Opinions on fruit, difficulty eating enough vegetables

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  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Veggies give you nutrients, too. If you limit yourself to fruit, you miss out on some of the goodness from the veggies. IMO, fruit tastes much better, but we need our veggies, too. It's probably less about sugar and more about nutrients.

    What you ought to do is ask the person who gave you this info what it was about. It's unfortunate that you didn't ask while you were there, but you can call them up and get your answers. :)

    There are so many ways to get veggies in. Alton Brown devoted entire shows to teaching people to make veggies in ways they might actually like (as well as sneaking them in on kids.) Try watching "Give Peas A Chance", "Field of Greens" other shows he did. They're on the Cooking channel. Maybe Netflix?

    I am going back in a few weeks for a follow-up. I was focused on writing things down and remembering what she told me. It takes me a while to formulate questions, but I can definitely ask some questions in August.

    That is also true. She did mention the sugar as an issue, but it might be out of concern of developing diabetes at my bmi. I'm sure there's a reason. Today I've been working on keeping to the 1/2 cup of fruits, and reducing the cheese, and it's going pretty well. I ate some tomatoes at lunch, and they were pretty good! I haven't had any cheese yet today, the protein I've had was from soymilk, almonds, peanut butter, and yogurt - there will be meat at dinner. That may be closer to more "milk and alternatives" than "meat and alternatives" but it's a start.

    Thanks for the suggestion! I don't really know how to cook much, but looking into something like that may be a start :)
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,556 Member
    kae612 wrote: »
    I can usually eat:
    Potato
    Steamed broccoli
    Steamed cauliflower (maybe raw as well, should attempt)
    Cucumber slices
    Green peas from frozen
    Corn
    Red peppers raw or cooked!!! :)
    Carrots roasted in butter (there is a lot of butter in the recipe, so I should try with less and see)
    Parsnips as above
    Steamed spinach (in small amounts, with other things eg 5 leafs in an omelette)
    Fried zucchini
    Fried mushrooms

    Now that I write it all out, it sounds like a more substantial list. The not eating lettuce/raw leafy greens thing makes salad a not-option, which is super weird and made me worry. But this looks like a more workable list than I was imagining.

    A salad doesn't have to include lettuce/raw leafy green things.

    From your list above ...

    Do you like broccoli raw, or only steamed? If you like raw broccoli too, try chopping up and mixing the following together:

    raw broccoli
    raw cauliflower
    cucumber slices
    red peppers

    And there you have it ... a salad!

    You could get creative and throw in some fried mushrooms too.

    Experiment ... have fun with it. Make up small amounts and if you really don't like it, move on to something else.

  • oh_happy_day
    oh_happy_day Posts: 1,137 Member
    That's actually quite a few vegies to work with! I think a key aspect will be cooking more, especially if you have issues with texture you can then control the way everything is prepared. Cooking seems daunting but you just start simple. There are stacks of tutorials on YouTube. In terms of curry, it can be super easy - chop vegies and meat/legumes, get a curry paste from the store - combine in a saucepan until cooked! Obviously it can get fancier but it can also be that simple. Which goes for cooking in general too - don't start with kale chips, try looking for recipes for roast vegetable salads etc. Google is your friend!

    I get the impression that your family may not be into healthy eating/cooking which can make it hard but you can totally do this! Invest in yourself and your health. There's so much help online and cooking doesn't have to be hard, and I promise it will make meeting your calorie and macro requirements so much easier.

    Also on the texture issues, have you considered seeing an occupational therapist or speech therapist? There are professionals who specialise in food/texture aversions.
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    edited July 2015
    I've never liked vegetables, but I've made a project out of finding some ways to prepare a variety of vegetables that are easy and delicious. It took some experimentation. I hate all the chopping, but I like frozen green beans, frozen spinach, frozen chard, frozen bell peppers, frozen peas, tomato sauces, and cauliflower, all of which make my life easy. I'm still not a person who eats 5 pounds of veggies a day, but I manage to have at least a few servings.

    If you like fruit, berries tend to be lower in sugar than mangoes and cherries.
  • ScottNY64
    ScottNY64 Posts: 1 Member
    As I am diabetic and looking to lose weight, my nutritionist reccomended several key things:

    1. No juice. If you want orange taste eat the orange as it contains all the nutrients and fiber so you will feel full. A glass of juice, depending on the size can have 4,5,6 oranges in it and all the sugar that comes with it. No fiber= sugar spike and cravings.

