Up hill battle

In the past I have been very successful with my weight loss I have lost over 60 pounds I have recently gained 15 pounds back and I have tried everything I know to lose the weight for the past two weeks I have been using Beachbody workouts religiously and eating personal trainer food prepackaged foods that were made for low carb lifestyle I have been following it meticulously I had lost 5 pounds and gained it all back I keep teeter tottering it's like a seesaw from the depths of hell my pants feel tighter on me as the days progressed I do not know why I am currently in ketosis constantly I work out until I am sweating to death but I still see barely any achievement I have lost an inch and a half off of my entire body but even that is not enough to make me feel comfortable in my own skin again I do not know what to do I don't know why I have stalled and why I have gained all the weight back I have done nothing differently I workout everyday intensively I eat just meat and vegetables I do not eat any starch I do not eat any bread I eat high protein and I do eat cheese I record everything I do on my Fitness Pal and I don't know what I am doing wrong I am starting to get set up and angry at myself I will grab the meat of my stomach and squeeze it in hatred I hate the skin I'm in and I don't know what to do I've done everything I can to try and lose the weight normally in the past when I have done when I'm doing currently I would drop the weight like crazy I don't know what has changed but it's breaking my heart does anyone have any tips
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  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    edited July 2015
    I'm 30 yrs old 5ft 5 161 lbs now.... doing focust25 and insanity workouts...
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    Two weeks isn't very long.

    All you need to lose weight is a caloric deficit. If you open your diary, I'm sure people will have suggestions.
  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    I made it public
  • strong_curves
    strong_curves Posts: 2,229 Member
    I'm thinking you might have to be a bit more patient. This thread by stroutman81 has some excellent information but it really boils down to consistency, accuracy and patience:

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/737101/relatively-light-people-trying-to-get-leaner/p1

  • kellygirl5538
    kellygirl5538 Posts: 597 Member
    I do not like the foods you are eating...they seem processed and not healthy. I understand you are eating low carb but you need to learn how to eat for life! Sorry I am a bit forward. It took me months to dip below 200 and even longer to get out of the 150's. You need to eat a plant based diet as much as you can. All the exercise in the world will not outdo a bad diet.
  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    Personal trainer food isn't processed from what they are telling me.
  • JoAnnRyan123
    JoAnnRyan123 Posts: 110 Member
    I cannot see your food diary (on iPh app)

    I would also recommend giving it more time, 2wks isnt long enough. Those workouts are intense and if you are coming off a phase of not working out, your muscles will holding on to water. IE water weight. This will go away in time.

    I am not a fan of pre packaged foods, trainer recommended or not- sorry. Like the above person stated; I would rather learn habits for healthy eating for life, and grocery shopping & meal planning skills. Fresh veggies & meats make a huge positive affect in my diet and I whole heartedly recommend it :)

    Hope this helps! Be patient- in 2 more weeks reassess. Love yourself, youre more than skin, stomach, etc. We all are!
  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    www.personaltrainerfood.com
  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    it's a meal plan where they send you all your food for the month
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    I do not like the foods you are eating...they seem processed and not healthy. I understand you are eating low carb but you need to learn how to eat for life! Sorry I am a bit forward. It took me months to dip below 200 and even longer to get out of the 150's. You need to eat a plant based diet as much as you can. All the exercise in the world will not outdo a bad diet.
    She's not asking you to eat those foods, so whether you like them or not is irrelevant.

    Barring some medical condition, she doesn't "need" to eat a plant-based diet. You're "wrong" more so than "forward."

