Freelee banana
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so basically if you haven't heard of her she is a YouTuber who is a vegan. She eats high amount of calories (of course their veggies ,fruit nd so on ) and Claims you will be thin. I used to think that was nonsense. But now I'm having second thoughts . She made this point about how animal milk is not essentially for human consumption. And she went on and gave an example with calves and how they're giving milk to fatten up. And how animal products make us store fat. Another point she made is the reason why we have to restrict calories is because it's not made for us and we need to eat little of it . I'm really confused now. But if she's right I don't know how I will consume as much as she does . What are you guys thoughts about this all? Itried to sum things up.
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Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.0
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
Lol why is that .0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
I mean she is so skinny0 -
I don't disagree about dairy. It's not essential in the diet. But consuming nothing but fruit isn't the best approach either. We don't manufacture proteins or fats, so unless we take them in, the body suffers. And with all that fiber, there's going to be a lot of bathroom visits.
Extremes aren't the answer to a balanced diet and life.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
I mean she is so skinny
so skinny is more important than anything else?!
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I don't disagree about dairy. It's not essential in the diet. But consuming nothing but fruit isn't the best approach either. We don't manufacture proteins or fats, so unless we take them in, the body suffers. And with all that fiber, there's going to be a lot of bathroom visits.
Extremes aren't the answer to a balanced diet and life.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
+1 She also claims that a raw vegan diet will heal you but chemotherapy will kill you. She thought it was a good thing when she lost her period for months at a time (‘I still believe that largely menstruation is toxicity leaving the body. So a lot of women are having these heavy painful periods because they have a toxic body.’) I have no words to actually explain how stupid that is.
So...yes, she's a moron.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
I mean she is so skinny
so skinny is more important than anything else?!
No , I'm just saying that her method of trying to lose weight must work .0 -
And so I conclude that you all feel strongly lol.0
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TavistockToad wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
I mean she is so skinny
so skinny is more important than anything else?!
No , I'm just saying that her method of trying to lose weight must work .
yeah being anorexic works for weight loss too... doesn't mean its a good idea....0 -
I used to watch her videos too, she is a bit infectious with her enthusiasm. But there are a lot of people who have followed her "eat all of these calories and you won't gain weight" thing, and have gained weight. If you search things like "how I got fat on fruit" you can see that overeating anything isn't really a good idea. I found UnnaturalVegan on youtube to have a lot of science behind her approach, and she still argues for a moderate calorie consumption, rather than the 3000+ Freelee advocates.0
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oh_happy_day wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
+1 She also claims that a raw vegan diet will heal you but chemotherapy will kill you. She thought it was a good thing when she lost her period for months at a time (‘I still believe that largely menstruation is toxicity leaving the body. So a lot of women are having these heavy painful periods because they have a toxic body.’) I have no words to actually explain how stupid that is.
So...yes, she's a moron.
I'd not heard she said that before. I already thought she was an idiot. Wow.0 -
She's skinny because she doesn't overeat. What makes bananas 'made for human consumption" anymore than milk is? Banana trees do not produce bananas for humans.0
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She comes across like a bit of a...fruitcake. Some people may say she's..bananas. (See what I did there? Anyone? No? I'll get me coat...)
Fad, restrictive diet pushed by a lady with a history of eating disorders with little scientific backing who makes questionable statements online.
She looks nice though I guess.0 -
She doesn't eat nearly as many calories as she claims to. Animal products do not make you fat. Excess calories, no matter where they come from, will make you fat. If you eat only meat and dairy, in a calorie deficit, you'd lose weight - you probably wouldn't be very healthy though as you'd be missing out on fibre and vitamins/minerals from fruit and veg. Just eat a balanced diet in a calorie deficit and you'll lose weight and be healthy. No need to over complicate things!0
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I have come to the conclusion that some people prefer to get bad advice and follow that. Then there are people who want to give advice, even though they have no business doing that.
They find each other and they're happy.
