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Too high of a deficit

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  • andrewuhring
    andrewuhring Posts: 6 Member
    Anyway, thanks for all the help. Got the point, meet at least the net caloric intake and eat more to meet it. Thanks for your help everybody.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    andrewuhring wrote: »
    Anyway, thanks for all the help. Got the point, meet at least the net caloric intake and eat more to meet it. Thanks for your help everybody.

    good luck to you op ….
  • Zedeff
    Zedeff Posts: 651 Member
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    you need study to know that a 18 year old male should net over 1500 calories???
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    some people on this forum..
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    IsaackGMOON wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    some people on this forum..

    welcome to MFP ….
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    If you don't like the minimums used by MFP, feel free to avoid the site. Or are you going to once again regale us with theoretical potential burns that are not likely in the real world?
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    Good enough for me. You might want to start with page 14.
    U.S. Department of Agriculture
    U.S. Department of Health and Human Services www.dietaryguidelines.gov
    http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2010/dietaryguidelines2010.pdf
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    Stop flame baiting!!

    We have enough people not eating enough/eating disorders, for you to come in here and start something.
  • Zedeff
    Zedeff Posts: 651 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    Good enough for me. You might want to start with page 14.
    U.S. Department of Agriculture
    U.S. Department of Health and Human Services www.dietaryguidelines.gov
    http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2010/dietaryguidelines2010.pdf

    Page 14 lists the estimated number of calories to maintain weight. It lists, for an 18 year old male, a maintenance calorie value of 2000 calories per day minimum. I don't see how this supports your position on intentional weight loss.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    You're baiting. The source of the 1500 for males that MFP uses was presented to you before. You them quoted a piece of minutia from it that involves people under medical supervision to try to contradict it.
    I'm guessing you're hoping to do it all over again?
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    Good enough for me. You might want to start with page 14.
    U.S. Department of Agriculture
    U.S. Department of Health and Human Services www.dietaryguidelines.gov
    http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2010/dietaryguidelines2010.pdf

    Page 14 lists the estimated number of calories to maintain weight. It lists, for an 18 year old male, a maintenance calorie value of 2000 calories per day minimum. I don't see how this supports your position on intentional weight loss.

    Isn't the highest rate of loss EVER recommended less 25% ? 2000, less 25% = 1500. Good enough for me.
    More importantly, it's what MFP recommends and this is their website.
  • Zedeff
    Zedeff Posts: 651 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    You're baiting. The source of the 1500 for males that MFP uses was presented to you before. You them quoted a piece of minutia from it that involves people under medical supervision to try to contradict it.
    I'm guessing you're hoping to do it all over again?

    I'm not invested in this discussion. In fact I'm about to head out to do some lawn mowing so I won't see whether you reply or not, and I hardly see how that qualifies as flame baiting.

    That said, MFP cites a source for this data as the National Institute of Health. The NIH document actually says 1000-1200 for women and 1200-1500 for men. MFP intentionally chose the higher value for each category in spite of NIH guidelines and recommendations. I suppose a pessimist might point out that MFP is a business that makes money when users lose weight more slowly and thus use the website for longer.
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  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    I'd love someone to post a peer reviewed source claiming that 1500 "net" calories is an absolute healthy minimum for men.

    I suspect that nobody can do it.

    You're baiting. The source of the 1500 for males that MFP uses was presented to you before. You them quoted a piece of minutia from it that involves people under medical supervision to try to contradict it.
    I'm guessing you're hoping to do it all over again?

    I'm not invested in this discussion. In fact I'm about to head out to do some lawn mowing so I won't see whether you reply or not, and I hardly see how that qualifies as flame baiting.

    That said, MFP cites a source for this data as the National Institute of Health. The NIH document actually says 1000-1200 for women and 1200-1500 for men. MFP intentionally chose the higher value for each category in spite of NIH guidelines and recommendations. I suppose a pessimist might point out that MFP is a business that makes money when users lose weight more slowly and thus use the website for longer.

    Exact same minutia you pointed out before which you were told those lower ranges assume physician supervision. Did you Jack Blackout after the last time?
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