  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    I find that I typically lose weight, feel fuller and feel better when I eat mostly meats. I eat a good amount of veggies daily, but I focus on consuming Fat and Protien over Carbs and Sugar. Also, today I fit into pants that I never thought would fit me again. I feel like throwing my scale away! It scares me. It will go from 161 to 157 to 160 to 163 to 158 and back again! I feel that's what really was getting me down. BUT the proof is in the pants! I hate water weight.... :(
  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,740 Member
    xxnecraxx wrote: »
    I find that I typically lose weight, feel fuller and feel better when I eat mostly meats. I eat a good amount of veggies daily, but I focus on consuming Fat and Protien over Carbs and Sugar. Also, today I fit into pants that I never thought would fit me again. I feel like throwing my scale away! It scares me. It will go from 161 to 157 to 160 to 163 to 158 and back again! I feel that's what really was getting me down. BUT the proof is in the pants! I hate water weight.... :(

    Do you know (or track) the sodium levels in the personal trainer foods? They may be convenient, but is this something you're going to do long term? Maybe it's time to start slowly supplementing these meals with ones of your own?
  • dahhhhhling
    dahhhhhling Posts: 66 Member
    Two weeks isn't very long at all. It will probably take more like 2 to 3 months to lose that 15 if you lose a pound per week, which is healthy. You didn't gain the weight overnight, don't expect to lose it overnight.

    And the average female can fluctuate in bodyweight by about 5 pounds per day, I know I do. Go by measurements and the fit of your clothes.
  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    edited July 2015
    Do you know (or track) the sodium levels in the personal trainer foods? They may be convenient, but is this something you're going to do long term? Maybe it's time to start slowly supplementing these meals with ones of your own?

    These are higher in sodium but I dont typically go over 2,300-2,500 mg of sodium a day, which is the MFP preset for healthy sodium consumption. I also drink a fair share of water throughout the day.
  • JennieMaeK
    JennieMaeK Posts: 474 Member
    xxnecraxx wrote: »
    Personal trainer food isn't processed from what they are telling me.

    If it is prepackaged meals, it's processed. Looking at the nutritional info from their website, I would be a bit concerned about the sodium levels. For example, the Italian Style Meatballs have over 1100 mg of sodium. That's almost half your daily recommended amount. You maybe retaining water due to the extra sodium, compared to making your own meatballs.

    As other's have said, two weeks isn't very long. Progress will be slow.
  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    edited July 2015
    I'm just not a good cook and I'm to busy/lazy to even pretend I can or ever will. So this is easier for me fo now. I don't foresee myself doing it forever but it's helped me get used to smaller portions and what I'm supposed to be eating. Again the sodium levels are high i get that but i still stick fairly close to the MFP preset daily levels. On the Person Trainer Food website it does speak about the sodium levels. They state "If you are looking for a low sodium plan, simply avoid the breaded items when customizing your meal program. By doing this, you will stay within the recommended dietary guidelines." You also just so happened to pick out a meal that had a high count. Not all of them do.

    BTW IT'S NOT PROCESSED!!!!!!!! Geez

    """"""Real Food. Pre-Cooked, Frozen, No Fillers like rice or noodles. No hidden sugars or Bad Carbs. No processed foods. Natural foods the way we ate 40 years ago. Real food which teaches you how to eat for a lifetime while delivering quick weight loss. Simple. meats, vegetables, natural dairy, select nuts. Created by Professional Trainers."""""""

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    http://www.personaltrainerfood.com/orders/NutritionLabels.pdf - Nutritional Info

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  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    xxnecraxx wrote: »
    I'm just not a good cook and I'm to busy/lazy to even pretend I can or ever will. So this is easier for me fo now. I don't foresee myself doing it forever but it's helped me get used to smaller portions and what I'm supposed to be eating. Again the sodium levels are high i get that but i still stick fairly close to the MFP preset daily levels. On the Person Trainer Food website it does speak about the sodium levels. They state "If you are looking for a low sodium plan, simply avoid the breaded items when customizing your meal program. By doing this, you will stay within the recommended dietary guidelines." You also just so happened to pick out a meal that had a high count. Not all of them do.

    BTW IT'S NOT PROCESSED!!!!!!!! Geez

    """"""Real Food. Pre-Cooked, Frozen, No Fillers like rice or noodles. No hidden sugars or Bad Carbs. No processed foods. Natural foods the way we ate 40 years ago. Real food which teaches you how to eat for a lifetime while delivering quick weight loss. Simple. meats, vegetables, natural dairy, select nuts. Created by Professional Trainers."""""""

    diax74eg68q5.jpg


    http://www.personaltrainerfood.com/orders/NutritionLabels.pdf - Nutritional Info

    "Processing" is such a meaningless term. How do you make breading without any sort of processing? They aren't grinding or drying anything? How on earth do you make a "chicken stick" without any sort of processing? How do you make sausage without any sort of processing?