    2. High protein. Less red meat. More fish, chicken, tofu, greek yougurt, nuts, pure nut butters. Plenty of lists out there. Eggs. I hardboil a bunch and keep them in the fridge to take to work. Better than the candy machine when I get snacky.

    3. Yes vegetables. You will figure out what you like. Slowly switch the olive oil where you would use butter, but use a little butter for flavor. I blend a little to stretch the butter flavor.

    4.Eat 5 times a day small meals. I often split my meals into 2 parts. Make sure you eat a high protein breakfast. Keeps your blood sugar steady and before I get a chance to get HANGRY or low sugary I eat again. Takes a bit of work but now it's a routine.

    You can eat cheese but in small doses. and low fat types are much better than they used to be. Weigh the cheese. I found I was eating way too much.;-)

    Good luck and these are just a few of the lifestyle changes I needed to make. Everyone is different. What works for me might not work for you. most importantly don't give up just because you cheated a bit. Next day get back to it with an even firmer resolve. Best of luck.
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    A salad doesn't have to include lettuce/raw leafy green things.

    From your list above ...

    Do you like broccoli raw, or only steamed? If you like raw broccoli too, try chopping up and mixing the following together:

    raw broccoli
    raw cauliflower
    cucumber slices
    red peppers

    And there you have it ... a salad!

    You could get creative and throw in some fried mushrooms too.

    Experiment ... have fun with it. Make up small amounts and if you really don't like it, move on to something else.

    I don't really like raw broccoli, but it isn't going to make me gag so it's worth a shot! Thanks :)

    That's actually quite a few vegies to work with! I think a key aspect will be cooking more, especially if you have issues with texture you can then control the way everything is prepared. Cooking seems daunting but you just start simple. There are stacks of tutorials on YouTube. In terms of curry, it can be super easy - chop vegies and meat/legumes, get a curry paste from the store - combine in a saucepan until cooked! Obviously it can get fancier but it can also be that simple. Which goes for cooking in general too - don't start with kale chips, try looking for recipes for roast vegetable salads etc. Google is your friend!

    I get the impression that your family may not be into healthy eating/cooking which can make it hard but you can totally do this! Invest in yourself and your health. There's so much help online and cooking doesn't have to be hard, and I promise it will make meeting your calorie and macro requirements so much easier.

    Also on the texture issues, have you considered seeing an occupational therapist or speech therapist? There are professionals who specialise in food/texture aversions.

    Yeah, that would be best. :) Thanks!

    Yeah, it's not necessarily "unhealthy" food, but an unhealthy proportion - eg 2 tablespoons cooked peas with 1.5 cups of mashed potatoes with butter (a lot of butter). And a meat, but I don't necessarily like the meat, etc. And arguing with them to add more vegetables does not work, and the vegetables they buy are allocated for meals so I get in trouble if I snack on them. If I want to eat more vegetables I need to buy/make them myself.

    I saw an occupational therapist as a kid, but my speech is fine. It's improved a lot, I used to be really limited. But thanks for the suggestion!
    ScottNY64 wrote: »
    As I am diabetic and looking to lose weight, my nutritionist reccomended several key things:

    1. No juice. If you want orange taste eat the orange as it contains all the nutrients and fiber so you will feel full. A glass of juice, depending on the size can have 4,5,6 oranges in it and all the sugar that comes with it. No fiber= sugar spike and cravings.

    2. High protein. Less red meat. More fish, chicken, tofu, greek yougurt, nuts, pure nut butters. Plenty of lists out there. Eggs. I hardboil a bunch and keep them in the fridge to take to work. Better than the candy machine when I get snacky.

    3. Yes vegetables. You will figure out what you like. Slowly switch the olive oil where you would use butter, but use a little butter for flavor. I blend a little to stretch the butter flavor.

    4.Eat 5 times a day small meals. I often split my meals into 2 parts. Make sure you eat a high protein breakfast. Keeps your blood sugar steady and before I get a chance to get HANGRY or low sugary I eat again. Takes a bit of work but now it's a routine.

    You can eat cheese but in small doses. and low fat types are much better than they used to be. Weigh the cheese. I found I was eating way too much.;-)

    Good luck and these are just a few of the lifestyle changes I needed to make. Everyone is different. What works for me might not work for you. most importantly don't give up just because you cheated a bit. Next day get back to it with an even firmer resolve. Best of luck.

