What do you think about your job watching your FB comments?
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What "burn"? The quoted text simply says if the OP doesn't like her company's new policy to look for another job.I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
haha, burn. But it is true, everyone thinks they are an expert. I love when my friends are always telling me their rights when it comes to cops. 'No you can refuse to be searched' they say, and I always tell them to just go right ahead and refuse a search and see what police brutality looks like.
I'm starting to think lawyers can't read.
And if exercising one's Fourth Amendment rights makes police brutality legal, I don't want to live in this country anymore.
Knowing many police officers and attorneys, I do know the police will usually find cause for a search one way or another if you try to refuse. If they beat me, there will be a lawsuit (though I doubt I'll ever find myself in that situation).0 -
Cancel FB and you don't have to worry about this!!! I have NEVER had a FB account and I have never had an issue0
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I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
haha, burn. But it is true, everyone thinks they are an expert. I love when my friends are always telling me their rights when it comes to cops. 'No you can refuse to be searched' they say, and I always tell them to just go right ahead and refuse a search and see what police brutality looks like.
Yea well you CAN refuse to be searched just like if I get pulled over at 5 am when I am driving to the gym and the cop asks me where I am going and where I came from I have the right to not answer the question because it has no bearing on why they pulled me over.And if exercising one's Fourth Amendment rights makes police brutality legal, I don't want to live in this country anymore.
Knowing many police officers and attorneys, I do know the police will usually find cause for a search one way or another if you try to refuse. If they beat me, there will be a lawsuit (though I doubt I'll ever find myself in that situation)
^^ Indeed.0 -
I work for a small third party admin and we are all pretty close. In fact 5 of my coworkers were friends with me before I even started here.
It's not so much as people posting that they hate the company (even though it happened before) , it's Facebook's new features that post everything you do to your friends newsfeed. For instance:
One girl here posted that she hated the company and she was on her way out. She was NOT friends with anyone at a higher paid grade than her on her FB. One of her friends/coworkers commented that she was just having a bad day and it would be better after she got home to relax. Well that person was friends with a director (her son is married to her) and the director saw the comments and the original update. So the director told her MIL that she should tell the girl who was complaining to hide her status because everyone could see it. It escalated pretty quick and she was fired.
Now, what I'm talking about is say you "Like" your local news station's FB page and they post a story about something political and you post something like "libtards are socialist communist" or "conservanuts are ignorant idiots" (NOTHING to do with your company) well your comment on the local news station gets broadcasted to your newsfeed AND since it's no longer on your page, it's public so your comments show up in a Google search. Someone is pissed that you said libtard or whatever and decides to screen shot your comment and go FB creeping. With the new timeline crap, people CAN see old posts if you don't go shut them down one by one or if they have a mutual friend they can find out info from their page about you. So that person now finds out where you work (because you don't have to have it listed. They can Google your name and find your LinkedIn account or all of your public likes/comments or something.) and email your employer and say "I can't believe you employee people who use the word "libtard!" This is what's happening at our company.
One email was sent to our customer service department and the lady said she was so offended by someone's remarks on "I F*cking Love Science" FB page that she actually paid for a background search. She said even though her profile was private, she was still able to see a previous check in from 2009 listed as public and some other comments through Google and matched it up.
Someone also emailed our company saying that they thought they should be aware that one of their employees likes photos of women with big boobs and butts on a page called "Thick and Juicy" and it showed up in her newsfeed all the time. So people you are friends with who apparently don't know how to come to you directly can email your employer!
To me, that's ridiculous.0 -
The First Amendment applies to the government, not private citizens/businesses.Last time I checked, the First Amendment hadn't yet been repealed. Time to seek other employment.
Heavens, you're right. Didn't that think one through long enough did I? :laugh:Last time I checked, the First Amendment hadn't yet been repealed. Time to seek other employment.
this is a silly comment. You can say anything you want anywhere at anytime. We all know that. Most adults also understand that there are consequences for doing that. So, think before you speak. It's common sense. And, don't be ridiculous with hiding behind the first amendment. It was not so you could call someone an *kitten*. it's so you can speak out freely on big topics, like saying stuff about politics.