    Stop thinking of "processing" as some sort of food devil.
  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    xxnecraxx wrote: »
    I'm just not a good cook and I'm to busy/lazy to even pretend I can or ever will. So this is easier for me fo now. I don't foresee myself doing it forever but it's helped me get used to smaller portions and what I'm supposed to be eating. Again the sodium levels are high i get that but i still stick fairly close to the MFP preset daily levels. On the Person Trainer Food website it does speak about the sodium levels. They state "If you are looking for a low sodium plan, simply avoid the breaded items when customizing your meal program. By doing this, you will stay within the recommended dietary guidelines." You also just so happened to pick out a meal that had a high count. Not all of them do.

    BTW IT'S NOT PROCESSED!!!!!!!! Geez

    """"""Real Food. Pre-Cooked, Frozen, No Fillers like rice or noodles. No hidden sugars or Bad Carbs. No processed foods. Natural foods the way we ate 40 years ago. Real food which teaches you how to eat for a lifetime while delivering quick weight loss. Simple. meats, vegetables, natural dairy, select nuts. Created by Professional Trainers."""""""

    diax74eg68q5.jpg


    http://www.personaltrainerfood.com/orders/NutritionLabels.pdf - Nutritional Info

    "Processing" is such a meaningless term. How do you make breading without any sort of processing? They aren't grinding or drying anything? How on earth do you make a "chicken stick" without any sort of processing? How do you make sausage without any sort of processing?

    Stop thinking of "processing" as some sort of food devil.

    I completely agree with you. I always feel like I need to defend myself and my food choices. It's not like I'm eatting buckets of double dipped chocolate covered donuts and 100 gals of sugary soda every day. I'm eatting within the means of my diet and restrictions.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    xxnecraxx wrote: »
    xxnecraxx wrote: »
    I'm just not a good cook and I'm to busy/lazy to even pretend I can or ever will. So this is easier for me fo now. I don't foresee myself doing it forever but it's helped me get used to smaller portions and what I'm supposed to be eating. Again the sodium levels are high i get that but i still stick fairly close to the MFP preset daily levels. On the Person Trainer Food website it does speak about the sodium levels. They state "If you are looking for a low sodium plan, simply avoid the breaded items when customizing your meal program. By doing this, you will stay within the recommended dietary guidelines." You also just so happened to pick out a meal that had a high count. Not all of them do.

    BTW IT'S NOT PROCESSED!!!!!!!! Geez

    """"""Real Food. Pre-Cooked, Frozen, No Fillers like rice or noodles. No hidden sugars or Bad Carbs. No processed foods. Natural foods the way we ate 40 years ago. Real food which teaches you how to eat for a lifetime while delivering quick weight loss. Simple. meats, vegetables, natural dairy, select nuts. Created by Professional Trainers."""""""

    diax74eg68q5.jpg


    http://www.personaltrainerfood.com/orders/NutritionLabels.pdf - Nutritional Info

    "Processing" is such a meaningless term. How do you make breading without any sort of processing? They aren't grinding or drying anything? How on earth do you make a "chicken stick" without any sort of processing? How do you make sausage without any sort of processing?

    Stop thinking of "processing" as some sort of food devil.

    I completely agree with you. I always feel like I need to defend myself and my food choices. It's not like I'm eatting buckets of double dipped chocolate covered donuts and 100 gals of sugary soda every day. I'm eatting within the means of my diet and restrictions.

    Well, I think you might be getting this feedback because your initial post sounds . . . pretty unhappy. You're talking about all the things you've given up, but you don't need to give up any of those things to reach your goals. And you don't have to pay someone to make meals for you (but if you want to, that's your business).

