That sugar film
jonnybhoy
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looks interesting0
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... But with some actual science behind it.0
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... But with some actual science behind it.
How do you get that from:
THAT SUGAR FILM is one man’s journey to discover the bitter truth about sugar. Damon Gameau embarks on a unique experiment to document the effects of a high sugar diet on a healthy body, consuming only foods that are commonly perceived as ‘healthy’. Through this entertaining and informative journey, Damon highlights some of the issues that plague the sugar industry, and where sugar lurks on supermarket shelves. THAT SUGAR FILM will forever change the way you think about ‘healthy’ food.
Just another mock-u-mentary/scare-tactic/way to attract gullible people.0 -
i like that he challenged himself to eat sugar that is packaged into foods, and to stay within his normal allotment of calories. That makes his results more interesting than the 5,000 calorie a day morgan spurlock style gorge fest.0
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tincanonastring wrote: »
dang science. always such a buzzkill.0 -
Sugar...buzz...
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The title card looks vaguely like a 70s style porn film.
Not that I've ever seen one.
*ahem*
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crazyjerseygirl wrote: »The title card looks vaguely like a 70s style porn film.
Not that I've ever seen one.
*ahem*
You're thinking of a similar documentary about proteins...0 -
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melimomTARDIS wrote: »i like that he challenged himself to eat sugar that is packaged into foods, and to stay within his normal allotment of calories. That makes his results more interesting than the 5,000 calorie a day morgan spurlock style gorge fest.
I question whether he actually did this, given his results. I'd have to see how he figured out his maintenance calories and how he tracked them.
Also, the amount of sugar he consumed is absurd. Edit: as tincan's link pointed out, but hey, I'll be repetitive! ;-)0 -
chicka-chicka-bow-wow0
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Who determines what is commonly perceived as healthy. Most of the foods in the pics on that site would not be something I perceive as "healthy".0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Who determines what is commonly perceived as healthy. Most of the foods in the pics on that site would not be something I perceive as "healthy".
Not who; what. What determines...healthy?
Answer: The rest of your diet.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Who determines what is commonly perceived as healthy. Most of the foods in the pics on that site would not be something I perceive as "healthy".
Not who; what. What determines...healthy?
Answer: The rest of your diet.
No, not what, who. Or maybe how. The description says "commonly perceived as healthy". By whom or how was "commonly perceived as healthy" determined.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Who determines what is commonly perceived as healthy. Most of the foods in the pics on that site would not be something I perceive as "healthy".
I think it has to do with health claims being made on the packaging?
But yes, I agree with the point. I don't particularly think of them that way either.0 -
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No one has cereal, yogurt and juice for breakfast. Chicken something covered in a sugar sauce for lunch. A fruit bar for an afternoon snack. And a frozen yogurt or smoothie for a treat after dinner.
Totally unrealistic -- no one eats that much sugar unless they just don't care about their diet at all.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Who determines what is commonly perceived as healthy. Most of the foods in the pics on that site would not be something I perceive as "healthy".
Not who; what. What determines...healthy?
Answer: The rest of your diet.
No, not what, who. Or maybe how. The description says "commonly perceived as healthy". By whom or how was "commonly perceived as healthy" determined.
Yeah, but has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?”0 -
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AlabasterVerve wrote: »No one has cereal, yogurt and juice for breakfast. Chicken something covered in a sugar sauce for lunch. A fruit bar for an afternoon snack. And a frozen yogurt or smoothie for a treat after dinner.
Totally unrealistic -- no one eats that much sugar unless they just don't care about their diet at all.
If it fit in my calories and macros, sure I would! That much sugar sounds f***ing awesome and I have no medical condition that prevents me from eating that much!0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Who determines what is commonly perceived as healthy. Most of the foods in the pics on that site would not be something I perceive as "healthy".
Not who; what. What determines...healthy?
Answer: The rest of your diet.
No, not what, who. Or maybe how. The description says "commonly perceived as healthy". By whom or how was "commonly perceived as healthy" determined.
Yeah, but has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?”
That really hurt my brain trying to make sense of that sentence. Am I drunk?
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tincanonastring wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »No one has cereal, yogurt and juice for breakfast. Chicken something covered in a sugar sauce for lunch. A fruit bar for an afternoon snack. And a frozen yogurt or smoothie for a treat after dinner.
Totally unrealistic -- no one eats that much sugar unless they just don't care about their diet at all.
If it fit in my calories and macros, sure I would! That much sugar sounds f***ing awesome and I have no medical condition that prevents me from eating that much!
So that's not an absurd amount of sugar to eat then? Huh. Go figure.
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AlabasterVerve wrote: »No one has cereal, yogurt and juice for breakfast. Chicken something covered in a sugar sauce for lunch. A fruit bar for an afternoon snack. And a frozen yogurt or smoothie for a treat after dinner.
Totally unrealistic -- no one eats that much sugar unless they just don't care about their diet at all.