    Thanks for all the suggestions! Eating more protein at breakfast is a goal now, I realized with just peanut butter on toast and milk in my tea I was not getting very much in the mornings.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    edited July 2015
    kae612 wrote: »

    That's a really good idea, thanks!

    I can usually eat:
    Potato
    Steamed broccoli
    Steamed cauliflower (maybe raw as well, should attempt)
    Cucumber slices
    Green peas from frozen
    Corn
    Red peppers raw or cooked!!! :)
    Carrots roasted in butter (there is a lot of butter in the recipe, so I should try with less and see)
    Parsnips as above
    Steamed spinach (in small amounts, with other things eg 5 leafs in an omelette)
    Fried zucchini
    Fried mushrooms

    Now that I write it all out, it sounds like a more substantial list. The not eating lettuce/raw leafy greens thing makes salad a not-option, which is super weird and made me worry. But this looks like a more workable list than I was imagining.


    I love curry, but I don't know how to make it. I'm pretty limited at cooking, but I'm hoping to get more comfortable in the kitchen. I have put spinach in smoothies before, and as long as I only put in a little it tastes fine. The problem is I couldn't finish a small bag from the grocery store in the 4 days before it wilts and gets mushy, so it seemed wasteful to get it and only use 4 leafs in a smoothie for a couple days. No one else will eat it :/

    Thanks so much everyone!!!

    Sounds like you would benefit from a crock pot or other slow cooker. Your preferred veggies work really well incorporated into dishes and there are tons of recipes for stews and curries that incorporate meats and veggies but are very easy to make. The advantage of a slow cooker is that you dump the stuff in and let it sit all day. Once in a while you have to do something at the end of cooking like shred the meat or thicken juices with a little cornstarch (or my favorite: throw in come dry rice for the last hour so it cooks and absorbs the extra liquid and I don't have to cook the rice separately in a different pan). If you have access to a slow cooker, here is my favorite chicken curry recipe:

    Slow Cooker Chicken Curry ( 4 servings)

    2.00 tbsp(s), Red Wine Vinegar
    1.00 tbsp(s), Tomato Paste
    2.00 tsp(s), Garam Masala
    2.00 tsp(s), Madras Curry Powder (aka sweet curry powder)
    2.00 clove(s), Garlic - Raw
    1.00 lb(s), New Red Potato With Skin
    1.00 container (1 4/5 cups ea.), Reduced Sodium Diced Tomatoes
    1.00 Tsp (4 g), Ginger Paste
    24.00 oz , Chicken Thigh Raw Boneless Skinless
    1.00 cup dry Instant Brown Rice

    Place all ingredients except the rice into a crock pot. Cook on low 6-8 hours. At least 30 minutes before serving, shred the chicken with 2 forks and add rice and some water if needed to make at least 1 cup excess liquid for the rice to absorb. Cover and cook another 30 minutes or more until rice is tender.

    ETA: dump the nutritionist and have your doctor set you up with a Registered Dietician instead.
  • cindyangotti
    cindyangotti Posts: 294 Member
    I would just like to say that I have lost over 100 pounds and my diet includes fruit. I have at least 3 servings a day. Eating fruit is not bad. It has lots of fiber and vitamins.

    People do not get fat from eating fruit.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    I would just like to say that I have lost over 100 pounds and my diet includes fruit. I have at least 3 servings a day. Eating fruit is not bad. It has lots of fiber and vitamins.

    People do not get fat from eating fruit.

    They can from eating too much of it, just like eating too much of anything. On the other hand, fruit is a wonderful and tasty way to get micronutrients and fiber into a daily diet. I have to limit it because of having to eat a reduced carb diet but I really enjoy my daily serving.

  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    earlnabby wrote: »
    I would just like to say that I have lost over 100 pounds and my diet includes fruit. I have at least 3 servings a day. Eating fruit is not bad. It has lots of fiber and vitamins.

    People do not get fat from eating fruit.

    They can from eating too much of it, just like eating too much of anything. On the other hand, fruit is a wonderful and tasty way to get micronutrients and fiber into a daily diet. I have to limit it because of having to eat a reduced carb diet but I really enjoy my daily serving.