    Are you happy with your plan?
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    I do not like the foods you are eating...they seem processed and not healthy. I understand you are eating low carb but you need to learn how to eat for life! Sorry I am a bit forward. It took me months to dip below 200 and even longer to get out of the 150's. You need to eat a plant based diet as much as you can. All the exercise in the world will not outdo a bad diet.

    no, do not listen to this poster
  • dahhhhhling
    dahhhhhling Posts: 66 Member
    xxnecraxx wrote: »
    xxnecraxx wrote: »
    I'm just not a good cook and I'm to busy/lazy to even pretend I can or ever will. So this is easier for me fo now. I don't foresee myself doing it forever but it's helped me get used to smaller portions and what I'm supposed to be eating. Again the sodium levels are high i get that but i still stick fairly close to the MFP preset daily levels. On the Person Trainer Food website it does speak about the sodium levels. They state "If you are looking for a low sodium plan, simply avoid the breaded items when customizing your meal program. By doing this, you will stay within the recommended dietary guidelines." You also just so happened to pick out a meal that had a high count. Not all of them do.

    BTW IT'S NOT PROCESSED!!!!!!!! Geez

    """"""Real Food. Pre-Cooked, Frozen, No Fillers like rice or noodles. No hidden sugars or Bad Carbs. No processed foods. Natural foods the way we ate 40 years ago. Real food which teaches you how to eat for a lifetime while delivering quick weight loss. Simple. meats, vegetables, natural dairy, select nuts. Created by Professional Trainers."""""""

    diax74eg68q5.jpg


    http://www.personaltrainerfood.com/orders/NutritionLabels.pdf - Nutritional Info

    "Processing" is such a meaningless term. How do you make breading without any sort of processing? They aren't grinding or drying anything? How on earth do you make a "chicken stick" without any sort of processing? How do you make sausage without any sort of processing?

    Stop thinking of "processing" as some sort of food devil.

    I completely agree with you. I always feel like I need to defend myself and my food choices. It's not like I'm eatting buckets of double dipped chocolate covered donuts and 100 gals of sugary soda every day. I'm eatting within the means of my diet and restrictions.

    If it's working for you, stick with it. So many people start a plan they can't realistically follow and then give up.

    Give it about 4 - 6 weeks, and if you don't notice a difference, you can reevaluate your plan then.

  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    edited July 2015
    I think you maybe need to organize yourself a bit.
    Looking at your food log, I did not see one single fruit ( fresh, canned or dry ) in the last three weeks. Three weeks ago you had 4oz of mixed vegetables and some green beans several times a week, now it's just a few green beans every few days. No other vegetables, no salads, no complex carbs, just processed food ( and with that I do not mean the salting, drying, grinding etc of food, but the adding of chemicals to increase shelf life, keep them nice looking even after 6 month in the freezer, adding extra salt or sugar that has nothing to do with health or nutrition and that kind of thing ), cheese sticks and a small amount of salami. If this is a trainer originated food plan ( which I imagine is expensive ) I wonder what they train for, because the diet is far from being nutritionally balanced. You could do a lot better doing your own meals....many of us would be willing to help you with that.
    I would also organize my plan a bit better and stay within a certain calorie range every day, because eating 600 calories one day and 1400 the next plus exercising 600 calories worth of burn one day ( and not eating correctly for such a high burn) and then doing something completely different the next day really is not helpful in assessing what is going on, because there is no reliable information to go by. That in return makes tweaking your program based on reliable information next to impossible to do.
    I know, that all this is not directly connected to weight loss, because that is determined by CICO, but having a regimen that is varied, interesting, easy to manage and healthful reduces anxiety and frustration ( that is what I walked away from reading your initial post ) and that in return makes CICO a lot easier.
    Good Luck !
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    edited July 2015
    Ang108 wrote: »
    I think you maybe need to organize yourself a bit.
    Looking at your food log, I did not see one single fruit ( fresh, canned or dry ) in the last three weeks. Three weeks ago you had 4oz of mixed vegetables and some green beans several times a week, now it's just a few green beans every few days. No other vegetables, no salads, no complex carbs, just processed food, cheese sticks and a small amount of salami. If this is a trainer originated food plan ( which I imagine is expensive ) I wonder what they train for, because the diet is far from being nutritionally balanced. You could do a lot better doing your own meals....many of us would be willing to help you with that.
    I would also organize my plan a bit better and stay within a certain calorie range every day, because eating 600 calories one day and 1400 the next plus exercising 600 calories worth of burn one day ( and not eating correctly for such a high burn) and then doing something completely different the next day really is not helpful in assessing what is going on, because there is no reliable information to go by. That in return makes tweaking your program based on information next to impossible to do.
    I know, that all this is not directly connected to weight loss, because that is determined by CICO, but having a regimen that is varied, interesting, easy to manage and healthful reduces anxiety and frustration and that in return makes CICO a lot easier.
    Good Luck !

