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marwyvi
marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
anybody here with a success story of overcoming ED ? Or still struggling? I do myselft, i'm on a diet and my friends tell me to encorporate "cheat day" i'm very afraid not to get into an emocional eating cycle, but i'm also craving everything around me :(
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  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
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    Talk to your recovery team or psychiatrist.

    Your friends are stupid for suggesting a cheat day while you have an ED which involves binge eating.
  • CostaRica120
    CostaRica120 Posts: 274 Member
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    Pretty much all bingers are also dieters. Stop restricting.
  • marwyvi
    marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
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    Talk to your recovery team or psychiatrist.

    Your friends are stupid for suggesting a cheat day while you have an ED which involves binge eating.

    I've not told them. Haven't told anyone actually. I know what psychiatrists would say and i know the reasons behind it, just don't know how to satisfy my cravings without going on a rampage
  • marwyvi
    marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
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    Pretty much all bingers are also dieters. Stop restricting.

    I HAVE TO lose weight
  • slaite1
    slaite1 Posts: 1,307 Member
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    marwyvi wrote: »
    Talk to your recovery team or psychiatrist.

    Your friends are stupid for suggesting a cheat day while you have an ED which involves binge eating.

    I've not told them. Haven't told anyone actually. I know what psychiatrists would say and i know the reasons behind it, just don't know how to satisfy my cravings without going on a rampage

    Go see a specialist that can help you figure this out. You need specialized treatment for BED.

    Dieting is definitely a no-no when you are still in the grips of an ED. Perhaps try incorporating more food in moderation, or eating at maintenance? That's all I got-sorry. A professional will be much more helpful.
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    edited July 2015
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    marwyvi wrote: »
    Talk to your recovery team or psychiatrist.

    Your friends are stupid for suggesting a cheat day while you have an ED which involves binge eating.

    I've not told them. Haven't told anyone actually. I know what psychiatrists would say and i know the reasons behind it, just don't know how to satisfy my cravings without going on a rampage

    Stop asking MFP and talk to your recovery team and/or psychiatrist. We cannot help you OP.
  • triciab79
    triciab79 Posts: 1,713 Member
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    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.
  • marwyvi
    marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
    edited July 2015
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    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it
  • Lizzles4Shizzles
    Lizzles4Shizzles Posts: 122 Member
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    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    It takes more than will power to overcome psychological problems. Just like you wouldn't tell someone with severe depression or bi-polar disorder that they can get over it if they just had enough willpower, you can't expect to treat an eating disorder with sheer willpower. You need to involve professionals who can assist you in figuring out the best way to manage it.
  • slaite1
    slaite1 Posts: 1,307 Member
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    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    It takes more than will power to overcome psychological problems. Just like you wouldn't tell someone with severe depression or bi-polar disorder that they can get over it if they just had enough willpower, you can't expect to treat an eating disorder with sheer willpower. You need to involve professionals who can assist you in figuring out the best way to manage it.

    +1

    I would venture to say overcoming many psychological problems are about 1% willpower and 99% technique.
  • CostaRica120
    CostaRica120 Posts: 274 Member
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    "ED is 100% psychological problem".......not necessarily! Most people binge directly in response to their physical restriction and it becomes a cycle. A cycle that unfortunately gets all emotionally/mentally complicated. Check out Geneen Roth. I spent years in the diet-binge cycle. You have to stop dieting to stop the binges.
    You say you need to lose weight, but until you get out of this cycle, it's really hard (impossible) to lose weight long term. Treat the dieting, treat the binges and then you'll be able to start losing weight.
  • Lizzles4Shizzles
    Lizzles4Shizzles Posts: 122 Member
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    slaite1 wrote: »
    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    It takes more than will power to overcome psychological problems. Just like you wouldn't tell someone with severe depression or bi-polar disorder that they can get over it if they just had enough willpower, you can't expect to treat an eating disorder with sheer willpower. You need to involve professionals who can assist you in figuring out the best way to manage it.

    +1

    I would venture to say overcoming many psychological problems are about 1% willpower and 99% technique.

