Ever get bad advice from a professional?
Protranser
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I'll share:
One year ago, my doctor was flabbergasted at how fat I got, and the weight reading on his scale. I was 100 lbs heavier than normal weight for my height and gender. He told me, almost verbatim, "Stop eating! Just stop. Go talk to Carol at reception, she used to be a nutritionist."
Carol is now a medical billing assistant? At least, I think that's what she does. She never seems to set up appointments and is always on the phone with various insurance companies whenever I'm in the waiting area. Her advice? "Don't add any oils to your foods when you eat. Don't use any dressings for salad unless they're fat free. Don't have any sweets."
One year ago, my doctor was flabbergasted at how fat I got, and the weight reading on his scale. I was 100 lbs heavier than normal weight for my height and gender. He told me, almost verbatim, "Stop eating! Just stop. Go talk to Carol at reception, she used to be a nutritionist."
Carol is now a medical billing assistant? At least, I think that's what she does. She never seems to set up appointments and is always on the phone with various insurance companies whenever I'm in the waiting area. Her advice? "Don't add any oils to your foods when you eat. Don't use any dressings for salad unless they're fat free. Don't have any sweets."
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Nope. No bad advice.
Had an unnecessary keyhole procedure because of a bad reading from a machine. That's about it I think.
But I can't recall any bad or wrong advice about diet or nutrition from a doctor etc
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keyhole procedure? My head is trying to visualize what that means. It sounds frightening!0
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Sounds like you dr has a good bedside manner, and "used to be a nutritionist" lol0
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stephanieluvspb wrote: »Sounds like you dr has a good bedside manner, and "used to be a nutritionist" lol
The doctor is an interesting character. He's generally good to talk to about health concerns, but he himself could stand to lose a few pounds. He just hasn't found a method that worked for him, is my guess.
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Protranser wrote: »keyhole procedure? My head is trying to visualize what that means. It sounds frightening!
Keyhole as in a small tiny hole they stick things in instead of cutting a giant hole in you.
Say they need to check something in your heart, instead if cutting your chest, cracking ribs etc they can go in your leg/groin and up to the heart that way.
No expert
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Protranser wrote: »keyhole procedure? My head is trying to visualize what that means. It sounds frightening!
Keyhole as in a small tiny hole they stick things in instead of cutting a giant hole in you.
Say they need to check something in your heart, instead if cutting your chest, cracking ribs etc they can go in your leg/groin and up to the heart that way.
No expert
Yikes, you had that done to you and you didn't need it? I'm glad you came out okay after all that, even though I don't really know you
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Protranser wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »Sounds like you dr has a good bedside manner, and "used to be a nutritionist" lol
The doctor is an interesting character. He's generally good to talk to about health concerns, but he himself could stand to lose a few pounds. He just hasn't found a method that worked for him, is my guess.
maybe he should go to the "nutritionist" 0 -
stephanieluvspb wrote: »Protranser wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »Sounds like you dr has a good bedside manner, and "used to be a nutritionist" lol
The doctor is an interesting character. He's generally good to talk to about health concerns, but he himself could stand to lose a few pounds. He just hasn't found a method that worked for him, is my guess.
maybe he should go to the "nutritionist"
lol, that would be unfortunate. I'm glad I knew someone who has managed to lose a lot of weight and keep it off for most of her life. She pointed me to weight watchers, which worked great, until I learned of calorie databases and the apps that help track calories 0 -
Protranser wrote: »Protranser wrote: »keyhole procedure? My head is trying to visualize what that means. It sounds frightening!
Keyhole as in a small tiny hole they stick things in instead of cutting a giant hole in you.
Say they need to check something in your heart, instead if cutting your chest, cracking ribs etc they can go in your leg/groin and up to the heart that way.
No expert
Yikes, you had that done to you and you didn't need it? I'm glad you came out okay after all that, even though I don't really know you
Thanks.
But the point of key hole surgery is that it's less invasive, like no recovery time. Day surgery or overnight stuff.
It was a while ago so details are fuzzy, I think I was there over night but maybe not even that. I remember sleeping but that could have been during the day.
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Wow Merkavar, a face update! You look 20 years younger!
I would have to write an essay to capture all of the bad medical advice that I have received over the years. Most of it came from PCPs. I have a huge distrust of generalists as a result.
Second opinions--always a good thing!0 -
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Shows you how much doctors know about nutrition if they think it's ok to consult with someone who was a nutritionist years ago... considering that recommendations change all the time anyway.
My doctor told me to eat fat free everything because my LDL was high, but HDL was high as well so overall my ratio was still fine. That's when I was only eating 60g of fat a day or something. I'm no expert but I don't think that was very sound advice.0 -
The real shame is that doctors are seen as an authoritative figure because they deal with our health problems etc... one thing you should note is that in the 5 year course or however long it is, they get about 6 hours of nutritional education.
That's nothing.
Unless they have a degree in nutrition or relevant to it, I would trust them. If not, then I know not to go with anything they say.0 -
Actually I think that not adding salad dressing, oil or butter to prepared foods is pretty solid advice as a first step to reducing calories. It is one of many possible responses...certainly one of the better ones. (I would have put reducing sugar higher on the list).
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Yes, I did. I had a doctor assume I was fat because I was lazy. He missed something because he didn't bother to look for it.
I paid the price.
