Exact same number of calories, different results.
ClarityPeace
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i ate the exact same number of calories 2 days in a row. Day 1 I ate healthy food, lots of fruit, lean protein..exercised. Weight stayed the same. Day 2 I went low carb, cut out the fruit but ate the same number of calories (but had a beer) and lost a pound. Calories are all the same. Why do I lose more going low carb?
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water and glycogen stores got depleted...it wasn't fat you lost.0
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normal weight fluctuation cannot not be ruled out either0
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You cannot gauge fat loss from what you ate on 2 days. It's most likely a water fluctuation, possibly contributed to by the alcohol.0
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ClarityPeace wrote: »i ate the exact same number of calories 2 days in a row. Day 1 I ate healthy food, lots of fruit, lean protein..exercised. Weight stayed the same. Day 2 I went low carb, cut out the fruit but ate the same number of calories (but had a beer) and lost a pound. Calories are all the same. Why do I lose more going low carb?
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What you eat doesn't always have an immediate impact on your weight...0
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so are you folks saying the calories are all the same then? because I prefer to have the fruit every day.. My workout was stair stepper & bike both days.0
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stef I doubt my water was depleted, I drank a lot of water both days! (as for the glycogen I have no idea what that means).0
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ClarityPeace wrote: »so are you folks saying the calories are all the same then? because I prefer to have the fruit every day.. My workout was stair stepper & bike both days.
Indeed. Calories are calories when it comes to weight loss, unless you have an intolerance.. Only worry about macros (protein, carb, fat) and their percent in your diet for your health (make sure you get a good amount of each) or to gain muscle.0 -
ClarityPeace wrote: »stef I doubt my water was depleted, I drank a lot of water both days! (as for the glycogen I have no idea what that means).
Also, if you have a higher sugar/salt intake one day it can make your weight a bit higher because you may store more water, I believe. Tis life. Keep track by weeks, not days, because your weight naturally fluctuates up and down 1-2lbs a day...sometimes more.0 -
oh ok maybe that's it I ate dill pickle spears day 1 and not day 20
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Calories are the same for weight management. If you prefer to eat fruit, then eat fruit. Trying to classify lower carb as better with 2 days of input is absurd.0
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Also, if you have a higher sugar/salt intake one day it can make your weight a bit higher because you may store more water, I believe. Tis life. Keep track by weeks, not days, because your weight naturally fluctuates up and down 1-2lbs a day...sometimes more.
So how often do you track your weight? Twice a month? What is reasonable.
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I wasn't trying to classify anything I was just saying what happened and trying to understand why..
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ClarityPeace wrote: »so are you folks saying the calories are all the same then? because I prefer to have the fruit every day.. My workout was stair stepper & bike both days.
With weight fluctuating +/- 2 lbs per day there was statistically speaking no difference between the days. Try a week of each.
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ClarityPeace wrote: »Also, if you have a higher sugar/salt intake one day it can make your weight a bit higher because you may store more water, I believe. Tis life. Keep track by weeks, not days, because your weight naturally fluctuates up and down 1-2lbs a day...sometimes more.
So how often do you track your weight? Twice a month? What is reasonable.
Track as often as you like. But like the stock market it fluctuates constantly. Adjust according to longer term trends.0 -
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ClarityPeace wrote: »So how often do you track your weight? Twice a month? What is reasonable.
I weigh every day because I wanted to get over having my mood affected by the scale/being afraid to see the number and wanted to get used to the normal fluctuations. If you do that, you will quickly get over thinking that your weight is directly affected by what you ate the day before.
If you really wanted to compare the effects of different diets you would have to do each for a month or so, because there are numerous reasons why weight goes up and down. If I worked out the day before strenuously, my weight usually seems higher the next day, for just one example.0 -
ClarityPeace wrote: »stef I doubt my water was depleted, I drank a lot of water both days! (as for the glycogen I have no idea what that means).
glycogen is in the muscles and when you start/do low carb it gets depleted and yes it holds water...
1lb is not due to the difference in the food...it was probably water weight/glycogen stores from low carb or normal flucuations....
Often times when people do low carb they lose massive amounts of weight at first (I did when I chose that route a long time ago) but it really is just stores being used and once you eat carbs again it comes back.0 -
That's a completely irrelevant anecdotes0
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Mate, the main forum is very anti-low-carb. Just come join us in the low carb forum if you want to be low carb. It's cool. There have been tons of studies that revealed that low carb GENERALLY works better. That said, these were studies that took place over months of controlled diets... 2 days isn't very much. Weight loss isn't linear. So y'know, if you really want to test it, try doing low carb for a month, and low fat for a month. Without giving it more time you can't know for sure.