The numbers are well more than what even US teens eating the SAD eat, so that IS an absurd amount of sugar, yes. Whether eating the diet you set forth gets you there depends on the specifics, but the numbers he chose to reach aren't any different than what Spurlock did.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »No one has cereal, yogurt and juice for breakfast. Chicken something covered in a sugar sauce for lunch. A fruit bar for an afternoon snack. And a frozen yogurt or smoothie for a treat after dinner.
Totally unrealistic -- no one eats that much sugar unless they just don't care about their diet at all.
The numbers are well more than what even US teens eating the SAD eat, so that IS an absurd amount of sugar, yes. Whether eating the diet you set forth gets you there depends on the specifics, but the numbers he chose to reach aren't any different than what Spurlock did.
If the average American adult eats 22 teaspoons of sugar and the average teen eats 34 teaspoons a day how much sugar do you think the people who fall outside of the norm are eating? Quite a bit I'd imagine when you consider the rate young people seem to be acquiring what used to be adult-onset diseases.
But I'm biased and think it's more likely than not that excessive sugar is actually harmful and that the rising rates of NAFLD, diabetes et al. are due in part to the absurd (but normalized) amounts of sugar people are eating.
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AlabasterVerve wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »No one has cereal, yogurt and juice for breakfast. Chicken something covered in a sugar sauce for lunch. A fruit bar for an afternoon snack. And a frozen yogurt or smoothie for a treat after dinner.
Totally unrealistic -- no one eats that much sugar unless they just don't care about their diet at all.
If it fit in my calories and macros, sure I would! That much sugar sounds f***ing awesome and I have no medical condition that prevents me from eating that much!
So that's not an absurd amount of sugar to eat then? Huh. Go figure.
Of course it's absurd, but that in no way invalidates my statement.0 -
AlabasterVerve wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »No one has cereal, yogurt and juice for breakfast. Chicken something covered in a sugar sauce for lunch. A fruit bar for an afternoon snack. And a frozen yogurt or smoothie for a treat after dinner.
Totally unrealistic -- no one eats that much sugar unless they just don't care about their diet at all.
The numbers are well more than what even US teens eating the SAD eat, so that IS an absurd amount of sugar, yes. Whether eating the diet you set forth gets you there depends on the specifics, but the numbers he chose to reach aren't any different than what Spurlock did.
If the average American adult eats 22 teaspoons of sugar and the average teen eats 34 teaspoons a day how much sugar do you think the people who fall outside of the norm are eating? Quite a bit I'd imagine when you consider the rate young people seem to be acquiring what used to be adult-onset diseases.
But I'm biased and think it's more likely than not that excessive sugar is actually harmful and that the rising rates of NAFLD, diabetes et al. are due in part to the absurd (but normalized) amounts of sugar people are eating.
I tend to agree. More sugar and less movement is not good.0 -
AlabasterVerve wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »No one has cereal, yogurt and juice for breakfast. Chicken something covered in a sugar sauce for lunch. A fruit bar for an afternoon snack. And a frozen yogurt or smoothie for a treat after dinner.
Totally unrealistic -- no one eats that much sugar unless they just don't care about their diet at all.
The numbers are well more than what even US teens eating the SAD eat, so that IS an absurd amount of sugar, yes. Whether eating the diet you set forth gets you there depends on the specifics, but the numbers he chose to reach aren't any different than what Spurlock did.
If the average American adult eats 22 teaspoons of sugar and the average teen eats 34 teaspoons a day how much sugar do you think the people who fall outside of the norm are eating?
I think those numbers include intrinsic sugar, not just added, and one criticism I saw of the movie is that he ate only added sugar (well, and whatever lactose is included in the yogurt) and a low fiber, unhealthy diet generally. Also, that much of what he ate was not considered "healthy" even under the standards he claimed to be applying.
Also, as I expected, that his measure of calories is suspect and he ate well more than the recommended serving sizes of the foods he consumed in many cases. (So rather like Super-Size-Me, as I said above.)
But to your point about how much sugar the average teen eats, if those numbers are accurate, yes, I think that's absurd too. And of course what the outliers eat is absurd.Quite a bit I'd imagine when you consider the rate young people seem to be acquiring what used to be adult-onset diseases.
Yep, I've never ever said diet doesn't matter, although I happen to think the issue is more calories than sugar (although I do think sweetened drinks are a particular issue).But I'm biased and think it's more likely than not that excessive sugar is actually harmful and that the rising rates of NAFLD, diabetes et al. are due in part to the absurd (but normalized) amounts of sugar people are eating.
I tend to think (again) that people who eat really unhealthy diets are aware of that fact, but don't care.
The concept behind the recent sugar "documentaries," including this one, seems to be that they don't know (although given that the maker of this one claims to have known I think it's rather odd of him to assume that others are somehow ignorant of that information). I don't believe that that claim--that people don't know--is true. To consume 40 teaspoons of added sugar, you have to eat a really absurd diet. To try to extrapolate from that to eating sugar is unhealthy and sugar is the root of all evil or the like is silly.0
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