My goodness, we are judgemental, aren't we? Relax buddy...I was multitasking and didn't read closely enough. My bad.0 -
Change your privacy settings and that won't happen.
(That was meant for MissTattoo.)0 -
well... You can now take away the 1st amendment away from the constitution. Tell them its your god given right to say what youd like on a PUBLIC forum and your rights will not be infringed on.0
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Before you call Facebook private, read the EULA and Data Use Policy.
It blatantly says:
They may track you through any GPS sources (ever check facebook on your phone?) or by any photos you upload. I have no idea why this isn't widely considered creepy.
They may collect any information people on your friend's list post about you, so you aren't the only one identifying yourself with your company.
They have certain posts default to public settings, so that ***** about your job that you posted on your best friend's wall? Not necessarily private.
But don't worry about any of this--Facebook loves you, and is providing services to make your life better. They won't share your information with anyone without telling you. And they'll tell you by changing their Data Use Policy, which I'm sure everyone religiously checks for updates.0 -
I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
The funny part is that I.never said it was a right and did not imply that a law was broken. I suggest sticking to talking, because reading is not what you know.0 -
I've gone through my privacy settings and there is no option to hide the likes and comments you do on other pages.0
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I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
haha, burn. But it is true, everyone thinks they are an expert. I love when my friends are always telling me their rights when it comes to cops. 'No you can refuse to be searched' they say, and I always tell them to just go right ahead and refuse a search and see what police brutality looks like.
Let me guess, burn because he called me fat, right?0 -
I just don't post anything I mind someone else "owning."Before you call Facebook private, read the EULA and Data Use Policy.
It blatantly says:
They may track you through any GPS sources (ever check facebook on your phone?) or by any photos you upload. I have no idea why this isn't widely considered creepy.
They may collect any information people on your friend's list post about you, so you aren't the only one identifying yourself with your company.
They have certain posts default to public settings, so that ***** about your job that you posted on your best friend's wall? Not necessarily private.
But don't worry about any of this--Facebook loves you, and is providing services to make your life better. They won't share your information with anyone without telling you. And they'll tell you by changing their Data Use Policy, which I'm sure everyone religiously checks for updates.
Yeah, anyone that reads the TOS would likely remove themselves from Facebook. LOL. It's pretty bad stuff. They own ALL YOUR CONTENT. Everything you say, and every picture you post, they own it.0 -
Sidenote: When did "speech" become synonymous with "typed up on a website?" Complain about your job the old fashioned way, in person with a beer, and you'll be fine. On a wall with your 153 closest friends isn't private.
People keep getting "freedom of the press" confused with freedom of anyone with a computer and no concept of consequences to make up whatever they want to online. There should be some pretty interesting cases defining the nuances of all of this in the future, but right now you are free to type whatever you want in public about your company, and your company is free to make you suffer in house consequences for providing bad publicity.0 -
Gas on the fire...
I know people in private industry and government that check facebook pages of all potential employees. Complaining about your job or employer is a quick way to get scratched off the interview list. Also, sounding like a whiny b1tch in general will do you in too.
The more you reveal of yourself in social media, the more you empower people to make judgments about you based on that limited, but potentially damning, picture you paint of yourself.0 -
There is not one single mention of the Constitution in what you quoted.I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
Calm down.
The nuances of English are hard.0 -
I know people in private industry and government that check facebook pages of all potential employees. Complaining about your job or employer is a quick way to get scratched off the interview list. Also, sounding like a whiny b1tch in general will do you in too.
Yup, and I'm one of them who have not only scratched people off interview lists when I've checked their social media output (here's a cluebie....use the privacy settings people!) but I've also fired people for what they've put out on social media. One young chap I fired managed to post very provocative almost naked photos of himself on Facebook whilst simultaneously saying where he worked and accepting friend requests from the youngsters who played the on-line game he worked for. And that was with a social media usage policy in place so I was literally staggered how anyone could be quite so bloody dumb.