    Exactly. I can easily eat 3 servings of fruit with breakfast (like I did today...oops). 3 servings a day is fine, but say 6 servings a day is probably overdoing it. I probably shouldn't have any more fruit today, or only one other serving. But it's challenging for me! The dietician mentioned I could have more blueberries than mangoes, for example, so I'm switching that up a bit. But still, overall reduction to a reasonable amount is a challenge for me.
    earlnabby wrote: »

    Sounds like you would benefit from a crock pot or other slow cooker. Your preferred veggies work really well incorporated into dishes and there are tons of recipes for stews and curries that incorporate meats and veggies but are very easy to make. The advantage of a slow cooker is that you dump the stuff in and let it sit all day. Once in a while you have to do something at the end of cooking like shred the meat or thicken juices with a little cornstarch (or my favorite: throw in come dry rice for the last hour so it cooks and absorbs the extra liquid and I don't have to cook the rice separately in a different pan). If you have access to a slow cooker, here is my favorite chicken curry recipe:

    Slow Cooker Chicken Curry ( 4 servings)

    2.00 tbsp(s), Red Wine Vinegar
    1.00 tbsp(s), Tomato Paste
    2.00 tsp(s), Garam Masala
    2.00 tsp(s), Madras Curry Powder (aka sweet curry powder)
    2.00 clove(s), Garlic - Raw
    1.00 lb(s), New Red Potato With Skin
    1.00 container (1 4/5 cups ea.), Reduced Sodium Diced Tomatoes
    1.00 Tsp (4 g), Ginger Paste
    24.00 oz , Chicken Thigh Raw Boneless Skinless
    1.00 cup dry Instant Brown Rice

    Place all ingredients except the rice into a crock pot. Cook on low 6-8 hours. At least 30 minutes before serving, shred the chicken with 2 forks and add rice and some water if needed to make at least 1 cup excess liquid for the rice to absorb. Cover and cook another 30 minutes or more until rice is tender.

    ETA: dump the nutritionist and have your doctor set you up with a Registered Dietician instead.

    I messed up and used the wrong word, she is a registered dietician! Sorry for the confusion!

    We have a slow cooker, and that sounds like a really good recipe thanks! I would have to sort of "book" the slow cooker in advance and go buy all of that on my own, because we don't have any of those ingredients in the house. (and I have no idea how to prepare chicken, and raw meat freaks me out, so that wouldn't be included). I'll definitely copy that down, thanks!
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    The good thing about fruit, for me, is that I like it raw, and it contains vitamins that are destroyed in cooking. I hate raw vegetables.
  • AsISmile
    AsISmile Posts: 1,004 Member
    You don't even really need a crockpot. A lot of different vegetables can be simply cut up, and be put in a pan with some curry paste and water for 10-15 minutes.
    OP, get a jar of curry paste and just look at the instructions. You can vary your vegetables and protein to suit your preference.
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    AsISmile wrote: »
    You don't even really need a crockpot. A lot of different vegetables can be simply cut up, and be put in a pan with some curry paste and water for 10-15 minutes.
    OP, get a jar of curry paste and just look at the instructions. You can vary your vegetables and protein to suit your preference.

    Oh awesome. That's a better length of time. Do you have any recommendations for a kind of curry paste? Ingredients to look for, etc?
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    kae612 wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    I would just like to say that I have lost over 100 pounds and my diet includes fruit. I have at least 3 servings a day. Eating fruit is not bad. It has lots of fiber and vitamins.

    People do not get fat from eating fruit.

    They can from eating too much of it, just like eating too much of anything. On the other hand, fruit is a wonderful and tasty way to get micronutrients and fiber into a daily diet. I have to limit it because of having to eat a reduced carb diet but I really enjoy my daily serving.

