Argument for not eating/entering exercise cals?

AllOutof_Bubblegum

I lift weights, and it's too hard to calculate an accurate enough burn to eat the cals back. It would be a low enough number that it wouldn't really matter one way or the other, though.

BWBTrish

I have suddenly a whole other reason to maybe stop logging them

I worked with my MFP calorie allowance for about 9 months
My HRM i did manual ( no app for a Polar) and worked fine..a part i ate back

Now i have a new misfit...which i connected and suddenly the misfit gives me of course not only my exercise but also the walked steps
There seems no way to separate this.
So now i net around 700 or so or 800 a day

But my activity level is already calculate for my steps/activity...and the misfit is doing this double this way.
So really think..that i have to disconnect my misfit again. And i really like it soooo much. And go back to the "old way" MFP calories plus HRM exercise numbers, because the net numbers scare me out rofl

kiela64

BWBTrish wrote: »

I have suddenly a whole other reason to maybe stop logging them

I worked with my MFP calorie allowance for about 9 months
My HRM i did manual ( no app for a Polar) and worked fine..a part i ate back

Now i have a new misfit...which i connected and suddenly the misfit gives me of course not only my exercise but also the walked steps
There seems no way to separate this.
So now i net around 700 or so or 800 a day

But my activity level already calculate for my steps/activity...and the misfit is subtracting double this way.
So really think..that i have to disconnect my misfit again. And i really like it soooo much. And go back to the "old way" MFP calories plus HRM exercise numbers, because the net numbers scare me out rofl

I have a misfit and I had to disconnect it because it added my daily calories burned, so an extra 260cal every morning for doing nothing.... I still love it though & I use it for tracking specific exercise. On the misfit app, there is usually a little bubble for individual exercise like "moderate activity 24min [number of calories] burned" & I use that and input it for my activity. But I think the misfit and mfp apps don't communicate correctly, sadly

BWBTrish

no indeed and the numbers it gives me are pretty right..so no problem there. But it would mean i have to set my diary to zero or so.
lol

So you get an TDEE than.

kiela64

BWBTrish wrote: »

no indeed and the numbers it gives me are pretty right..so no problem there. But it would mean i have to set my diary to zero or so.
lol

So you get an TDEE than.

Yeah, I think that's what it does. I'd rather just focus on the exercise aspect, as the overall calorie burn it estimates on my sedentary days is higher than the mfp's estimation of what I should eat on maintenance (eg today I literally just left it on my desk because my wrist needed a break and it says I burned 1946cal & walked 104 steps). Maybe mine's just defective idk.

barryplumber

IsaackGMOON wrote: »

To be honest @kae612 , eating back 50-75% would be ok for you (I would say 75%).

When people eat at 1200 calories (mainly females), I usually say eat back 100% of your calories because it's such a low amount... they'll still be in a deficit most likely.

Bad advice because they won't be in their target deflict and will be complaining about not losing

BWBTrish

well i tried it out and wearing both
my HRM 330 and my misfit 327 for an hour swimming. Next day HRM 368 and Misfit 355.
I have some days now the Misfit is a bit lower but seem to be pretty accurate.
But the problem is indeed the steps that it logs to MFP while i have that already in my activity level.

And even that is not far off. But because MFP does it and my misfit...i net a couple of hundred now rofl
double dipping so to say.

I maybe try it a whole month and then decide what to do.
I really am tempted to put MFP totally to zero lol and than eat what the Misfit gives me less 400 calories or so.

I will see
But like i said that could be the reason why i will start to not log my exercise calories ( while i always did log them)

kiela64

@BWBTrish ahh ok cool! Yeah, I think that would be the way to keep the misfit synced

PAV8888

cupcakesplz wrote: »

I don't eat my exercise calories back.
Not because I think I will lose more weight each week, but because I am finding it hard to eat them all.
I am working on eating them by drink full cream milk and cheese.
I am still learning and trying to find my balance.
I use my Fitbit charger HR and I love doing extra work outs during the day
I just can't bring my self to eating 1000 extra a day. Over the past 3 years I have put on 20 kg's and I am scared of eating food!

Adjust your MFP activity setting closer to your true activity level (enable negative adjustments) and then you won't be seeing an "extra" 1000 Cal.

While I understand your fear, you have to work on that and realize that you didn't gain the kg's JUST because you ate food.

You gained the kg's because you ate MORE food than you had burned.

You are now MONITORING what you burn with your Fitbit.

For the most part the Fitbit TDEE estimate is correct. I am one of the few people who doesn't say it is 100% correct for me, and it is still well over 90% correct.

If you are not trying to lose faster than your stated goal, and assuming most of these Fitbit calories come from steady state cardio type exercise (walking/running/cycling), you should be eating most of your Fitbit calories back!

Sued0nim

barryplumber wrote: »

IsaackGMOON wrote: »

To be honest @kae612 , eating back 50-75% would be ok for you (I would say 75%).

When people eat at 1200 calories (mainly females), I usually say eat back 100% of your calories because it's such a low amount... they'll still be in a deficit most likely.

Bad advice because they won't be in their target deflict and will be complaining about not losing

Wtf? MFP is set up to exclude exercise so yes, yes they would still be in their target defecit

I eat all my fitbit calories (basic zip I use it to accurately judge my activity level) and around 50-70% of my HRM ones because of the nature of workouts I do that are tracked by HRM..eg some steady-state but also HIIT, weights, calisthenics

Ps this means I log only 50-70% of what my HRM says rather than I mentally calculate the difference

But the important thing is I do a rolling 6-8 week check and adjust based on my actual weight over time

cupcakesplz

Done!
Thank you PAV8888

KittensMaster

The calorie burn numbers are too high

The Map My Ride calorie burns are around 75 calories per mile where other reputable cycling calorie burn sites estimate 50 for 17+ mph rides

On a 40 mile ride that is significant

So I add in quick Add calories to off set it

I have found eating back half of the exercise calories to be close to right.

CSARdiver

@kae612 There's a learning curve in this, so when you start out find someone who's goals are similar and learn from them. As my goals are to increase endurance and strength for overall performance in multisport I have a very different plan than a body builder would. You need to identify where you are in your plan. I am still in the beginning phase and have some more azz to lose before focusing on speed.

Bottom line if you are seeing gains you are doing something right. If these gains stall, then it's time to review the data and improve the accuracy of your logging.

Like @ohmscheeks I know I'm not accurate with my logging, but at this phase I don't need to be, so I overestimate entries on intake and under report my exercise.

kiela64

rabbitjb wrote: »

I eat all my fitbit calories (basic zip I use it to accurately judge my activity level) and around 50-70% of my HRM ones because of the nature of workouts I do that are tracked by HRM..eg some steady-state but also HIIT, weights, calisthenics

Ps this means I log only 50-70% of what my HRM says rather than I mentally calculate the difference

But the important thing is I do a rolling 6-8 week check and adjust based on my actual weight over time

Interesting, what's a "rolling 6-8 week check"? Do you weigh only every 6 weeks or so?

CSARdiver wrote: »

@kae612 There's a learning curve in this, so when you start out find someone who's goals are similar and learn from them. As my goals are to increase endurance and strength for overall performance in multisport I have a very different plan than a body builder would. You need to identify where you are in your plan. I am still in the beginning phase and have some more azz to lose before focusing on speed.

Bottom line if you are seeing gains you are doing something right. If these gains stall, then it's time to review the data and improve the accuracy of your logging.

Like @ohmscheeks I know I'm not accurate with my logging, but at this phase I don't need to be, so I overestimate entries on intake and under report my exercise.

Thanks!