    The "Key West blend" and "Italian blend" entries in the diary are mixed vegetables, I believe. They come with her meal plan. I mean, it's not a lot of vegetables, but it does look like she is eating some just about every day.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    First, it takes longer than two weeks. Second, why aren't you just eating regular food? (Yes I read how you don't like to cook).
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    I always think I should become a personal chef when I see what people pay to not make food. Give me $50, reimburse me for the groceries, and I will make 14 meals for you in your kitchen that you just reheat when you're ready (or eat straight out of the fridge, like a sandwich) customized to whatever dietary restrictions you have. Including the recipes to put in your MFP app.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    Ang108 wrote: »
    I think you maybe need to organize yourself a bit.
    Looking at your food log, I did not see one single fruit ( fresh, canned or dry ) in the last three weeks. Three weeks ago you had 4oz of mixed vegetables and some green beans several times a week, now it's just a few green beans every few days. No other vegetables, no salads, no complex carbs, just processed food, cheese sticks and a small amount of salami. If this is a trainer originated food plan ( which I imagine is expensive ) I wonder what they train for, because the diet is far from being nutritionally balanced. You could do a lot better doing your own meals....many of us would be willing to help you with that.
    I would also organize my plan a bit better and stay within a certain calorie range every day, because eating 600 calories one day and 1400 the next plus exercising 600 calories worth of burn one day ( and not eating correctly for such a high burn) and then doing something completely different the next day really is not helpful in assessing what is going on, because there is no reliable information to go by. That in return makes tweaking your program based on information next to impossible to do.
    I know, that all this is not directly connected to weight loss, because that is determined by CICO, but having a regimen that is varied, interesting, easy to manage and healthful reduces anxiety and frustration and that in return makes CICO a lot easier.
    Good Luck !

    The "Key West blend" and "Italian blend" entries in the diary are mixed vegetables, I believe. They come with her meal plan. I mean, it's not a lot of vegetables, but it does look like she is eating some just about every day.

    I apologize. I did not think that " Key West " blend would be vegetables and now am curious what they might be. I am not American and do also not live there, but have visited Key West and all I can remember is fish and Piña Coladas....lol.


  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Ang108 wrote: »
    Ang108 wrote: »
    I think you maybe need to organize yourself a bit.
    Looking at your food log, I did not see one single fruit ( fresh, canned or dry ) in the last three weeks. Three weeks ago you had 4oz of mixed vegetables and some green beans several times a week, now it's just a few green beans every few days. No other vegetables, no salads, no complex carbs, just processed food, cheese sticks and a small amount of salami. If this is a trainer originated food plan ( which I imagine is expensive ) I wonder what they train for, because the diet is far from being nutritionally balanced. You could do a lot better doing your own meals....many of us would be willing to help you with that.
    I would also organize my plan a bit better and stay within a certain calorie range every day, because eating 600 calories one day and 1400 the next plus exercising 600 calories worth of burn one day ( and not eating correctly for such a high burn) and then doing something completely different the next day really is not helpful in assessing what is going on, because there is no reliable information to go by. That in return makes tweaking your program based on information next to impossible to do.
    I know, that all this is not directly connected to weight loss, because that is determined by CICO, but having a regimen that is varied, interesting, easy to manage and healthful reduces anxiety and frustration and that in return makes CICO a lot easier.
    Good Luck !

    The "Key West blend" and "Italian blend" entries in the diary are mixed vegetables, I believe. They come with her meal plan. I mean, it's not a lot of vegetables, but it does look like she is eating some just about every day.