    Exactly. I can easily eat 3 servings of fruit with breakfast (like I did today...oops). 3 servings a day is fine, but say 6 servings a day is probably overdoing it. I probably shouldn't have any more fruit today, or only one other serving. But it's challenging for me! The dietician mentioned I could have more blueberries than mangoes, for example, so I'm switching that up a bit. But still, overall reduction to a reasonable amount is a challenge for me.
    earlnabby wrote: »

    Sounds like you would benefit from a crock pot or other slow cooker. Your preferred veggies work really well incorporated into dishes and there are tons of recipes for stews and curries that incorporate meats and veggies but are very easy to make. The advantage of a slow cooker is that you dump the stuff in and let it sit all day. Once in a while you have to do something at the end of cooking like shred the meat or thicken juices with a little cornstarch (or my favorite: throw in come dry rice for the last hour so it cooks and absorbs the extra liquid and I don't have to cook the rice separately in a different pan). If you have access to a slow cooker, here is my favorite chicken curry recipe:

    Slow Cooker Chicken Curry ( 4 servings)

    2.00 tbsp(s), Red Wine Vinegar
    1.00 tbsp(s), Tomato Paste
    2.00 tsp(s), Garam Masala
    2.00 tsp(s), Madras Curry Powder (aka sweet curry powder)
    2.00 clove(s), Garlic - Raw
    1.00 lb(s), New Red Potato With Skin
    1.00 container (1 4/5 cups ea.), Reduced Sodium Diced Tomatoes
    1.00 Tsp (4 g), Ginger Paste
    24.00 oz , Chicken Thigh Raw Boneless Skinless
    1.00 cup dry Instant Brown Rice

    Place all ingredients except the rice into a crock pot. Cook on low 6-8 hours. At least 30 minutes before serving, shred the chicken with 2 forks and add rice and some water if needed to make at least 1 cup excess liquid for the rice to absorb. Cover and cook another 30 minutes or more until rice is tender.

    ETA: dump the nutritionist and have your doctor set you up with a Registered Dietician instead.

    I messed up and used the wrong word, she is a registered dietician! Sorry for the confusion!

    We have a slow cooker, and that sounds like a really good recipe thanks! I would have to sort of "book" the slow cooker in advance and go buy all of that on my own, because we don't have any of those ingredients in the house. (and I have no idea how to prepare chicken, and raw meat freaks me out, so that wouldn't be included). I'll definitely copy that down, thanks!

    That is the beauty of a slow cooker. You don't have to "prepare" the meat. You tear open the plastic and dump it in (you can even use it frozen) and it cooks all day so you do not even have to touch raw meat.
    AsISmile wrote: »
    You don't even really need a crockpot. A lot of different vegetables can be simply cut up, and be put in a pan with some curry paste and water for 10-15 minutes.
    OP, get a jar of curry paste and just look at the instructions. You can vary your vegetables and protein to suit your preference.

    The problem with the jarred curry paste is the sugar and sodium in it, same as any other prepared convenience foods. Also, you have to pay attention to what you are doing whereas, with a slow cooker, you dump and forget. They are nice for people with minimal time and/or beginner cooks.

  • AsISmile
    AsISmile Posts: 1,004 Member
    edited July 2015
    earlnabby wrote: »
    AsISmile wrote: »
    You don't even really need a crockpot. A lot of different vegetables can be simply cut up, and be put in a pan with some curry paste and water for 10-15 minutes.
    OP, get a jar of curry paste and just look at the instructions. You can vary your vegetables and protein to suit your preference.

    The problem with the jarred curry paste is the sugar and sodium in it, same as any other prepared convenience foods. Also, you have to pay attention to what you are doing whereas, with a slow cooker, you dump and forget. They are nice for people with minimal time and/or beginner cooks.

    Wow, calm down. I am not bashing slow cookers. Didn't read till later that OP has one.
    And yes, jarred paste might have sugar and sodium, but overall cooking at home using paste will probably be better than ordering take out.
    I was just trying to tell OP that even with little cooking experience, making your own curry does not have to be hard.

    Anyway OP, try which ever method you like, and don't be afraid to use vegetables you like.
    Some of my favorites are cauliflower, leek and chickpeas.
    Also, some of the recipes I use has us add in some frozen peas for the last 3 minutes the rice is boiling. So some extra vegetables in the form of peas with your rice.
  • cindyangotti
    cindyangotti Posts: 294 Member
    earlnabby wrote: »
    I would just like to say that I have lost over 100 pounds and my diet includes fruit. I have at least 3 servings a day. Eating fruit is not bad. It has lots of fiber and vitamins.

    People do not get fat from eating fruit.