For some reason, there's a certain segment of the population who persist in remaining ignorant to the fact that spouting one's mouth off on social media has its consequences. You're not doing it in a private chit-chat to your mates, you're doing it in full public glare...unless you're one of those rare people who have Facebook locked down and didn't add all your work buddies as friends, but if you are that person you're probably also wise enough not to scream about your employer there either.
So:
1. Avoid using your real name wherever possible. Use a pseudonym because employers can and do search potential employees.
2. If you're on Facebook then DON'T accept work colleagues on to your normal everyday account. Create a new account with your work email address, invite them on to that and keep it squeaky clean.
3. Learn all the privacy settings (Facebook change them regularly) and use them!
4. Don't use the same username for every online community. People who do so leave a 'trail' and allow others to build up a picture of that person. I tend to use themed ones, so perhaps I'll use this username for health/fitness sites, but for other sites I'll use something totally unrelated.0 -
I think it's pretty easy. Don't add your co-workers on Facebook, keep your profile private, and stop being a little *****. (Not you, OP, just in general.) Yes, we have freedom of speech, but many states are at-will employment states, meaning they can fire you for any reason (so long as it's not discriminatory) including if you go online where you have a public profile, co-workers on your list, etc. and ***** about your job.0
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What "burn"? The quoted text simply says if the OP doesn't like her company's new policy to look for another job.I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
haha, burn. But it is true, everyone thinks they are an expert. I love when my friends are always telling me their rights when it comes to cops. 'No you can refuse to be searched' they say, and I always tell them to just go right ahead and refuse a search and see what police brutality looks like.
I'm starting to think lawyers can't read.
And if exercising one's Fourth Amendment rights makes police brutality legal, I don't want to live in this country anymore.
Knowing many police officers and attorneys, I do know the police will usually find cause for a search one way or another if you try to refuse. If they beat me, there will be a lawsuit (though I doubt I'll ever find myself in that situation).
it was a burn to say stick to what you know..."eating bad junk and getting fat".
And your word against a cops. What is in the book is not how life really works.0 -
I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
haha, burn. But it is true, everyone thinks they are an expert. I love when my friends are always telling me their rights when it comes to cops. 'No you can refuse to be searched' they say, and I always tell them to just go right ahead and refuse a search and see what police brutality looks like.
Let me guess, burn because he called me fat, right?
he said it in reference to everyone on the website I think. It was funny because it was clearly a sweeping generalization, and within context, I laughed. We all know how to get fit too!0 -
I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
haha, burn. But it is true, everyone thinks they are an expert. I love when my friends are always telling me their rights when it comes to cops. 'No you can refuse to be searched' they say, and I always tell them to just go right ahead and refuse a search and see what police brutality looks like.
Yea well you CAN refuse to be searched just like if I get pulled over at 5 am when I am driving to the gym and the cop asks me where I am going and where I came from I have the right to not answer the question because it has no bearing on why they pulled me over.
Right, it does infringe on your "rights". Things are not by the book. If a cop wants to search you at any time for any reason, they will. If a landlord wants to kick you out because your the elevators are always breaking down and he is tired of fixing it for your wheelchair, they can evict you. If your employer wants to check your facebook at any point in time and hold against you anything you say, they will. Rights are a nice idea, but you don't actually have them.
Tell a judge 'I know my rights' at a bail hearing and watch how fast they revoke those rights and push your hearing to another day so you spend more time in jail.0 -
Are you a lawyer? I sure wouldn't want someone like you representing me.I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
haha, burn. But it is true, everyone thinks they are an expert. I love when my friends are always telling me their rights when it comes to cops. 'No you can refuse to be searched' they say, and I always tell them to just go right ahead and refuse a search and see what police brutality looks like.
Yea well you CAN refuse to be searched just like if I get pulled over at 5 am when I am driving to the gym and the cop asks me where I am going and where I came from I have the right to not answer the question because it has no bearing on why they pulled me over.
Right, it does infringe on your "rights". Things are not by the book. If a cop wants to search you at any time for any reason, they will. If a landlord wants to kick you out because your the elevators are always breaking down and he is tired of fixing it for your wheelchair, they can evict you. If your employer wants to check your facebook at any point in time and hold against you anything you say, they will. Rights are a nice idea, but you don't actually have them.
