Stevia
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FunkyTobias wrote: »It is a bit long to explain and a Dietitian can probably explain it well but sugar turns to fat easily.
Actually, it almost never turns to fat.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/74/6/707.full
That is great. Thanks. I can now take 10 to 15 spoon full of sugar while eating my normal meal and not gain a pound. We should have someone try this.
If it fits within your calorie goal then go for it because no, you won't gain a pound!0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Stevia is just another fad to make us feel like what we're eating is in some way better for us than something trying to be presented as evil. It's all just a big corporate money making scam targeting those who want a quick fix for their poor diet.
LOL, what an Over simplified, general comment. I could probably say the same of sugar. 1 do not take sugar usually and try to take the stevia. I understand that there is some processing to make it into powder form or liquid form. You don't have to be a genius to know that. If people are too fussy about the taste and hurts there little feelings to take it in there coffee, that's fine. I stuck with it for years and i am used to it. Most people struggle with change.0 -
I love SweetLeaf stevia. As a pre-diabetic I try to limit my sugar and carbs. Stevia has fewer unpleasant side effects for me than, sugar alcohols, aspartame, or sucralose.0
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Use it in coffee and oatmeal. Took about a couple weeks to get used to. Rather use my sugar in other ways then coffee etc.0
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I use Stevia and sugar at different times, but just practice moderation with each. The next time I see a Stevia plant I am going to buy it and use its leaves as a sweetener for drinks. I guess for me it depends on the application and what else I am eating in the day.
I like to drop in some lemon slices into a bottle of seltzer water and tighten the cap to keep the carbonation. I usually add a little bit of sweetener. It is really refreshing. Has anyone tried this? Because you need to.0 -
Stevia makes me ill - tired and nauseous. Other sugar substitutes do not have the same effect. I also find it tastes bitter at the same time as sweet.0
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i used to put it in my tea then some old guy used it to kill me now i am dead0
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Sugar and other so-called "simple carbs" like pasta and white bread can cause a glycemic response in your body. Your blood sugar goes up, your body releases insulin, and your blood sugar crashes. When it crashes you feel tired and crave sugar to bring your blood sugar back up again. Obviously everyone is different but this definitely happens to me. I call it the "Sugar roller coaster". Once I start eating sugar I find myself craving it all day long.
So yes, it's calories in and calories out but avoiding sugar makes it easier for me to eat fewer calories - and I feel better too, more consistent energy throughout the day. Eating smaller, more frequent meals helps too - since larger meals have a greater glycemic response (why you may feel tired after a large meal).
Stevia is ok. I agree that it's a lot stronger than sugar. Due the cost and the taste I use Splenda, but I try to limit it since it's an artificial sweetener and I wonder if all the health effects are fully understood just yet.
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VintageFeline wrote: »Stevia is just another fad to make us feel like what we're eating is in some way better for us than something trying to be presented as evil. It's all just a big corporate money making scam targeting those who want a quick fix for their poor diet.
LOL, what an Over simplified, general comment.
It was supposed to be. If you have very little sugar in your diet there's little need to use Stevia unless you prefer the taste. If you have a problem controlling sugar intake then addressing it rather than using an alternative is probably a more sensible approach.
And, in general, all new fangled food products are made to create new income for the parent company, there's very little altruistic reasoning behind companies wanting to make a profit.
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Sugar and other so-called "simple carbs" like pasta and white bread can cause a glycemic response in your body. Your blood sugar goes up, your body releases insulin, and your blood sugar crashes. When it crashes you feel tired and crave sugar to bring your blood sugar back up again. Obviously everyone is different but this definitely happens to me. I call it the "Sugar roller coaster". Once I start eating sugar I find myself craving it all day long.
So yes, it's calories in and calories out but avoiding sugar makes it easier for me to eat fewer calories - and I feel better too, more consistent energy throughout the day. Eating smaller, more frequent meals helps too - since larger meals have a greater glycemic response (why you may feel tired after a large meal).
Stevia is ok. I agree that it's a lot stronger than sugar. Due the cost and the taste I use Splenda, but I try to limit it since it's an artificial sweetener and I wonder if all the health effects are fully understood just yet.
no, this is not accurate. Sugar gets demonized all the time, which is unfortunate. Eating a regular diet of regular food, will not cause this 'sugar crash' to happen. Putting a teaspoon or two of sugar in a cup of coffee or a bowl of oatmeal is not enough to cause any type of sugar spike or sugar 'crash'. Also, a teaspoon of sugar is 16 calories. Pretty simple to fit into any calorie goal.0 -
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I use stevia sparingly because it does taste different. I cannot handle it in hot drinks, only cold ones like iced tea. However, what I do use is monk fruit as it does not have an aftertaste to me. I use it primarily for iced tea and coffee. I also use a product called Sugavida (look it up). It tastes great and has a molasses/brown sugar, caramely back flavor that makes it perfect for sweetening coffee. It is derived from plants and has b vitamins in it AND it does not spike your blood sugar in any way. Sugavida is a bit expensive but a little goes a long way. I ordered it on Amazon before but now my local HEB grocery store carries it.0
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As per your 1st paragraph, that's just not true.
