My French diet challenge (warning, high carbs)
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noclady1995 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »noclady1995 wrote: »melimomTARDIS wrote: »well, there is an american pattern of eating. We (americans) do eat dinner earlier than the french, and we do tend to snack more than they do.
all - how many millions of us? huh.
That's the thing about trends. They're never meant to apply to the whole population, sometimes just a plurality. It isn't every single American eats dinner before his/her French counterpart; it's just likely that any given person probably does. With trends, you can generally find or name someone you know that doesn't fit it because it isn't all or nothing.
I've only been to Europe once, and that was in Italy. The food was so yummy and walking plentiful!
It must be the majority of Europe because I had to work in Dublin, Ireland a couple of different times and I walked to and from work every day (it was a 20 min walk each way), as well as lunch and dinner. And the awesome thing is that most everything was walking distance. I even attended a church one Sunday, and walked there. Whether it was 30 degrees or 60 degrees outside, people walked to and from places. I loved it.
Big cities in the US can be like that. I walk 10 mins to the L or ride my bike to work, and one thing I did when deciding to get back in shape was start sometimes getting on and off at less convenient stops to include more walking. I walk to the grocery store and for most errands, walk to church and back (1.25 miles each way, although there are closer churches), so on.
The thing with the US is even in big cities it can be convenient to drive--I have parking at home, which makes it easier to have a car (and gas here is cheaper). The grocery stores in my neighborhood and my church have parking lots, which makes it tempting to drive if it's cold or I am going to have heavy bags. In my city the cost of parking downtown is absolutely insane, so I don't, but in tons of US cities that's not the case.
You're definitely fortunate. You pretty much have to drive to most everywhere where I live in Texas.
For the most part where I live in California, it's the same. We're currently living near downtown though, and there's a big push to make the downtown area much better, so we've had some walking opportunities arise! It's quite lovely.
The public transportation in this city is awful, though.
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Lourdesong wrote: »So, what's the diet? Other than your breakfast I see a list of behaviors, and your breakfast content was vague, emphasis seemed to be that your breakfast should be small. Most Americans have a carby breakfast, so I guess I'm not seeing what's so interesting about your breakfast here.
I am not an expert on this diet but I can give you slight more details about the breakfast. And it is supposed to be smaller and more carb focused compared to our encouraged big breakfast with fats, carbs and protein.
Breakfast can include:
croissant
cereal
pain au chocolat
yogurt
fruit (not too much)
bread/toast with jam
Here is some basic info on the breakfast, I am not an expert on this diet but I only want to see what other people think if they try it
http://thebaguettediet.com/what-french-people-eat-for-breakfast/
I guess I don't think of Americans being encouraged to, or in practice, eat big breakfasts with fats, carbs and protein, except maybe on Sundays and whatnot. When I think of a typical American eating a typical breakfast, I think of cereal; a bagel, muffin, or pastry; buttered toast with jelly or other carby foods (usually prepared and prepackaged) that can go in a toaster; And coffee, something which too can be a very rich carb-laden breakfast on its own depending on how it's prepared.
And the page you linked me to about typical French breakfast doesn't seem too different from my perceptions of typical American breakfasts. And I wouldn't consider an American ordering a Grand Slam at Denny's on a Sunday to be a 'typical' American breakfast, nor would I think it typical breakfast an American getting an Egg and Sausage McMuffin at the drive thru on a busy morning.
Focusing on keeping portions smaller and not inhaling your food seems like a good plan, though. But neither of these behaviors or strategies strike me as uniquely French. I don't know of any culture, including America, that thinks it virtuous to inhale the food on your plate and to over eat.
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Lourdesong wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »So, what's the diet? Other than your breakfast I see a list of behaviors, and your breakfast content was vague, emphasis seemed to be that your breakfast should be small. Most Americans have a carby breakfast, so I guess I'm not seeing what's so interesting about your breakfast here.
I am not an expert on this diet but I can give you slight more details about the breakfast. And it is supposed to be smaller and more carb focused compared to our encouraged big breakfast with fats, carbs and protein.
Breakfast can include:
croissant
cereal
pain au chocolat
yogurt
fruit (not too much)
bread/toast with jam
Here is some basic info on the breakfast, I am not an expert on this diet but I only want to see what other people think if they try it
http://thebaguettediet.com/what-french-people-eat-for-breakfast/
I guess I don't think of Americans being encouraged to, or in practice, eat big breakfasts with fats, carbs and protein, except maybe on Sundays and whatnot. When I think of a typical American eating a typical breakfast, I think of cereal; a bagel, muffin, or pastry; buttered toast with jelly or other carby foods (usually prepared and prepackaged) that can go in a toaster; And coffee, something which too can be a very rich carb-laden breakfast on its own depending on how it's prepared.
And the page you linked me to about typical French breakfast doesn't seem too different from my perceptions of typical American breakfasts. And I wouldn't consider an American ordering a Grand Slam at Denny's on a Sunday to be a 'typical' American breakfast, nor would I think it typical breakfast an American getting an Egg and Sausage McMuffin at the drive thru on a busy morning.