    They can from eating too much of it, just like eating too much of anything. On the other hand, fruit is a wonderful and tasty way to get micronutrients and fiber into a daily diet. I have to limit it because of having to eat a reduced carb diet but I really enjoy my daily serving.
    Of course. I wasn't suggesting eating too much of it! lol
  • kvansteen
    kvansteen Posts: 82 Member
    Try this recipe for roasted vegetables. You can use whatever you want (except celery which tastes gross roasted). Yesterday I made it with 2 skin-on red potatoes, 2 beets, 1 fennel bulb, and 2 small sweet onions. My picky three year old loved three-year-old loved the fennel and onions, and my one year old ate up the beets. I used olive oil, which is considered a "healthy fat" and will help keep you full. Here is the general recipe:

    Vegetables cut up into 1" cubes (whatever you have on hand)
    1/4 cup oil (I used olive)
    2 tbsp Parmesan cheese
    1 tsp paprika
    1 tsp salt
    1/2 tsp garlic powder
    1/2 tsp pepper

    Preheat oven to 425 degrees. Combine everything in a large bowl (or bag and shake). Spread onto a large baking sheet into a single layer. Cook for 25-35 minutes, turning with a spatula once while baking. Bake until golden brown and tender.

    Also as far as the dairy thing goes, milk has lactose in it which your body converts to sugar. Whatever sugar your body doesn't use, is converted to fat. I also try to stay away from dairy. A lot of fruits are high in sugar, and without a lot of fiber, not that good for you. I would eat fruits where you also eat the seed such as berries; they have more fiber and will help keep you full without a lot of sugar. I also try to replace sugar in my coffee with honey. It still sweetens it, but takes longer for your body to digest, preventing the insulin spike that occurs after a usual Starbucks frappuccino. Good luck!
  • litsy3
    litsy3 Posts: 783 Member
    http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/mar/03/cauliflower-chickpea-curry-recipe?INTCMP=SRCH

    This is an easy cauliflower curry recipe. It works really well with zucchini, eggplant, or large flat mushrooms instead of the cauliflower (you can just slice and add any of those to the pan without boiling first).
  • Holly_Wood_888
    Holly_Wood_888 Posts: 268 Member
    Im not surprised that she told you to eat less cheese - dairy is fatty and unnecessary although we all enjoy the taste.
    Keep on the fruit - it is DEFINETLY a better alternative to refined sugar and carby junk food! I lost 23 pounds on a program that had me eating 40z of fruit with lunch and 4oz of fruit with dinner.

    I wonder if you could manage to eat turnip and squash? Both take an effort to cook but are so worth it !
    also, try stir frys, throwing your lean meat in with snap peas, broccoli, peppers, mushrooms and onions is a good way to get some veggies, putting soya sauce on or finding another sauce like Dianas just might help you :) Baked Asparagus or brussel sprouts with olive oil drissled on top, garlic and even a bit of parmesan cheese if you like is quite tasty
  • ASKyle
    ASKyle Posts: 1,475 Member
    "Eat less fruit" might be my least favorite piece of advice I see around here.

    What do you think people are going to eat instead of fruit? More vegetables? Doubtful.

    I'd also really like to see someone obese from eating JUST fruit. I don't think it exists.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    AsISmile wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    AsISmile wrote: »
    You don't even really need a crockpot. A lot of different vegetables can be simply cut up, and be put in a pan with some curry paste and water for 10-15 minutes.
    OP, get a jar of curry paste and just look at the instructions. You can vary your vegetables and protein to suit your preference.

    The problem with the jarred curry paste is the sugar and sodium in it, same as any other prepared convenience foods. Also, you have to pay attention to what you are doing whereas, with a slow cooker, you dump and forget. They are nice for people with minimal time and/or beginner cooks.

    Wow, calm down. I am not bashing slow cookers. Didn't read till later that OP has one.
    And yes, jarred paste might have sugar and sodium, but overall cooking at home using paste will probably be better than ordering take out.
    I was just trying to tell OP that even with little cooking experience, making your own curry does not have to be hard.

    Anyway OP, try which ever method you like, and don't be afraid to use vegetables you like.
    Some of my favorites are cauliflower, leek and chickpeas.
    Also, some of the recipes I use has us add in some frozen peas for the last 3 minutes the rice is boiling. So some extra vegetables in the form of peas with your rice.

    I know you weren't bashing slow cookers. My point was that, for someone totally inexperienced with cooking, stovetop dishes can be very intimidating and that convenience foods may not be healthy choices (depending on what it is and what your macro and micro targets are).

