Heat and exercise

markdvsmo
markdvsmo Posts: 16 Member
edited November 21 in Fitness and Exercise
Sorry if this has been answered before, did a search but "heat" is a pretty general term.

It's been oppressively hot and humid here (MO), and I do a good bit of work outside - no choice. I log some of my chores as exercise, because it is... carpentry and heavy garden work type stuff.

What effect does heat have on exercise and how many calories are burned? Logic tells me it shouldn't matter, your body burns X number of calories to do Y, regardless of whether it's hot or cold, but judging by how tired I get working in the heat vs. more pleasant temps, it's sure seems like I'm working a lot harder when it's hot. I guess some calories are expended sweating and whatnot, but just curious if there's any scientific-ish analysis of this.

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  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    I would argue that your body will burn slightly less cals when it is hot and humid, the main reason for this is you will not be able to push as hard or go as long, so in the end you end up burning less.
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  • tibby531
    tibby531 Posts: 717 Member
    according to my HRM, on the nasty-yucky days, I tend to burn more calories, but I'm not able to do as much. a couple weeks ago, when it was just rain rain rain, I could bust out a 10k in a little over an hour. this week... I can only get 5 miles under my belt in an hour. but my burns are still through the roof. just make sure you stay hydrated. heat headaches are no fun.
  • _lyndseybrooke_
    _lyndseybrooke_ Posts: 2,561 Member
    A lot of people seem to think sweating during a workout means they're burning more calories and getting a "better" workout, but that's just not true. I sweat like a pig when I'm laying by the pool, but am I burning a bunch of calories? No. Sweating is your body's way of regulating your internal temperature. You get hot, you sweat, you naturally cool off.

    When I lift in my garage gym, which has been about 80 degrees at 4AM lately, I sweat quite a bit. When I used to lift in an air conditioned room, I didn't sweat nearly as much. Seems quite obvious, but I'm not getting better workouts because I'm sweating more now. If I lose anything extra by sweating, it's water, not fat.

    I do agree with @erickirb's point about the heat preventing you from doing as much work. I know I get pretty sluggish on hot South Carolina summer days. It's already been over 100 here pretty much daily, and it certainly doesn't make me want to go out for a run or something (not that I'd run even if it wasn't hot).

    In short, heat likely has little to no effect on calories burned, provided the same amount of work is done.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    tibby531 wrote: »
    according to my HRM, on the nasty-yucky days, I tend to burn more calories, but I'm not able to do as much. a couple weeks ago, when it was just rain rain rain, I could bust out a 10k in a little over an hour. this week... I can only get 5 miles under my belt in an hour. but my burns are still through the roof. just make sure you stay hydrated. heat headaches are no fun.

    HRMs just measure HR, then plug that number into a calculation. Your HR may be higher in the heat, but not necessarily for the same reason that causes calories burned (oxygen uptake), which does not increase with heat.
  • bennettinfinity
    bennettinfinity Posts: 865 Member
    tibby531 wrote: »
    according to my HRM, on the nasty-yucky days, I tend to burn more calories, but I'm not able to do as much. a couple weeks ago, when it was just rain rain rain, I could bust out a 10k in a little over an hour. this week... I can only get 5 miles under my belt in an hour. but my burns are still through the roof. just make sure you stay hydrated. heat headaches are no fun.

    Keep in mind that your HRM is just using an algorithm to determine calorie burn... just because your HR is higher than usual when it's hot (all other variables controlled) doesn't mean your burning more calories. Your HR is responding to the heat, not increased exertion.
  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
    markdvsmo wrote: »
    It's been oppressively hot and humid here (MO), and I do a good bit of work outside - no choice. I log some of my chores as exercise, because it is... carpentry and heavy garden work type stuff.

    What effect does heat have on exercise and how many calories are burned?

    Work (including commuting, housework, yard work, and child care) is part of your activity level, and should not be logged as exercise. Work = activity level. Workouts = exercise.

    Increase your activity level and stop logging your work as exercise.

    As for the heat, all the burns & calorie counts are nothing but estimates. Change your focus from looking for "extra credit" to using trial & error to find the "sweet spot" where you're eating at an appropriate deficit for your size.
  • tibby531
    tibby531 Posts: 717 Member
    erickirb wrote: »
    HRMs just measure HR, then plug that number into a calculation. Your HR may be higher in the heat, but not necessarily for the same reason that causes calories burned (oxygen uptake), which does not increase with heat.
    bennettinfinity wrote: »
    Keep in mind that your HRM is just using an algorithm to determine calorie burn... just because your HR is higher than usual when it's hot (all other variables controlled) doesn't mean your burning more calories. Your HR is responding to the heat, not increased exertion.