Focusing on keeping portions smaller and not inhaling your food seems like a good plan, though. But neither of these behaviors or strategies strike me as uniquely French. I don't know of any culture, including America, that thinks it virtuous to inhale the food on your plate and to over eat.
Can you please elaborate on inhaling food????? I've never heard of this. Is this a new diet or trend? Or is this a drug thing? *curiosity*0 -
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Lourdesong wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »So, what's the diet? Other than your breakfast I see a list of behaviors, and your breakfast content was vague, emphasis seemed to be that your breakfast should be small. Most Americans have a carby breakfast, so I guess I'm not seeing what's so interesting about your breakfast here.
I am not an expert on this diet but I can give you slight more details about the breakfast. And it is supposed to be smaller and more carb focused compared to our encouraged big breakfast with fats, carbs and protein.
Breakfast can include:
croissant
cereal
pain au chocolat
yogurt
fruit (not too much)
bread/toast with jam
Here is some basic info on the breakfast, I am not an expert on this diet but I only want to see what other people think if they try it
http://thebaguettediet.com/what-french-people-eat-for-breakfast/
I guess I don't think of Americans being encouraged to, or in practice, eat big breakfasts with fats, carbs and protein, except maybe on Sundays and whatnot. When I think of a typical American eating a typical breakfast, I think of cereal; a bagel, muffin, or pastry; buttered toast with jelly or other carby foods (usually prepared and prepackaged) that can go in a toaster; And coffee, something which too can be a very rich carb-laden breakfast on its own depending on how it's prepared.
And the page you linked me to about typical French breakfast doesn't seem too different from my perceptions of typical American breakfasts. And I wouldn't consider an American ordering a Grand Slam at Denny's on a Sunday to be a 'typical' American breakfast, nor would I think it typical breakfast an American getting an Egg and Sausage McMuffin at the drive thru on a busy morning.
Focusing on keeping portions smaller and not inhaling your food seems like a good plan, though. But neither of these behaviors or strategies strike me as uniquely French. I don't know of any culture, including America, that thinks it virtuous to inhale the food on your plate and to over eat.
Can you please elaborate on inhaling food????? I've never heard of this. Is this a new diet or trend? Or is this a drug thing? *curiosity*
If you put a Le big mac or a La pizza in front of me, I will practically inhale it
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It means eating really fast.Lourdesong wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »So, what's the diet? Other than your breakfast I see a list of behaviors, and your breakfast content was vague, emphasis seemed to be that your breakfast should be small. Most Americans have a carby breakfast, so I guess I'm not seeing what's so interesting about your breakfast here.
I am not an expert on this diet but I can give you slight more details about the breakfast. And it is supposed to be smaller and more carb focused compared to our encouraged big breakfast with fats, carbs and protein.
Breakfast can include:
croissant
cereal
pain au chocolat
yogurt
fruit (not too much)
bread/toast with jam
Here is some basic info on the breakfast, I am not an expert on this diet but I only want to see what other people think if they try it
http://thebaguettediet.com/what-french-people-eat-for-breakfast/
I guess I don't think of Americans being encouraged to, or in practice, eat big breakfasts with fats, carbs and protein, except maybe on Sundays and whatnot. When I think of a typical American eating a typical breakfast, I think of cereal; a bagel, muffin, or pastry; buttered toast with jelly or other carby foods (usually prepared and prepackaged) that can go in a toaster; And coffee, something which too can be a very rich carb-laden breakfast on its own depending on how it's prepared.
And the page you linked me to about typical French breakfast doesn't seem too different from my perceptions of typical American breakfasts. And I wouldn't consider an American ordering a Grand Slam at Denny's on a Sunday to be a 'typical' American breakfast, nor would I think it typical breakfast an American getting an Egg and Sausage McMuffin at the drive thru on a busy morning.
Focusing on keeping portions smaller and not inhaling your food seems like a good plan, though. But neither of these behaviors or strategies strike me as uniquely French. I don't know of any culture, including America, that thinks it virtuous to inhale the food on your plate and to over eat.
Can you please elaborate on inhaling food????? I've never heard of this. Is this a new diet or trend? Or is this a drug thing? *curiosity*
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Lourdesong wrote: »
It means eating really fast.Lourdesong wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »So, what's the diet? Other than your breakfast I see a list of behaviors, and your breakfast content was vague, emphasis seemed to be that your breakfast should be small. Most Americans have a carby breakfast, so I guess I'm not seeing what's so interesting about your breakfast here.
I am not an expert on this diet but I can give you slight more details about the breakfast. And it is supposed to be smaller and more carb focused compared to our encouraged big breakfast with fats, carbs and protein.