I'm big on seeing a specialist when there is something wrong.
Skipping butter and oil when you're 100 pounds too fat...it's not bad advice. Those are very easy ways to cut back on calories. If you have questions, ask for a referral to a dietitian. It's the best 30-60 minutes you'll spend on your diet and is better than anything you'll read here because it's just for you.
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If you think about it, regular PCPs are just doctors of medicine. Write a script. High blood pressure? Take this pill. Strep throat? Take this antibiotic. It's really a shame. Personally, I believe that many diseases can be prevented and even cured with food (e.g. plants, herbs, etc.).0
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Yep.
I was diagnosed for 30 years with something I didn't have. Only recently since I moved areas and to a better NHS trust did the specialists realise it was something else.
Wrong meds for 30 years (and their side effects) - yeah I'm angry about it.
I learnt my lesson - always ask for a second opinion. Doctors aren't Gods.0 -
I went to a "fat" doctor and he put me on phen-phen and told me to eat 1000 calories a day. Thank goodness the med made me feel like *kitten* and I stopped it after a couple of months-before it could damage my heart!
I lost the weight simply cico and started exercising. Most of the loss occurred before MFP. I wish I had it back then-it would have been easier.0 -
I went to the doctor because I was getting intense pain in my stomach, back and chest. I was told everything from IBM, I am sleeping on the wrong side and my favorite anxiety. Turns out I had gallstones that were about 2cm big and my gallbladder needed to be removed.0
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I would've ended up eating too much of something else to make up for the loss of fat, oil, butter. I would like to believe I'd have been more likely to follow a plan that suggested a calorie budget system had i learned of it that day, rather than leaving thinking about restricting food groups that i obviously enjoyed being 100 lbs overweight lol. Hindsight is 100% though...0
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I had a Nephrologist (kidney specialist) tell me my kidney is just normally swollen and the pain in my flank was because of extra weight and I should lose a few pounds. Had nothing to do with the 2.2cm stone stuck in my ureter that sent me to emergency surgery a week later!0
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My family doctor bought me the book "Eat to Live". Even though his heart was in the right place there's no way I could eat like that long term, let alone short term. I'm huge on protein, veggies not so much. Counting calories has been my best choice so far.0
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Had a personal trainer advise me to eat 6 small meals a day and use the machines instead of free weights. Fortunately I was not paying him and that one free session was enough to put me off joining that gym.0
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I was told by my pediatrician (I was about 5'6, maybe 16-17 years old, and 190-210 pounds) that "eating Big Macs at every meal is unhealthy". I haven't had a Big Mac (or any other beef burger) in my life. Once I reach maintenance and maintain for a little while, I really should send him a picture of me with my first Big Mac. 0
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The worst advice I get from people & professionals: eat more protein, less carbohydrates, because carbohydrates turns in to sugar in your body, there for it considered bad for you. This screwed me up for ages. How can people go on diet without eating carbohydrates, if this is what give us energy? One time I got to the point that I would eat porridge only in the morning, then meat, protein shakes and vegetables through the day. Which outcome in colossal loss of energy for me, doesn't matter how much I ate of non-carbohydrate food!. I'd end up craving and eating tonnes of fruits by the end of the day, thinking - fruits are good, right? I'm not eating anything sweet through the day, so I should be fine. With that, though, I never lost weights, because I ate too many fruits to substitute craving for carbohydrates, and fruits still have sugars in them. On the top of that I always got bloated stomach, which annoyed me. I worked out at the gym like crazy, I'd get to the point of almost fainting, but I just did not loose weight! Anyways, I had to change my food plan. I'm eating enough different grains now through the day to keep me going, around 60-70% of my diet are grains. My stomach got really flat. I'm loosing weight. And the best thing I don't crave fruits as much, as I used to. In fact I don't crave any sugar that all. .. So whoever came up with this more protein thing, less carbohydrates. It is dumbest idea ever.0
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »The real shame is that doctors are seen as an authoritative figure because they deal with our health problems etc... one thing you should note is that in the 5 year course or however long it is, they get about 6 hours of nutritional education.
That's nothing.
Unless they have a degree in nutrition or relevant to it, I would trust them. If not, then I know not to go with anything they say.
I feel like that is my issue with doctors. They/(or People in general) act as though they are experts in all things health and illness related, when really they either studied a narrow field in depth (in which case I take advice in that field) or they studied everything for short periods and I take what is said with some research or a grain of salt. The show The Doctors rubs me totally the wrong way for this reason.0 -
I've been waiting to see that. Looking good!0 -
nutritionist put me on a diet that included saltines and animal crackers
it was so restrictive
now I eat about the same number of calories, but I get to enjoy food
yesterday I had a delicious cracked peppercorn tilapia with Italian herb rice. and an ice cream sandwich. and was still under my calorie allotment0 -
If a dentist tells you you need a crown on a tooth that has never given you a bit of trouble, get a second opinion >.<
I once asked a doctor about the potential side effects of the carpal tunnel surgery he was recommending and he told me to look it up in the medical library >.< I had acupuncture rather than the procedure, and stopped doing the repetitive motion. My coworkers who did have the procedure were not happy with the results.0 -
My obstetrician was constantly on my case for gaining too much weight while I was pregnant. I gained 45 pounds total. Funny that I would bet my right arm that her BMI was in the obese category. Lol.0
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