I wouldn't advise taking your health advice from Freelee, but people who do wouldn't like my boring, sensible advice, anyway. They want to take bad advice!0 -
We live in a society that doesn't value science or the people who study it. Being an educated person has somehow become synonymous with being elitist. Derision of established science has resulted in the popularity of uninformed pseudo experts who happen to have a charismatic personality.0
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MarziPanda95 wrote: »She doesn't eat nearly as many calories as she claims to. Animal products do not make you fat. Excess calories, no matter where they come from, will make you fat. If you eat only meat and dairy, in a calorie deficit, you'd lose weight - you probably wouldn't be very healthy though as you'd be missing out on fibre and vitamins/minerals from fruit and veg. Just eat a balanced diet in a calorie deficit and you'll lose weight and be healthy. No need to over complicate things!
Oh, she does eat as much as she says she does.
She also rides her bike for multiple hours daily which she downplays and rather pretends you can't get fat if you just eat fruit.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »She doesn't eat nearly as many calories as she claims to. Animal products do not make you fat. Excess calories, no matter where they come from, will make you fat. If you eat only meat and dairy, in a calorie deficit, you'd lose weight - you probably wouldn't be very healthy though as you'd be missing out on fibre and vitamins/minerals from fruit and veg. Just eat a balanced diet in a calorie deficit and you'll lose weight and be healthy. No need to over complicate things!
Oh, she does eat as much as she says she does.
She also rides her bike for multiple hours daily which she downplays and rather pretends you can't get fat if you just eat fruit.
Okay then, she doesn't eat as many net calories as she says she does
But I have heard it said by other people that they've met her and been disappointed that she doesn't practise what she preaches, and barely ate anything (this was at a convention so I suppose she wasn't able to ride her bike, so didn't eat much?).0 -
I've been waiting for a thread like this to pop up! YES!
Okay, so here's the deal with Freelee and Durian Rider and why i think the advice they give out is both STUPID and misleading.
Here we go, you constantly hear them say "You can't get fat off fruit!" "CARB THE EFF UP!". And they also talk about dietary fat (that you eat from foods) somehow magically turning into your own body's fat. They also tout in the Raw Til 4 movement to eat "MINIMUM 2500 calories for women and 3000 calories for men".
Firstly, You can ABSOLUTELY get fat off of fruit. Or vegetables. Or meat. Or alcohol. Or any food item because there is the FACT that total calorie consumption (energy in) must be LESS than calories burned (energy out) if you want to lose weight. This is a FACT.
Secondly, since this is the case selecting a BLANKET calorie goal for women and men (regardless of their height, age, activity level, etc.) is just plain stupid. I MAINTAIN my weight around 1800 calories. Someone who is taller will take more and shorter will take less.
So then, how is it that she can slam down 1000 calorie "date-o-rade" and eat such a sh#@ ton of calories AND NOT GET FAT? I'll tell you. Both her and Durianride bike 50k PLUS each and every single day. Matter of fact, this is what they consider a "light day". Biking 31 miles per day, doing intervals with HILLS, COME ON! It's no secret or shock to find out that they need to eat a lot of calories when they are burning thousands of calories biking every single day.
There is actually a great deal of people who try her eating style and GAIN WEIGHT. And fast too. Why? Because they are eating WAY MORE calories than they need for their body AND they aren't as active as she is.
As far as the whole "the fat you eat is the fat you wear" nonsense. It's just that. Nonsense. It's not true. Dietary fat is not only NECESSARY for humans to consume (essential fats anyone?) But it does not magically become body fat (stored energy) unless you are eating too many calories.
Then there's the "stuff it in" nonsense she pushes which encourages people to literally BINGE and eat until PAST their fullness level.
Then there's the whole bull$H^t they've come up with about "metabolic damage this metabolic damage that" and "You gained weight when you became a vegan because your body is damaged from dieting "restricting" in the past, and it will take time to heal now so you'll gain weight first" and "it takes years to heal metabolic damage so you'll have to pay your dues". I'm sorry. This is also completely fabricated and not based on science. They are using this as a way to discredit those who have GAINED weight on their lifestyle AND to put the blame on the individual.
