Did anyone watch "Extreme Weight Loss" last night.
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Weight loss includes muscle loss. Especially with extreme high deficit diets.KeyserSoze1313 wrote: »nordlead2005 wrote: »elkhunter7x6 wrote: »I have never watched any of these shows until last nights episode of "Extreme Weight Loss". The lady started at 296lbs and after 3 months she was down to 215. Three months later she weighed 161lbs! That's 135lbs lost in 6 months. She went on to lose another 13lbs in the next 6 months to finish at 148lbs! She did end up having skin removal surgeries but she looked so much healthier and happier after a year.
So anyways based on the info that I see tossed around here, how is it even possible to loose a 135lbs in 6 months? That is an average of 5.625lbs a week. So based on 3500cals being close to 1 lb that would mean that she was eating at a 19687 calorie deficit. She had two trainers and a nutritionist working with her. Surely they did not push her at an unsafe pace?
Your fist mistake is assuming they lost 100% fat instead of lots of muscle.
Muscle is ~600 calories/lb. If we assumed they lost 50% fat and 50% muscle, then it works out to 2050 calories/lb instead of the often quoted 3500 calories/lb. So, throw in a decent amount of water weight off the start and a chunk of muscle and lean body mass, and you can start to see why they are able to lose so much weight so fast.
The second mistake is assuming it is safe in any way. If this link - http://nypost.com/2015/01/18/contestant-reveals-the-brutal-secrets-of-the-biggest-loser/ - is to be believe, it is unsafe across the board.
Doesn't really work that way. You're not just going to lose 50% muscle just because.
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What doesn't get addressed much is the mental state of the contestants. Yeah, they have some excerpts of the "tough" times, but no one is going to convince me that years and years of mental anguish, is going to be fixed in 6 months. Trading off one issue, can also lead to abuse of another. It's not uncommon of gastric bypass patients who can't eat anymore, to use gambling, drugs, alcohol, etc. to try to soothe their ongoing mentality of needing something for comfort.
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i have never watched it and i never will.
the methods and regimen they use for the weight loss are not sustainable long term and i believe VERY dangerous and from my understanding, they have some pretty nasty contract clauses for the contestants, too.0 -
I didn't watch that, but I did see 10 minutes of My Big Fat Fabulous Life on TLC yesterday and was pretty bothered by it...seems someone is signing off on this person being healthful at a morbidly obese size because she has PCOS (which plenty of people do without the obesity)...it's a bit of a circus.0
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I do love Extreme Weight Loss, but compared to Chris, Heidi can be um... a bit of a change of pace
Watching the season on Hulu right now. They can't produce this show fast enough for me lol. I hope it's not been canceled already haha
The show is now one hour, rather than two. And it's gotten gimmicky: first three "Love Can't Weight" wedding-centric shows. Then a hoarder with Matt Paxton and Dr. Tobin, and an aspiring fashion designer with Tim Gunn. The only nutrition info is courtesy of Rocco DiSpirito. The latest episode had an infomercial segment for CamelBak Relay, where Kim told Chris & Heidi: "It fills at the speed of my faucet."withaflourish wrote: »I did see 10 minutes of My Big Fat Fabulous Life on TLC yesterday and was pretty bothered by it...seems someone is signing off on this person being healthful at a morbidly obese size because she has PCOS (which plenty of people do without the obesity).
I thought I was the only one! I have Hashimoto's (autoimmune thyroid disease), and I lost the weight just like everybody else—by eating fewer calories than I burn.
I've only seen snippets of the show, so I have no idea if they've ever discussed calories in vs. calories out.0 -
Oh, she has no interest in losing weight - it's presumably about how she's healthy and loving life being morbidly obese.0
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withaflourish wrote: »Oh, she has no interest in losing weight - it's presumably about how she's healthy and loving life being morbidly obese.
oh thats the big fat happy life or some bs.
now, i can tell you when i was 260 pounds (at 5'1) i was HAPPY but im a happy person. I was NOT happy with the way i looked, how my clothes felt, and the physical ramifications my weight were starting to have on me (sore hips and ankles, back aches, out of breath easy, etc).
70 pounds lighter (and more to go) and I am STILL HAPPY, and more importantly I FEEL better and my heath has improved a hundredfold! and i look better
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callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »withaflourish wrote: »Oh, she has no interest in losing weight - it's presumably about how she's healthy and loving life being morbidly obese.
oh thats the big fat happy life or some bs.
now, i can tell you when i was 260 pounds (at 5'1) i was HAPPY but im a happy person. I was NOT happy with the way i looked, how my clothes felt, and the physical ramifications my weight were starting to have on me (sore hips and ankles, back aches, out of breath easy, etc).
70 pounds lighter (and more to go) and I am STILL HAPPY, and more importantly I FEEL better and my heath has improved a hundredfold! and i look better
I know, right? Some People like to throw around that "you can't be fat and happy" stuff. If being dissatisfied with one aspect of your life automatically means unhappiness, who in the world would be happy?? Guess what, I don't have millions of dollars lying around and that sure would pick me right up. Does this mean I can't be happy? "I wish I were thinner", or "I would like to work on losing weight" shouldn't automatically mean unhappy. That's one thing I like about the show, they try to give them tools for dealing with their issues, so they can begin to see their self worth even at their starting weight0 -
editorgrrl wrote: »I do love Extreme Weight Loss, but compared to Chris, Heidi can be um... a bit of a change of pace
Watching the season on Hulu right now. They can't produce this show fast enough for me lol. I hope it's not been canceled already haha
The show is now one hour, rather than two. And it's gotten gimmicky: first three "Love Can't Weight" wedding-centric shows. Then a hoarder with Matt Paxton and Dr. Tobin, and an aspiring fashion designer with Tim Gunn. The only nutrition info is courtesy of Rocco DiSpirito. The latest episode had an infomercial segment for CamelBak Relay, where Kim told Chris & Heidi: "It fills at the speed of my faucet."
Hulu appears to have consolidated some of the episodes into two hours, anyway, and I'm so glad the Love Can't Weight stuff only appears to have lasted three episodes. I wonder if that was always the intent, or if they stopped because they essentially broke up that one couple!
To the other poster I'm too lazy to quote: I think Biggest Loser brought back some former contestants, and a recent episode showed that a prior EWL client had joined Chris' team. Not sure where the rest of the EWL clients might be. I'd be curious, too!0 -
A recent episode showed that a prior EWL client had joined Chris' team. Not sure where the rest of the EWL clients might be. I'd be curious, too!
Heidi Powell posts some "where they are nows" on her blog, but they're buried in the "inspiration" tag: http://heidipowell.net/category/blog/inspiration/0 -
You can safely lose more than 2 pounds a week, but if you want to go on a severe diet, you should see a doctor first.
I don't watch those shows. I watched a few minutes of one and it was stupid.0 -
Whoa, just watched John and Panda. Like, wow. Those pictures that show people at the same body fat that look so different. Panda actually had less body fat than Chris, but you could clearly see Chris' muscle definition quite a bit more than Panda's
I like the fact that they showed John's story at the end of the episode. Not everybody's journey is smooth as butter - in fact, the rocky ones may be more typical0
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