    Agreed.
  • CostaRica120
    CostaRica120 Posts: 274 Member
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    slaite1 wrote: »
    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    It takes more than will power to overcome psychological problems. Just like you wouldn't tell someone with severe depression or bi-polar disorder that they can get over it if they just had enough willpower, you can't expect to treat an eating disorder with sheer willpower. You need to involve professionals who can assist you in figuring out the best way to manage it.

    +1

    I would venture to say overcoming many psychological problems are about 1% willpower and 99% technique.

    Agreed.

    Absolutely. I don't believe in relying on willpower for overcoming EDs or for dieting for that matter. If you're fighting a battle against yourself, you're going to lose.

  • LifeInTheBikeLane
    LifeInTheBikeLane Posts: 345 Member
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    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    OP, this is something you can do. Willpower is not easy to come by but it is possible. Up until the last year my willpower was 0. I suffered greatly from bulimia (binging and purging) and emotion issues and it took a toll on my work life and home life. I lost weight, sure. But I gained a whole lot of unhealthy habits that were doing more harm then good. I first admitted I had an issue. It was then months before I decided I wanted to do something about it. I talked to my doctor. I then panicked (emotional) and decided to try and do it on my own. I no longer binge the way I used to and am able to realize when it is happening and stop myself before it gets out of hand. I still do it, though. Ever so often it will happen...and then ever so often I lose my emotional footing and everything happens. I feel this would have been nipped already if I had stuck with the doctor.

    So yes, this is possible. You just may want to go see your doctor. They can actually give you the tools necessary to take on the issue and handle it appropriately. An unhealthy relationship with food is never a good thing. Take it down now before it progresses beyond where you are.
  • slaite1
    slaite1 Posts: 1,307 Member
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    marwyvi wrote: »
    Pretty much all bingers are also dieters. Stop restricting.

    I HAVE TO lose weight

    You will never lose weight and keep it off until you overcome your ED.

    FYI-there is a binge eating support group on here you may want to check out. Lots of successes and people in progress. You'll notice all of the success stories have something in common-they had to give up the binge/restrict cycle.
  • marwyvi
    marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
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    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    OP, this is something you can do. Willpower is not easy to come by but it is possible. Up until the last year my willpower was 0. I suffered greatly from bulimia (binging and purging) and emotion issues and it took a toll on my work life and home life. I lost weight, sure. But I gained a whole lot of unhealthy habits that were doing more harm then good. I first admitted I had an issue. It was then months before I decided I wanted to do something about it. I talked to my doctor. I then panicked (emotional) and decided to try and do it on my own. I no longer binge the way I used to and am able to realize when it is happening and stop myself before it gets out of hand. I still do it, though. Ever so often it will happen...and then ever so often I lose my emotional footing and everything happens. I feel this would have been nipped already if I had stuck with the doctor.

    So yes, this is possible. You just may want to go see your doctor. They can actually give you the tools necessary to take on the issue and handle it appropriately. An unhealthy relationship with food is never a good thing. Take it down now before it progresses beyond where you are.

    Thank you so much, i always prefer to hear from people who have been there
  • supahdupahfitness
    supahdupahfitness Posts: 73 Member
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    Forget diets, they're flawed from the get go. You can't eat badly most of the time, then starve yourself to quickly skinny down when beach season rolls around. That's the basic concept of a diet, and it'll lead to a whole host of underlying problems and damage both physically and psychologically.

    What you need to do is use a three pronged attack for life: Diet, Exercise, Sleep. But the word diet, means what you eat, not that fad we just talked about. Lets save Exercise and Sleep for another question.

    When it comes to your diet, understand that it's life long and design it to give you the longest fullest life possible. This means cutting out processed junk and chemicals, understanding the benefits of organic, natural food and putting in a little work when it comes to looking for them in the supermarket. There's a whole host of foods out there you might not even know about! Offering healthy fats, better quality of life, better mental states, better sex, better emotional states and better physical condition. This, along with why you started, is what you should try to remember, when it comes to saying no to a sugar-glazed goodie, or simply saying enough is enough.

    One key thing to remember is that it actually takes time to ween off crappy food, there's stuff out there that's chemically designed to FEEL better in your mouth than a competing companies product and this crap is addictive. After weening off, you'll need to keep making the right choice for a little while, our brains, like any other muscle can be formed depending on how you train it. After a certain amount of time, and it varies from person to person and depending on the amount of effort you put in, you'll actually form a habit. It's up to you to make sure that it's a good one.

