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MK608
MK608 Posts: 47 Member
I've done my best to search around for old posts about this specific part of the topic, but to no avail. I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I've been trying to eat back my calories from exercise as per MFP's recommendation; however, when I do eat back even a majority of the calories, I do not lose ANY weight. Sometimes I gain! I wear a HRM when I workout so I know exactly how many calories I am burning and try to journal as honestly and accurately as possible. Any advice? Thanks!

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  • James1935
    James1935 Posts: 37 Member
    I'm the same - very frustrating....
  • moontyrant
    moontyrant Posts: 160 Member
    If eating back your exercise calories stalls your weight loss, then don't eat all your calories back. Eat back half of your exercise calories if you must, but find out what works for you. Do what works because it works. Don't do what people say you should do because Dr. Oz/Internet says so/broscience.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    Do you weigh your food?? If your just guessing you could be way off. Also did you just start eating your exercise calories back??
  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
    Height, current weight, goal weight, your calorie goal, your exercise routine, and open your food diary.
  • HollisGrant
    HollisGrant Posts: 2,022 Member
    I eat them back if I'm hungry, otherwise I don't. So far that's working for me. I'm not starving by any means.
  • Calliope610
    Calliope610 Posts: 3,783 Member
    How much weight to you have to lose? What is your daily caloric requirement? What method did you use to get that number? What is your activity level? Do you exercise on a regular basis?

    More info is needed in order to make any suggestions.
  • I'm not an expert, but from some online reading:

    What kind of workouts are you doing? If you are gaining muscles your numbers will decrease slower but you are losing inches and will look better in the long run.

    Look at you calories from carbs vs fat. Some people process carbs better some don't. Maybe altering your ratios will help.

    Lots of salt and carbs will make you retain water and have bigger numbers.

    How often are you weighing yourself? 1 pound a week is healthy weight loss.
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
    Hate to add to all the questions, but I have to ask - what kind of HRM are you using? Not all are made the same. Does it have a chest strap?
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Are you subtracting the calories MFP already knows about from the calories on your HRM ? At least 1 calorie per minute is already in there for your BMR & sedentary, so it'll get accounted twice if you use the whole HRM reading.
  • HeidiCooksSupper
    HeidiCooksSupper Posts: 3,839 Member
    Any figures of calories needed or burned given by any calculator for any individual, food, or exercise are only estimates. As the infomercials say, "Results vary." If the average estimate isn't working for you, vary your consumption and or/activities until the desired result is achieved.
  • trisH_7183
    trisH_7183 Posts: 1,486 Member
    I don't eat them back,cause it adds too much food.That's just me,know it works for a lot of people.

    Are you drinking all your water? Eating mostly healthy? Do you measure your food by weighing or

    With measuring cups & spoons? Are you doing so much exercise,it gives you more calories than you need?

    I'm not an expert,hope you find the help you need.
  • reach4thestar
    reach4thestar Posts: 174 Member
    I eat them back if I'm hungry, otherwise I don't. So far that's working for me. I'm not starving by any means.

    THIS...just listen to tummy rumbling :)
  • MK608
    MK608 Posts: 47 Member
    Thanks for all the suggestions already, I appreciate it. To try to answer the questions people are asking (I also opened my food diary):

    Just started trying to eat back calories recently
    I'm 5/2. CW: 140.8 and my GW is 125
    Calorie goal is 1,200
    I exercise 5 days per week, cardio and strength each day (burn 400-650 calories per day typically)
    I use the Polar FT60 HRM and yes, it has a chest strap
    I have linked my apps so that my calories burned are only counted 1 x
  • bethlaf
    bethlaf Posts: 954 Member
    lots of us have messed up metabolisms, that burn less to start with , so eating back all the exercise calories is not a good idea, personally wouldn't recommend doing not more than HALF the exercise calories
  • EmilyOfTheSun
    EmilyOfTheSun Posts: 1,548 Member
    Are you logging your food accurately?
    Get a food scale. It's very beneficial.
  • LizL217
    LizL217 Posts: 217 Member
    How much time are you giving each method? Are you talking about day-to-day changes, or are you eating back your exercise calories consistently over a period of weeks and still seeing no loss/gains?