  • louubelle16
    louubelle16 Posts: 579 Member
    I don't like lettuce either, but still make great salads but have extra cucumber, avocado and tomato instead to bulk it up. I wouldn't say it makes a difference at all, and a few people at work said how much nicer my salads looked than theirs so they do it too.

    As others have said, it's just about finding out ways that work for you. Use pinterest or google to search for recipes with your favourite veggies in and go from there. You listed a fair few veggies that can be added to most dishes to get some extra veg into your diet, e.g. corn and peas. You could also go down the route of 'hiding' veg in food like my friend does to encourage her husband & kids to eat more veg (e.g. grating carrot into pasta sauces). There are loads of ideas for doing this, again, with a quick online search.

    I would be really surprised at any dietician that has said you shouldn't eat two/three portions of fruit a day, but certain fruits are higher in sugar than others so google a list to refer to if you are worried about the sugar content.
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  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    edited July 2015
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Also, yes, I agree with others that it's worthwhile to try the many many different veggies out there and the many many ways to prepare them. Sounds like you have some exceptional aversion or something, but I gotta say picky eating is something I don't really understand or sympathize much with.

    Picky eating when it comes to vegetables is something I don't understand either, especially when people lump all vegetables together as one group.

    Vegetables are different ... I don't like the flavour of peppers, especially green peppers. But thankfully snap peas don't taste anything like peppers. My husband doesn't like the texture of peas, but fortunately broccoli has a completely different texture.


    When it comes to veggies, buy one, try it several different ways, and then decide if it's a keeper or not. Don't buy a whole drawer full of the things. Just one at a time. Try it raw, try it steamed, try it roasted, try it with salt and pepper.
    kae612 wrote: »
    I cannot eat mayonnaise, salad dressings,

    And what do mayonnaise and salad dressings have to do with eating vegetables?

    I understand being "picky" about vegetables. If a parent grew up not eating veggies....this is likely what they passed down to their children. If you didn't grow up trying new things, you are kind of lost. OP - new tastes take time. If you tried veggie A .....once, that doesn't mean you don't like it (forever). Try it several times...and then move on. Different cooking methods yield different textures.

    I think the mayo and salad dressing thing is "old school" dieting. OP - dietary fat does not make you fat. I roast veggies in olive oil: http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/food-and-nutrition/faq-20058439

    Some people do have medical issues with saturated fat (butter)....high cholesterol, not everybody. The only truely bad fat is trans-fats...avoid those like the plague.
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  • ASKyle
    ASKyle Posts: 1,475 Member
    LLNN122 wrote: »
    ASKyle wrote: »
    "Eat less fruit" might be my least favorite piece of advice I see around here.

    What do you think people are going to eat instead of fruit? More vegetables? Doubtful.

    I'd also really like to see someone obese from eating JUST fruit. I don't think it exists.

    Fruit on its own will not make someone obese, but some may have sugar/insulin issues that limit how much fruit they can eat. Some fruit or too much of it (even if avoiding all other types of sugar) can cause someone's blood sugar to go way above a normal range.

    Looks like I forgot to add my "unless you have a medical condition" statement.

    What I said applies to the VAST majority of the population. Fruit isn't making people obese.
  • Katzedernacht
    Katzedernacht Posts: 266 Member
    yarwell wrote: »
    Don't go bad mouthing them fruits,they'll feel bad.

    They do have a form of sugar but thanks to the fiber they contain they won't cause maniac spikes,unless you just drink the juice, that's another story.

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    A fairly similar story.

    You just chose a fruit that is well known for being specially sweet. You dislike oranges, I get it.

    Nah seriously, it's way better to eat the fruit whole, it is different meh.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    ASKyle wrote: »
    LLNN122 wrote: »
    ASKyle wrote: »
    "Eat less fruit" might be my least favorite piece of advice I see around here.

    What do you think people are going to eat instead of fruit? More vegetables? Doubtful.

    I'd also really like to see someone obese from eating JUST fruit. I don't think it exists.

    Fruit on its own will not make someone obese, but some may have sugar/insulin issues that limit how much fruit they can eat. Some fruit or too much of it (even if avoiding all other types of sugar) can cause someone's blood sugar to go way above a normal range.

    Looks like I forgot to add my "unless you have a medical condition" statement.

    What I said applies to the VAST majority of the population. Fruit isn't making people obese.

    Agreed. The only thing making people obese is eating more calories than they burn.