Tell a judge 'I know my rights' at a bail hearing and watch how fast they revoke those rights and push your hearing to another day so you spend more time in jail.0 -
Actually, a good majority of the time, when a cop asks if they can search you or your property, he/she has a reason and more than likely already has probable cause. It is just a way of determining if you are going to be cooperative. My fiance, who is going to be a cop, told me that if a cop ever asks me if he can search me or my property, to politely decline and ask if they had a reason for asking. If they had a reason and probable cause, they can search anyway. If not, then more than likely it was just to try to find something anyway. And if you say no, and they don't have a reason other than curiosity, most of them will not bother to go through the trouble of obtaining any paperwork, and they certainly won't result to 'brutality'. There are only a very few handful of cops across the country that would, but because of those bad police officers, hippies and teenagers everywhere see a cop and think they're just like the bad ones. -.-0
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I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
haha, burn. But it is true, everyone thinks they are an expert. I love when my friends are always telling me their rights when it comes to cops. 'No you can refuse to be searched' they say, and I always tell them to just go right ahead and refuse a search and see what police brutality looks like.
Yea well you CAN refuse to be searched just like if I get pulled over at 5 am when I am driving to the gym and the cop asks me where I am going and where I came from I have the right to not answer the question because it has no bearing on why they pulled me over.
Right, it does infringe on your "rights". Things are not by the book. If a cop wants to search you at any time for any reason, they will. If a landlord wants to kick you out because your the elevators are always breaking down and he is tired of fixing it for your wheelchair, they can evict you. If your employer wants to check your facebook at any point in time and hold against you anything you say, they will. Rights are a nice idea, but you don't actually have them.
Tell a judge 'I know my rights' at a bail hearing and watch how fast they revoke those rights and push your hearing to another day so you spend more time in jail.
Your post was both cynical and asinine. It also had strawman arguments for completely different topics. I am impressed.0 -
Are you a lawyer? I sure wouldn't want someone like you representing me.I think it is a huge invasion of privacy, if you don't have your employer listed. So don't list your employer. And don't add coworkers. And don't name the company you are complaining about.
Easy peasy.
No such right in the Constitution...and what we do have has limitations. I wish people would STOP trying to be Lawyers ansd stick to what they KNOW...eating BAD junk and getting fat.
haha, burn. But it is true, everyone thinks they are an expert. I love when my friends are always telling me their rights when it comes to cops. 'No you can refuse to be searched' they say, and I always tell them to just go right ahead and refuse a search and see what police brutality looks like.
Yea well you CAN refuse to be searched just like if I get pulled over at 5 am when I am driving to the gym and the cop asks me where I am going and where I came from I have the right to not answer the question because it has no bearing on why they pulled me over.
Right, it does infringe on your "rights". Things are not by the book. If a cop wants to search you at any time for any reason, they will. If a landlord wants to kick you out because your the elevators are always breaking down and he is tired of fixing it for your wheelchair, they can evict you. If your employer wants to check your facebook at any point in time and hold against you anything you say, they will. Rights are a nice idea, but you don't actually have them.
Tell a judge 'I know my rights' at a bail hearing and watch how fast they revoke those rights and push your hearing to another day so you spend more time in jail.
I'm not, clearly! I know what our 'rights' are supposed to be. But it is all theory. All of these things happen all the time, and unless you have got money to go on the offense and have your "rights" represented, you will be thrown on the roof of a cop car for telling them 'no you can't search me' when you walk through the park. You will end up evicted for nothing, with a human rights complaint sitting in a pile for months with little resolution.