So what are you saying? That there's no such thing as Glycemic Index, and all foods affect blood sugar the same way? That's definitely not true. Here's more info that explains it better than I did.
http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/glycemic-index-good-versus-bad-carbs
The logic of this syncs up with eating "whole foods" too, since many processed foods have tons of added sugar and enriched flours.
I accept that different people are affected to different degrees. What I wrote is how I feel personally - when I eat a lot of simple carbs I feel very sluggish a while after, and I find myself craving sugar to sort of "pick myself up". Similarly, if I eat 3 larger meals I feel tired and tend to snack between meals.
So yeah... calories in, calories out. I could eat all my calories for the day in one large meal with pancakes, syrup and powdered sugar and stay under my goal if I didn't eat the rest of the day. But I would be tired, cranky and very hungry all day long - and very unlikely to stay consistent or successful over the long-term.
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As per your 1st paragraph, that's just not true.
So what are you saying? That there's no such thing as Glycemic Index, and all foods affect blood sugar the same way? That's definitely not true. Here's more info that explains it better than I did.
http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/glycemic-index-good-versus-bad-carbs
The logic of this syncs up with eating "whole foods" too, since many processed foods have tons of added sugar and enriched flours.
I accept that different people are affected to different degrees. What I wrote is how I feel personally - when I eat a lot of simple carbs I feel very sluggish a while after, and I find myself craving sugar to sort of "pick myself up". Similarly, if I eat 3 larger meals I feel tired and tend to snack between meals.
So yeah... calories in, calories out. I could eat all my calories for the day in one large meal with pancakes, syrup and powdered sugar and stay under my goal if I didn't eat the rest of the day. But I would be tired, cranky and very hungry all day long - and very unlikely to stay consistent or successful over the long-term.
This might just be a matter of getting to know your body and what it needs. Often the brain's signals are misunderstood - thirst gets misinterpreted as hunger, and a craving for sugar can often mean the body needs salt.
And eating all of your calories in pancakes, syrup and powdered sugar doesn't fit the meaning of moderation at all. Or meeting your macronutrient needs. You wouldn't feel very good because your body needs protein and fats, not just carbs.
You can't demonize sugar by saying "if I only ate sugar, I wouldn't feel good", because that's not realistic. People don't eat that way.0 -
I find this discussion interesting but from a different angle. I have never understood why people add sweeteners to so many foods at all. I know we aren't all the same but if sugar wasn't shoved into children at a high rate bad habits and overdoing it wouldn't be such an issue.
I am fortunate to not have a sweet tooth and appreciate the flavor of the food, rather than the flavor of sweet. My mom didn't use sugary food as a pacifier.
Being a label reader (plus I can taste it) I've been very disappointed in so called healthy foods and specialty stores that often has MORE added sweeteners than old stand bys (esp organic frozen entrees, chili, etc)
Is tea really that nasty without covering it up with sugar? I love oatmeal, not a bowl of sugary mush. Does ketchup or salad dressing really need sweetener? Aren't waffles or toast tasty without syrup or jam? Everything from pizza to cole slaw, seems to have added sugar, why? Is food that disgusting? Try water infused with just fruit and no extra sweetener.
I think I understand the OP's original thoughts that adding 'sugar' (corn syrup, whatever) to seemingly everything has the potential to be unhealthy. But even no cal options like Stevia lead people's taste into expecting everything to lean toward sweet. I don't agree with adding ANY sweetener to most foods, it's a crutch and to give so much to small children is unconscionable.
People are free to ingest what they want, I choose not to waste my intake on uneccessary sweeteners and to taste the food I have chosen.0 -
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Sugar and other so-called "simple carbs" like pasta and white bread can cause a glycemic response in your body. Your blood sugar goes up, your body releases insulin, and your blood sugar crashes. When it crashes you feel tired and crave sugar to bring your blood sugar back up again. Obviously everyone is different but this definitely happens to me. I call it the "Sugar roller coaster". Once I start eating sugar I find myself craving it all day long.
So yes, it's calories in and calories out but avoiding sugar makes it easier for me to eat fewer calories - and I feel better too, more consistent energy throughout the day. Eating smaller, more frequent meals helps too - since larger meals have a greater glycemic response (why you may feel tired after a large meal).
Stevia is ok. I agree that it's a lot stronger than sugar. Due the cost and the taste I use Splenda, but I try to limit it since it's an artificial sweetener and I wonder if all the health effects are fully understood just yet.
Pasta and white bread aren't simple carbs and unless you've got some medical condition your blood sugar shouldn't "crash". Insulin is there to regulate it in normal levels.0 -
Without putting any effort into it, sugar is often my lowest macro - I very seldom max out on the recommended MFP allowance (not that I am a big believer in that allowance, it just happens to be there, I ignore it). I am not trying to limit sugar, I just find that I reach for savory more than sweet as a preference.
I purchased some Equal Sweetener powder yesterday simply because I am getting creative with some overnight oats recipes and I feel that unlike most things I like - oatmeal seems to need a bit of extra sweetness and I am sticking to a very tight calorie limit so every bit counts. If it was not for the numbers, I would go with regular sugar.