    Your weight will fluctuate from day to day, so certainly don't expect instant weight loss the day after your workout (especially since exercise can make your body retain some extra water).

    Also, HRMs are not always 100% accurate, nor is the estimate that MFP gives you for how many calories you should net to achieve a certain amount of weight loss. The estimates are based on averages, and not every human being is exactly average.

    What I would recommend is the following 6-WEEK experiment:

    1) Start by weighing yourself every morning for a week, and taking basic measurements (waist, hips, thighs, arms). Take the averages of these measurements and call that your Week 1 starting point.

    2) Every day for 6 weeks, net the number of calories that MFP recommends. Try to do so very consistently every day. Don't think of that calorie level as a maximum, think of it as a target. You want to get as close to the target as you can, every day.

    3) During the 6 weeks, record how you feel, how your workouts are going, whether you're tired or sluggish or any other changes to your body or mood.

    4) For the final week, record your weight every day and take your measurements every day. Take these averages and call that your Week 6 ending point.

    5) Compare your starting point to your ending point. Did you gain or lose? Did you add inches, or subtract? Do you feel tired or energized? Did you get stronger or weaker in your exercises (doing weight training throughout will also give you a more measurable sense of whether you're getting stronger or weaker).
    * If you gained weight and you added inches, you should lower your calorie target.
    * If you gained weight but lost inches, you're retaining muscle mass and are probably on the path toward a rockin' strong body. Yay! This is why the measurements are important, as weight won't give you the complete picture. Keep at this calorie target for another 6 weeks and see if you keep losing.
    * If you lost weight but gained inches, you probably lost some muscle and added some fat, which is not what you want at all. Re-evaluate what you're eating every day and whether your exercise routine is promoting muscle retention/growth.
    * If you lost weight and lost inches, but feel terrible and seem to be getting weaker, you probably set your calorie level too low.
    * If you lost weight and lost inches and feel great, then you should keep doing what you're doing!

    Unfortunately MFP and your HRM are just tools, they won't be able to give you all the answers. A bit of (controlled and scientific) trial and error is the best way to find out how your body responds to various levels of energy intake and output.
  • sarajeanelles
    sarajeanelles Posts: 55 Member
    I am the exact same way. I don't have much more to lose (I'm 5'10 and 153 now, trying to get back to pre baby weight of 148) and if I do eat back my exercise cals I do not lose anything. I also use a HRM, a Polar FT4 and I do Spin class and weights 5 days a week, usually burning anywhere from 550-900 calories a session. I do not weigh my food, but I eat out nearly every night and other than fruit and veggies and veggie burger type things I don't eat much else at the house so I don't feel that I need a scale since I'm not eating cuts of meat, etc. and I look up ALL of my food when I eat out. I have finally figured out that if I put in my spin and weights sessions at 100-200 calories each and only eat back that much of them then I lose about a pound a week. I absolutely cannot eat back all of my exercise calories, I tried it and it doesn't work for me. So basically my recommendation is to only eat back a portion of your exercise cals, I know there are people here who will say that you can eat them all back and still lose but that simply is not true for everyone. I was overweight up until I was 17 years old (over 215 lbs) and most of my family is overweight, I lost the weight 11 years ago and have kept it off ever since. even through a pregnancy and after. it's in my genes and that's just the way it is for me.
  • kennethmgreen
    kennethmgreen Posts: 1,759 Member
    Height, current weight, goal weight, your calorie goal, your exercise routine, and open your food diary.
    Yep. I see that you did come back and provide that info.