    I had an eating disorder. I don't anymore.

    Make the right choices, remember why, learn how to make it easier (spices and cooking lessons go a long way). And don't be afraid of it. It's ok to have a treat now and then, if you can't because you're afraid then it's already keeping you in the prison you think you're outrunning. You shouldn't have to run. Face it head on. You'll be alright. If you're smart enough to determine that an eating disorder exists, then that's half the battle won.
  • slaite1
    slaite1 Posts: 1,307 Member
    edited July 2015
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    Forget diets, they're flawed from the get go. You can't eat badly most of the time, then starve yourself to quickly skinny down when beach season rolls around. That's the basic concept of a diet, and it'll lead to a whole host of underlying problems and damage both physically and psychologically.

    What you need to do is use a three pronged attack for life: Diet, Exercise, Sleep. But the word diet, means what you eat, not that fad we just talked about. Lets save Exercise and Sleep for another question.

    When it comes to your diet, understand that it's life long and design it to give you the longest fullest life possible. This means cutting out processed junk and chemicals, understanding the benefits of organic, natural food and putting in a little work when it comes to looking for them in the supermarket. There's a whole host of foods out there you might not even know about! Offering healthy fats, better quality of life, better mental states, better sex, better emotional states and better physical condition. This, along with why you started, is what you should try to remember, when it comes to saying no to a sugar-glazed goodie, or simply saying enough is enough.

    One key thing to remember is that it actually takes time to ween off crappy food, there's stuff out there that's chemically designed to FEEL better in your mouth than a competing companies product and this crap is addictive. After weening off, you'll need to keep making the right choice for a little while, our brains, like any other muscle can be formed depending on how you train it. After a certain amount of time, and it varies from person to person and depending on the amount of effort you put in, you'll actually form a habit. It's up to you to make sure that it's a good one.

    I had an eating disorder. I don't anymore.

    Make the right choices, remember why, learn how to make it easier (spices and cooking lessons go a long way). And don't be afraid of it. It's ok to have a treat now and then, if you can't because you're afraid then it's already keeping you in the prison you think you're outrunning. You shouldn't have to run. Face it head on. You'll be alright. If you're smart enough to determine that an eating disorder exists, then that's half the battle won.

    Please ignore this.
    ----from someone who has been there
  • Pearsquared
    Pearsquared Posts: 1,656 Member
    edited July 2015
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    slaite1 wrote: »
    marwyvi wrote: »
    Pretty much all bingers are also dieters. Stop restricting.

    I HAVE TO lose weight

    You will never lose weight and keep it off until you overcome your ED.

    FYI-there is a binge eating support group on here you may want to check out. Lots of successes and people in progress. You'll notice all of the success stories have something in common-they had to give up the binge/restrict cycle.

    I'll second the binge eating support group. That's the best we can do on here - support you when you're struggling. I have struggled with binge eating ever since I moved away from home, and I was using it as a coping mechanism for loneliness and anxiety. I was also in a high-stress job that did not fit my personality, but took it out of desperation (it was 2011 and the economy was still terrible).

    I lost a lot of weight two years ago after starting a new job closer to my family, but fell back into heavy binge eating when I got put in another high stress situation (being a bridesmaid coupled with a promotion at my job that added too much responsibility at once). I ended up gaining 50 pounds in six months - that's a lot when you're 5'1'', and it took a huge toll on my health.

    I am extremely thankful to a coworker who related and recommended a therapist who I still go to today. It was extremely difficult, but with the help of psychotherapy, medication (I have an awesome and sympathetic GP), and exercise I've been able to repair my relationship with food and better cope with stressful situations without binge eating. I needed ALL THREE to get this far - changing my diet would have been useless at the time because I was only fixing the symptom, not the underlying cause. Now that I'm able to cope, losing weight again to get out of obesity is a possibility again.

    This took almost a year to do, so don't be hard on yourself if things don't go swimmingly all the time. It'll be so much easier if you go easy on yourself, and don't worry about losing weight until you get your binge eating under control. One step at a time.