I gave up having sugar in my coffee because I drink a lot and the calories add up, not because I think that sugar is of the devil.
I do however feel that the crazy low-fat diet craze of the nineties led to the creation of a lot of revolting over-sweetened low fat foods and I would love to see them go away for the sake of my taste buds - yogurt for example - so sweet you can gag but with a grainy fat free texture. Put the fat back and take out some of that sugar folks - it is time!
I wondered about getting Stevia, but I had heard about the after taste. I am sure I will try it at some point in the name of experimentation.
For me, eating at 1200, the numbers are everything and I am a fan of every calorie saver I can get my mitts on.0 -
As someone allergic to it, I've learned a lot about Stevia's negative side the hard way. There are things people should know before using Stevia.
Stevia interacts with several medications for blood pressure, diabetes (additionally, stevia doesn't support glycogen synthesis, which can cause additional issues for diabetics) and mental disorders (those who take Lithium should avoid Stevia especially). As with any herbal supplement, you should speak with your doctor if you are currently taking medications before use.
Stevia has been known to occasionally cause anaphylaxis, but this is more common in those that already have an allergy to chrysanthemums, marigolds, ragweed or daisies. Ragweed allergy is often referred to as "hayfever". If you have hayfever, it is likely you will be allergic to Stevia. Avoid it, or try at your own risk with a big bottle of benadryl nearby.
Stevia is known to cause digestive discomfort, and should be avoided by those with IBS, Crohns and related issues. There are some connections to liver and kidney issues, but there is not enough data yet. Overdosing on Stevia can seriously affect your body's ability to properly absorb carbohydrates, which sounds good if you don't understand biochemistry, but in reality is very, very bad. If you feel sluggish while using Stevia, cut back, as this is likely your issue.
Many people experience dizziness, body aches, and even numbness.
Stevia, like soy, is linked to hormonal issues, and should be avoided by those on hormonal therapies.
The Truvia brand of Stevia, however, makes a great pesticide when used on fruit flies. It starves them more thoroughly than NutraSweet, Equal, or Splenda, and has a 100% kill rate. They're starting to explore how it can be used. This is not due to the plant, but the alcohol they combine it with.
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FunkyTobias wrote: »It is a bit long to explain and a Dietitian can probably explain it well but sugar turns to fat easily.
Actually, it almost never turns to fat.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/74/6/707.full
That is great. Thanks. I can now take 10 to 15 spoon full of sugar while eating my normal meal and not gain a pound. We should have someone try this.
If you are not eating in a surplus, you won't. If the extra sugar puts you in a surplus you will store fat, but it won't be the sugar that's stored.
Here’s what happens with excess calories. Assume that all three conditions represent identical increases in caloric intake, just from each of the different macros. Here’s what happens mechanistically and why all three still make you fat:
1. Excess dietary fat is directly stored as fat
2. Excess dietary carbs increases carb oxidation, impairing fat oxidation; more of your daily fat intake is stored as fat
3.Excess dietary protein increases protein oxidation, impairing fat oxidation; more of your daily fat intake is stored as fat
Got it? All three situations make you fat, just through different mechanisms. Fat is directly stored and carbs and protein cause you to store the fat you’re eating by decreasing fat oxidation.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-we-get-fat.html/
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Thank you all for the information and opinion about Stevia and sugar.
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Sugar can add fat to your liver with metabolic diseases like NAFLD which is fatty liver disease. Stevia is not supposed to add anything to this condition.
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Stevia is great. It tastes great as long as you don't use too much, has zero calories, and is natural. And a tiny bottle lasts for months and months. I've been using it for quite a while.0
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Sugar and other so-called "simple carbs" like pasta and white bread can cause a glycemic response in your body. Your blood sugar goes up, your body releases insulin, and your blood sugar crashes. When it crashes you feel tired and crave sugar to bring your blood sugar back up again. Obviously everyone is different but this definitely happens to me. I call it the "Sugar roller coaster". Once I start eating sugar I find myself craving it all day long.
So yes, it's calories in and calories out but avoiding sugar makes it easier for me to eat fewer calories - and I feel better too, more consistent energy throughout the day. Eating smaller, more frequent meals helps too - since larger meals have a greater glycemic response (why you may feel tired after a large meal).
Stevia is ok. I agree that it's a lot stronger than sugar. Due the cost and the taste I use Splenda, but I try to limit it since it's an artificial sweetener and I wonder if all the health effects are fully understood just yet.
If you're not diabetic, your body shouldn't have a problem handling those simple-carbs. I'm diabetic so I do, but I still do eat pasta and other simple carbs, I just enjoy them in moderation. I eat to my meter, as most diabetics would say. If I want pasta and I know that I can safely have 45 or 60 grams of carbohydrate at dinner and still have normal glucose readings after two hours then I'll have it.
I personally use Splenda because that is what my husband can tolerate. I find it to be extremely sweet, so a half of a packet is more than enough in a 16 ounce coffee for me. It's really not a 1:1 correlation in how you use it in baking either. I made that mistake and ruined a whole batch of chocolate chip cookies.
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