This is reality. If you've got money and access to a great lawyer, awesome...but, not everyone is so lucky!0 -
Actually, a good majority of the time, when a cop asks if they can search you or your property, he/she has a reason and more than likely already has probable cause. It is just a way of determining if you are going to be cooperative. My fiance, who is going to be a cop, told me that if a cop ever asks me if he can search me or my property, to politely decline and ask if they had a reason for asking. If they had a reason and probable cause, they can search anyway. If not, then more than likely it was just to try to find something anyway. And if you say no, and they don't have a reason other than curiosity, most of them will not bother to go through the trouble of obtaining any paperwork, and they certainly won't result to 'brutality'. There are only a very few handful of cops across the country that would, but because of those bad police officers, hippies and teenagers everywhere see a cop and think they're just like the bad ones. -.-
you're right, I shouldn't generalize. Not all cops will. But if and when they do (and the bad ones do!) infringe your 'rights' it really is your word against theirs. It happens all the time.0 -
Actually, a good majority of the time, when a cop asks if they can search you or your property, he/she has a reason and more than likely already has probable cause. It is just a way of determining if you are going to be cooperative. My fiance, who is going to be a cop, told me that if a cop ever asks me if he can search me or my property, to politely decline and ask if they had a reason for asking. If they had a reason and probable cause, they can search anyway. If not, then more than likely it was just to try to find something anyway. And if you say no, and they don't have a reason other than curiosity, most of them will not bother to go through the trouble of obtaining any paperwork, and they certainly won't result to 'brutality'. There are only a very few handful of cops across the country that would, but because of those bad police officers, hippies and teenagers everywhere see a cop and think they're just like the bad ones. -.-
you're right, I shouldn't generalize. Not all cops will. But if and when they do (and the bad ones do!) infringe your 'rights' it really is your word against theirs. It happens all the time.
But thanks to dash cams, street cams, as well as nearly anyone with a smart phone recording everything a cop does, most of it can be proven. There was recently a case in my state where a cop who was a sheriff's son pushed an inmate that was handcuffed and he fell into the bench and cracked his head open. Thanks to the cameras in the room, his excuse of "oh he lunged at me and threatened me" was disproven. It's not always that way, either. But, yes, the bad ones do make the good ones look bad.0 -
Actually, a good majority of the time, when a cop asks if they can search you or your property, he/she has a reason and more than likely already has probable cause. It is just a way of determining if you are going to be cooperative. My fiance, who is going to be a cop, told me that if a cop ever asks me if he can search me or my property, to politely decline and ask if they had a reason for asking. If they had a reason and probable cause, they can search anyway. If not, then more than likely it was just to try to find something anyway. And if you say no, and they don't have a reason other than curiosity, most of them will not bother to go through the trouble of obtaining any paperwork, and they certainly won't result to 'brutality'. There are only a very few handful of cops across the country that would, but because of those bad police officers, hippies and teenagers everywhere see a cop and think they're just like the bad ones. -.-
you're right, I shouldn't generalize. Not all cops will. But if and when they do (and the bad ones do!) infringe your 'rights' it really is your word against theirs. It happens all the time.
On what are you basing this?
Brittany -- I used to do the police blotter when I was a reporter. If they think you have drugs in your car when they pull you over and you refuse, they make you wait while another cop brings the drug-sniffing dog. That may have been more common where I was, though, right on the FL/GA border on I-95. Lots of drug smuggling traffic there.0 -
Brittany -- I used to do the police blotter when I was a reporter. If they think you have drugs in your car when they pull you over and you refuse, they make you wait while another cop brings the drug-sniffing dog. That may have been more common where I was, though, right on the FL/GA border on I-95. Lots of drug smuggling traffic there.
Yepp, they sure do! I didn't mean it to sound like they need probable cause. If they really think they will find something, they will sit there and wait and make you wait while the get a K-9 Unit and the go-ahead.0 -
I knew the police, sheriff's deputies and city and county leaders pretty well because of my job. They really were good guys. Well, the sheriff not so much, but the rest of them.Brittany -- I used to do the police blotter when I was a reporter. If they think you have drugs in your car when they pull you over and you refuse, they make you wait while another cop brings the drug-sniffing dog. That may have been more common where I was, though, right on the FL/GA border on I-95. Lots of drug smuggling traffic there.
Yepp, they sure do! I didn't mean it to sound like they need probable cause. If they really think they will find something, they will sit there and wait and make you wait while the get a K-9 Unit and the go-ahead.0
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