    I apologize. I did not think that " Key West " blend would be vegetables and now am curious what they might be. I am not American and do also not live there, but have visited Key West and all I can remember is fish and Piña Coladas....lol.


    According to the website, it's green beans, carrots, and red peppers. It doesn't scream "Key West" to me, but it does sound more appealing than the "Omaha blend."

    They also have both a "Norway blend" and a "Scandanivian blend." It's almost like an auto-name generator is coming up with these things.

  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    WBB55 wrote: »
    I always think I should become a personal chef when I see what people pay to not make food. Give me $50, reimburse me for the groceries, and I will make 14 meals for you in your kitchen that you just reheat when you're ready (or eat straight out of the fridge, like a sandwich) customized to whatever dietary restrictions you have. Including the recipes to put in your MFP app.

    I absolutely agree with you ! I often have had the same thought, but am not sure that after I retire next year ( after 45 years of full time work ) I want to start something new. I do however like to help people develop a diet they can stick with.....of course having a MA in nutrition helps.
    I personally eat 1200 calories ( because I am going on 70 and am under five feet tall) and eat by volume much more than most women here. Of course cooking my own food and living in a tropical country where fresh produce is available all year long makes things easier.
    I have lost 65pounds without any big problems, have never been frustrated about my food and hope to lose another 35 pounds ( which is maybe difficult to do ) according to MD's orders, but don't know if I should weigh at age 70 ( that's what I will be in another 35 pounds ) the same I weighed the day I graduated from university....:o).
  • umayster
    umayster Posts: 651 Member
    xxnecraxx wrote: »
    I find that I typically lose weight, feel fuller and feel better when I eat mostly meats. I eat a good amount of veggies daily, but I focus on consuming Fat and Protien over Carbs and Sugar. Also, today I fit into pants that I never thought would fit me again. I feel like throwing my scale away! It scares me. It will go from 161 to 157 to 160 to 163 to 158 and back again! I feel that's what really was getting me down. BUT the proof is in the pants! I hate water weight.... :(

    Yes, throw the scale away. If the pants fit, you are making progress! With all the exercise you're doing you are probably replacing fat with muscle.
  • LadyDaenerys
    LadyDaenerys Posts: 89 Member
    edited July 2015
    I think you maybe need to organize yourself a bit.
    Looking at your food log, I did not see one single fruit ( fresh, canned or dry ) in the last three weeks. Three weeks ago you had 4oz of mixed vegetables and some green beans several times a week, now it's just a few green beans every few days. No other vegetables, no salads, no complex carbs, just processed food ( and with that I do not mean the salting, drying, grinding etc of food, but the adding of chemicals to increase shelf life, keep them nice looking even after 6 month in the freezer, adding extra salt or sugar that has nothing to do with health or nutrition and that kind of thing ), cheese sticks and a small amount of salami. If this is a trainer originated food plan ( which I imagine is expensive ) I wonder what they train for, because the diet is far from being nutritionally balanced. You could do a lot better doing your own meals....many of us would be willing to help you with that.
    I would also organize my plan a bit better and stay within a certain calorie range every day, because eating 600 calories one day and 1400 the next plus exercising 600 calories worth of burn one day ( and not eating correctly for such a high burn) and then doing something completely different the next day really is not helpful in assessing what is going on, because there is no reliable information to go by. That in return makes tweaking your program based on reliable information next to impossible to do.
    I know, that all this is not directly connected to weight loss, because that is determined by CICO, but having a regimen that is varied, interesting, easy to manage and healthful reduces anxiety and frustration ( that is what I walked away from reading your initial post ) and that in return makes CICO a lot easier.
    Good Luck !

    I'm currently in the induction phase of Atkins and I don't eat fruits as the are full of sugar. They spike the glycemic index. When I eat them I fall out of ketosis and I get shakey and sometime even black out. (I have hypoglycemia and this low sugar diet helps me regulate myelf) I do however eat a cup or so of veggies with my meals. I don't eat much as I'm trying to stay below a certain amout of carbs per day. To me this is REAL FOOD, I mean, it's not made of plastic lol