    the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to fat

    Kudos, havn't seen starvation mode in a while...
    what-if-starvation-mode-is-our-natural-state-and-our-bodies-are-just-trolling-us-by-making-us-want-food.jpg
  • alymcd1
    alymcd1 Posts: 35 Member
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Post a current pic. That will show a more accurate bodyfat/muscle ratio.

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    IDEA Fitness member
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    I've lost a bit of weight in the past few months but not too much, and it's really discouraging!
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    If you're not losing weight, you are not eating too little.

    Something is really broken with your logging - I suggest opening up your diary.

    the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to fat, it actually is a very common thing.

    Where? In Ethiopia?
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    If you're not losing weight, you are not eating too little.

    Something is really broken with your logging - I suggest opening up your diary.

    the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to fat, it actually is a very common thing.

    Where? In Ethiopia?

    It's easier to blame a fictional "mode" than to accept reality.
  • alymcd1
    alymcd1 Posts: 35 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    If you're not losing weight, you are not eating too little.

    Something is really broken with your logging - I suggest opening up your diary.

    the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to fat, it actually is a very common thing.

    Where? In Ethiopia?

    It's easier to blame a fictional "mode" than to accept reality.

    If youre going to disrespect me then there is no reason to comment on my post. That is what i have been told for YEARS by so many people, articles, websites, etc. If you think what i have learned is incorrect there are better ways of letting me know. I am not afraid of accepting so called "reality", i have learned differently than you (and i guess so have thousands of other people on this site) so please get off of this page unless you can be decent.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    alymcd1 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    If you're not losing weight, you are not eating too little.

    Something is really broken with your logging - I suggest opening up your diary.

    the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to fat, it actually is a very common thing.


    No it does not.

    You have probably gained some water weight from exercise and as you say you have lost some weight, you have likely lost some body fat - which is most likely why you can feel your muscles more. Its very unlikely you have gained any muscle.

    If I were you I would recomp. Eat at maintenance, get on a good progressive lifting routine (look at body weight workouts such as You Are Your Own Gym and Convict Conditioning if you cannot get to a gym and do not have equipment at home), and up your protein - based on what you say you eat, your protein seems very low.

    Recomping is where you lose fat and gain muscle (slowly) but stay more or less the same weight.

  • alymcd1
    alymcd1 Posts: 35 Member
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    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    alymcd1 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    If you're not losing weight, you are not eating too little.

    Something is really broken with your logging - I suggest opening up your diary.

    the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to fat, it actually is a very common thing.


    No it does not.

    You have probably gained some water weight from exercise and as you say you have lost some weight, you have likely lost some body fat - which is most likely why you can feel your muscles more. Its very unlikely you have gained any muscle.

    If I were you I would recomp. Eat at maintenance, get on a good progressive lifting routine (look at body weight workouts such as You Are Your Own Gym and Convict Conditioning if you cannot get to a gym and do not have equipment at home), and up your protein - based on what you say you eat, your protein seems very low.

    Recomping is where you lose fat and gain muscle (slowly) but stay more or less the same weight.

    Thank you for the advice :) Every website has a different "maintenance" goal so it gets a bit confusing!