So, results non-conclusive.
Also, I'm pretty sure the beer probably completely negated cutting out the fruit.0 -
Mate, the main forum is very anti-low-carb. Just come join us in the low carb forum if you want to be low carb. It's cool. There have been tons of studies that revealed that low carb GENERALLY works better. That said, these were studies that took place over months of controlled diets... 2 days isn't very much. Weight loss isn't linear. So y'know, if you really want to test it, try doing low carb for a month, and low fat for a month. Without giving it more time you can't know for sure.
So, results non-conclusive.
Also, I'm pretty sure the beer probably completely negated cutting out the fruit.
This is not true. Many studies show they all work the same... different only in short term, maybe.0 -
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/atkins-and-other-highprotein-diets-increase-risk-of-weight-gain-study-finds-10235074.html
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/low-carb-diets
"Over the long haul, any differences between low-carb and other diets even out."
That about covers the fact. It doesn't generally work better. Every individual is different, sure, but two days means nothing and, generally, there is no long term difference in weight loss between a low carb diet and a regular low calorie diet.0 -
ClarityPeace wrote: »so are you folks saying the calories are all the same then? because I prefer to have the fruit every day.. My workout was stair stepper & bike both days.
The calorie count is one property of an item you eat. There is nutrient content, fiber, sodium, anti inflammatory index, glycemic load, and lots of others I am unaware of.
To call all foods equal based on just observing one of the many properties is oversimplification.
I practice a high vegetable sourced carb diet myself. I would not agree that a day I enough to tell anything
Give each system a two week full and fair effort run. Then see what happens.
There is always the personal impact of diet types with regard to what makes you feel full, or satisfied, even happy following it.
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Weight loss also fluctuates day to day. It may have nothing to do with what you ate.0
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I ate 3 6.5 ounce hamburgers and two gigantic s'mores for dinner yesterday, which is my lower carb/higher fat non-lifting day, and lost 2.4 pounds on the scale. I'm not really going to use that to decide that s'mores and burgers, or a higher fat count, is a weight loss tool.
Two days is an utterly meaningless timeframe for this.0 -
Mate, the main forum is very anti-low-carb. Just come join us in the low carb forum if you want to be low carb. It's cool. There have been tons of studies that revealed that low carb GENERALLY works better. That said, these were studies that took place over months of controlled diets... 2 days isn't very much. Weight loss isn't linear. So y'know, if you really want to test it, try doing low carb for a month, and low fat for a month. Without giving it more time you can't know for sure.
So, results non-conclusive.
Also, I'm pretty sure the beer probably completely negated cutting out the fruit.
The main forum is not anti-low carb. The main forum is anti-woo. There's a big difference between the two. Low carb, alone won't make you lose weight. Low carb as a method to create a calorie deficit will help you lose weight.0 -
TheVirgoddess wrote: »Mate, the main forum is very anti-low-carb. Just come join us in the low carb forum if you want to be low carb. It's cool. There have been tons of studies that revealed that low carb GENERALLY works better. That said, these were studies that took place over months of controlled diets... 2 days isn't very much. Weight loss isn't linear. So y'know, if you really want to test it, try doing low carb for a month, and low fat for a month. Without giving it more time you can't know for sure.
So, results non-conclusive.
Also, I'm pretty sure the beer probably completely negated cutting out the fruit.
The main forum is not anti-low carb. The main forum is anti-woo. There's a big difference between the two. Low carb, alone won't make you lose weight. Low carb as a method to create a calorie deficit will help you lose weight.
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TheVirgoddess wrote: »Mate, the main forum is very anti-low-carb. Just come join us in the low carb forum if you want to be low carb. It's cool. There have been tons of studies that revealed that low carb GENERALLY works better. That said, these were studies that took place over months of controlled diets... 2 days isn't very much. Weight loss isn't linear. So y'know, if you really want to test it, try doing low carb for a month, and low fat for a month. Without giving it more time you can't know for sure.
So, results non-conclusive.
Also, I'm pretty sure the beer probably completely negated cutting out the fruit.
The main forum is not anti-low carb. The main forum is anti-woo. There's a big difference between the two. Low carb, alone won't make you lose weight. Low carb as a method to create a calorie deficit will help you lose weight.
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