Don't even get me started on the "Do people who are not vegan even deserve to LIVE? Veganism should be mandatory" and "All men should have mandatory vasectomies"....
Also also also, it's my opinion that she both lies about how much she actually eats and pretends she doesn't exercise as much as she does so she can trick people into worshipping her/getting dissapointed when they cant look as good as her.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
I mean she is so skinny
so skinny is more important than anything else?!
No , I'm just saying that her method of trying to lose weight must work .
Freelee lost most of her weight while doing tons of exercise. There is zero evidence that her diet plan will result in weight loss for people who don't burn more calories than they consume. That's how weight loss is generated -- whether you eat mostly fruit or a balanced diet.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »... "All men should have mandatory vasectomies"....
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wait. that's a thing? Why do all men need vasectomies? can't they hand those out to women? where's the line- sign me up!!!
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rainbowbow wrote: »... "All men should have mandatory vasectomies"....
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wait. that's a thing? Why do all men need vasectomies? can't they hand those out to women? where's the line- sign me up!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsxnezDOPHw
Also, you will need a license to breed.
She actually encourages both but she says it's "less invasive" for men than women.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
I mean she is so skinny
so skinny is more important than anything else?!
No , I'm just saying that her method of trying to lose weight must work .
Freelee lost most of her weight while doing tons of exercise. There is zero evidence that her diet plan will result in weight loss for people who don't burn more calories than they consume. That's how weight loss is generated -- whether you eat mostly fruit or a balanced diet.
You mean the 40lbs she lost BIKING ACROSS AUSTRALIA? She biked 3,000km across australia to lose the weight.
Also, durianrider actually says in a blog post i just read he bikes 200-300km a day. So multiply what i said above by like 6.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »... "All men should have mandatory vasectomies"....
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wait. that's a thing? Why do all men need vasectomies? can't they hand those out to women? where's the line- sign me up!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsxnezDOPHw
Also, you will need a license to breed.
She actually encourages both but she says it's "less invasive" for men than women.
I actually fully support licenses to reproduce. Way to many people be popping out kids when they shouldn't' be.0 -
I got through 1:04 before I had to turn her off.rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »... "All men should have mandatory vasectomies"....
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wait. that's a thing? Why do all men need vasectomies? can't they hand those out to women? where's the line- sign me up!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsxnezDOPHw
Also, you will need a license to breed.
She actually encourages both but she says it's "less invasive" for men than women.
She doesn't believe in being positive because that's stupid - rainbows and unicorns. She believes in education (but educating yourself, not that silly book lerarnin'), fire and thinking.
That's all I need to hear.
She's an idiot. Anyone who takes their advice from her is an idiot. But they may be happy idiots and it's their choice.
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My best friend blindly follows Freelee since a year ago. She might be passionate about Freelee more than Freelee is passionate about Freelee *sigh*
I know that there's no point to argue because somehow this chick created a freakin' religion0 -
And she went on and gave an example with calves and how they're giving milk to fatten up. And how animal products make us store fat.
Tell you what - consume nothing but two cups of milk a day for six weeks, then come back and tell us how much fat you put on.And so I conclude that you all feel strongly lol.
As opposed to you, who started the thread and is defending her...?
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TavistockToad wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Freelee is an idiot. A straight out, genuine idiot.
I mean she is so skinny
so skinny is more important than anything else?!
No , I'm just saying that her method of trying to lose weight must work .
Eating fewer calories than you burn (no matter how you do it) causes weight loss. Freelee does that (as I understand it she's very active, and I'm skeptical she eats as many calories as she claims just from fruit).
Eating just raw fruits and vegetables isn't all that healthy--you need protein and fat. It's also not going to be sustainable for most. I love fruits and vegetables, but I'd be bored and feel not so great if that's all I ate.
And I've lost 95 lbs, so my way works too.0
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