    well darn, and double darn. I thought I was rocking it! :p
  • bennettinfinity
    bennettinfinity Posts: 865 Member
    tibby531 wrote: »
    erickirb wrote: »
    HRMs just measure HR, then plug that number into a calculation. Your HR may be higher in the heat, but not necessarily for the same reason that causes calories burned (oxygen uptake), which does not increase with heat.
    bennettinfinity wrote: »
    Keep in mind that your HRM is just using an algorithm to determine calorie burn... just because your HR is higher than usual when it's hot (all other variables controlled) doesn't mean your burning more calories. Your HR is responding to the heat, not increased exertion.

    well darn, and double darn. I thought I was rocking it! :p

    You ARE rockin' it! You're out there getting the miles in... just no bonus calories... :)
  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    You burn more calories doing the same exercising when it's cold (whether weather or air conditioning) because the main function of calories is to keep your body warm. Simple as that.
  • Nuke_64
    Nuke_64 Posts: 406 Member
    Since HRM's will report a higher heart rate in the heat, therefore your heart is working more, you are doing a little more work. But generally, not that much and you shouldn't log your chores.
  • markdvsmo
    markdvsmo Posts: 16 Member
    Nuke_64 wrote: »
    Since HRM's will report a higher heart rate in the heat, therefore your heart is working more, you are doing a little more work. But generally, not that much and you shouldn't log your chores.
    I may have used the wrong term in 'chores'... the stuff I log is like this morning, four hours of cutting, drilling and installing sheet metal in the sun on a steep metal roof, with more to come this afternoon. I'm pretty sure baseline doesn't account for that kind of activity.

    I do treat it all as a bonus, though, and generally stay below my 1800 cals with or without the added exercise. But strenuous activity is exercise whether you walk away from it with a new roof or a few more miles on the exercise bike's odometer.
  • bennettinfinity
    bennettinfinity Posts: 865 Member
    markdvsmo wrote: »
    Nuke_64 wrote: »
    Since HRM's will report a higher heart rate in the heat, therefore your heart is working more, you are doing a little more work. But generally, not that much and you shouldn't log your chores.
    I may have used the wrong term in 'chores'... the stuff I log is like this morning, four hours of cutting, drilling and installing sheet metal in the sun on a steep metal roof, with more to come this afternoon. I'm pretty sure baseline doesn't account for that kind of activity.

    I do treat it all as a bonus, though, and generally stay below my 1800 cals with or without the added exercise. But strenuous activity is exercise whether you walk away from it with a new roof or a few more miles on the exercise bike's odometer.

    If you're doing that type of activity every day, it should be part of you baseline. If not, it's not something I would purposefully log. I think you should only be logging things that you do on a consistent basis. If this is a once every few months kind of thing, it's best to consider it bonus burn. As @editorgrrl said, don't be looking for extra credit - that's not how this works.
  • tibby531
    tibby531 Posts: 717 Member
    bennettinfinity wrote: »
    tibby531 wrote: »
    erickirb wrote: »
    HRMs just measure HR, then plug that number into a calculation. Your HR may be higher in the heat, but not necessarily for the same reason that causes calories burned (oxygen uptake), which does not increase with heat.
    bennettinfinity wrote: »
    Keep in mind that your HRM is just using an algorithm to determine calorie burn... just because your HR is higher than usual when it's hot (all other variables controlled) doesn't mean your burning more calories. Your HR is responding to the heat, not increased exertion.

    well darn, and double darn. I thought I was rocking it! :p

    You ARE rockin' it! You're out there getting the miles in... just no bonus calories... :)

    aww, thanks. I'll take it! :)
  • G8rRay
    G8rRay Posts: 89 Member
    edited July 2015
    Exercising on a hot day in the sun increases your heart rate because some of the blood that should go to your muscles is diverted to your skin for cooling--evaporating sweat cools your skin, therefore cooling your blood diverted there. Since some of the blood has been diverted to your skin for cooling, your heart must beat faster to provide the necessary volume to your exercising muscles (the full volume required by them).

    There is another mechanism at work, too. In high humidity, or in the case where your sweat doesn't evaporate quickly enough to keep your core temperature at or below a critical value (102°F, if I recall correctly), your brain/nervous system will force you to slow down enough that your evaporating sweat will keep your core temperature at or below that critical value.

    Since HRMs use heart rate and an algorithm to calculate Calories (kcal) burned, the higher heart rate calculates to a greater Calorie burn. The actual Calorie burn is negligibly higher due to increased heart rate but not due to increase in skeletal muscle work [assumes identical workouts, other than increased heart rate due to heat].

    For example, on a day that is sunny, hot (>93°F), and moderate relative humidity (~55%), I can run an easy pace for about three miles before that mechanism kicks in and slows my pace ~90"/mi to 120"/mi after that; the same run on days that are milder (<85°F), I usually run negative splits (each mile faster than the previous mile) for 6-8 miles and the HRM shows lower average heart rate, increased average pace (fewer minutes per mile), and lower Calorie burn overall.
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