    But the fact that people are willing to jump in and offer advice so quickly, on so little information, is indicative of the problem. "Eat back your exercise calories" seems to be more a movement or ideology than simply how the math of MFP was designed. And people will have opinions about ideologies.

    I suspect that is the problem you alluded to in your OP when you said you did a search and couldn't find what you are looking for. (assuming you are looking for specifics about eating back exercise calories and still gaining weight). Because I know there are plenty of search results related to eating back exercise calories.

    You wrote in your follow-up: "Just started trying to eat back calories recently" - Whatever you do, try to be patient with making changes to your routine. Our bodies don't respond the way our TV does when we change the channel. It takes time. Don't be in a rush.
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    I've done my best to search around for old posts about this specific part of the topic, but to no avail. I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I've been trying to eat back my calories from exercise as per MFP's recommendation; however, when I do eat back even a majority of the calories, I do not lose ANY weight. Sometimes I gain! I wear a HRM when I workout so I know exactly how many calories I am burning and try to journal as honestly and accurately as possible. Any advice? Thanks!
    The bold part is wrong. There's no way to know exactly. And if you are cycling or running in a straight line you get a good idea, but if you're not doing a straight out cardio based workout then the HRMs can be off. They're off by a lot for strength training workouts or yoga or sitting around for example. The HRMs get your calories via your heart rate under cardio conditions. If you're sitting down on a hot day or get a fright or try to hold something heavy your heart rate can spike but you're not burning the same amount of calories. The math in the HRMs are based on cardio.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    You have only been logging since May 28th and have some missing days.

    You need to log accurately and consistently before deciding whether something is working or not.

    Also, are you using a digital food scale?
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    I've done my best to search around for old posts about this specific part of the topic, but to no avail. I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I've been trying to eat back my calories from exercise as per MFP's recommendation; however, when I do eat back even a majority of the calories, I do not lose ANY weight. Sometimes I gain! I wear a HRM when I workout so I know exactly how many calories I am burning and try to journal as honestly and accurately as possible. Any advice? Thanks!
    Are you using the HRM for weight lifting? Cause if you are, it's OVER ESTIMATES calorie burn.

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  • HealthWoke0ish
    HealthWoke0ish Posts: 2,078 Member
    Are you using a digital food scale?

    This made a huge difference for me...
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    You should calculate your TDEE and then set your calorie goal at 20% below TDEE. Don't eat back exercise calories as that would be accounted for in your TDEE. Only eat back exercise calories if you have an exceptionally active day. This method is outlined very well in 'The New Rules of Lifting for Women'. I highly recommend that you read it.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I've done my best to search around for old posts about this specific part of the topic, but to no avail. I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I've been trying to eat back my calories from exercise as per MFP's recommendation; however, when I do eat back even a majority of the calories, I do not lose ANY weight. Sometimes I gain! I wear a HRM when I workout so I know exactly how many calories I am burning and try to journal as honestly and accurately as possible. Any advice? Thanks!

    You're eating more than you think or you're not burning as many as you think.

    I see thread after thread on MFP about people eating back exercise calories and not losing.... and seriously almost all of them are wearing an HRM.

    HRMs that give "calorie" readouts are horrendous.
  • Isakizza
    Isakizza Posts: 754 Member
    I don't always trust MFP calculations on how many calories I burn on my workouts or on food. It's just an esimate. For that reason, I only eat back 50-75% of my workout calories.

    I also adjust the calories burned myself. MFP says I burn over 1000 calories on elliptical for 60 mins. That's insane, do you realize how hard it is actually is to burn 1000 calories, lol. It took me 90 mins to actually get to 900 one time. This is why I adjust it myself.

    *Food scale is also a great idea.
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  • derekj222
    derekj222 Posts: 370 Member
    STOP with the"fun calories"...M&Ms, wine, bacon, pizza....take a step back and think, "would I eat these if i truly wanted to lose weight?" Answer is probably no. When you can lose the weight, then start incorporating healthier versions of these foods back into your diet.