Breakfast can include:
croissant
cereal
pain au chocolat
yogurt
fruit (not too much)
bread/toast with jam
Here is some basic info on the breakfast, I am not an expert on this diet but I only want to see what other people think if they try it
http://thebaguettediet.com/what-french-people-eat-for-breakfast/
I guess I don't think of Americans being encouraged to, or in practice, eat big breakfasts with fats, carbs and protein, except maybe on Sundays and whatnot. When I think of a typical American eating a typical breakfast, I think of cereal; a bagel, muffin, or pastry; buttered toast with jelly or other carby foods (usually prepared and prepackaged) that can go in a toaster; And coffee, something which too can be a very rich carb-laden breakfast on its own depending on how it's prepared.
And the page you linked me to about typical French breakfast doesn't seem too different from my perceptions of typical American breakfasts. And I wouldn't consider an American ordering a Grand Slam at Denny's on a Sunday to be a 'typical' American breakfast, nor would I think it typical breakfast an American getting an Egg and Sausage McMuffin at the drive thru on a busy morning.
Focusing on keeping portions smaller and not inhaling your food seems like a good plan, though. But neither of these behaviors or strategies strike me as uniquely French. I don't know of any culture, including America, that thinks it virtuous to inhale the food on your plate and to over eat.
Can you please elaborate on inhaling food????? I've never heard of this. Is this a new diet or trend? Or is this a drug thing? *curiosity*
Without chewing properly.. Guilty of that here
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Yup, exactly, pretty much the opposite of savoring. I'm guilty of it too. Esp if I feel famished.christinev297 wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »
It means eating really fast.Lourdesong wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »So, what's the diet? Other than your breakfast I see a list of behaviors, and your breakfast content was vague, emphasis seemed to be that your breakfast should be small. Most Americans have a carby breakfast, so I guess I'm not seeing what's so interesting about your breakfast here.
I am not an expert on this diet but I can give you slight more details about the breakfast. And it is supposed to be smaller and more carb focused compared to our encouraged big breakfast with fats, carbs and protein.
Breakfast can include:
croissant
cereal
pain au chocolat
yogurt
fruit (not too much)
bread/toast with jam
Here is some basic info on the breakfast, I am not an expert on this diet but I only want to see what other people think if they try it
http://thebaguettediet.com/what-french-people-eat-for-breakfast/
I guess I don't think of Americans being encouraged to, or in practice, eat big breakfasts with fats, carbs and protein, except maybe on Sundays and whatnot. When I think of a typical American eating a typical breakfast, I think of cereal; a bagel, muffin, or pastry; buttered toast with jelly or other carby foods (usually prepared and prepackaged) that can go in a toaster; And coffee, something which too can be a very rich carb-laden breakfast on its own depending on how it's prepared.
And the page you linked me to about typical French breakfast doesn't seem too different from my perceptions of typical American breakfasts. And I wouldn't consider an American ordering a Grand Slam at Denny's on a Sunday to be a 'typical' American breakfast, nor would I think it typical breakfast an American getting an Egg and Sausage McMuffin at the drive thru on a busy morning.
Focusing on keeping portions smaller and not inhaling your food seems like a good plan, though. But neither of these behaviors or strategies strike me as uniquely French. I don't know of any culture, including America, that thinks it virtuous to inhale the food on your plate and to over eat.
Can you please elaborate on inhaling food????? I've never heard of this. Is this a new diet or trend? Or is this a drug thing? *curiosity*
Without chewing properly.. Guilty of that here
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »But I don't see where you would be not eating for 5-6 hours if you are eating 3 meals a day (other than while sleeping, which is true of most everyone).
I do this often (and the not snacking thing works well for me, although I never thought it was especially French).
Get up at 5, and eat around 6 (maybe earlier, maybe a bit later if I run/swim first thing and eat after). Lunch around 12, and dinner around 9.
Now I have 'Mr. Brownstone' by GnR stuck in my head.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »healthygreek wrote: »What about the "Italian" diet?
When we were visiting Italy, we did as numerous Italians did and ate a big delicious cornetto every morning! That's a huge croissant filled with cream or Nutella! Oh, and a large cup of cappuccino!
And yet, I stilled managed to maintain! Gotta love that diet!
OMG!!! Cornettos are amazing! We got these white chocolates ones that were incredible! It was 5 years ago and I still dream about those! I lost like 5 lbs during my 3 week trip because of not eating breakfast and walking a ton.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »But I don't see where you would be not eating for 5-6 hours if you are eating 3 meals a day (other than while sleeping, which is true of most everyone).
I do this often (and the not snacking thing works well for me, although I never thought it was especially French).
Get up at 5, and eat around 6 (maybe earlier, maybe a bit later if I run/swim first thing and eat after). Lunch around 12, and dinner around 9.
Now I have 'Mr. Brownstone' by GnR stuck in my head.
Ha! I haven't thought of that song in so long but I can see how it came to mind.0 -
I think it's a bit similar to the No S diet. Any diet will work if it provides a calorie deficit. If you can stick to the diet, it's a good diet for you. I have noticed that if I eat tasty and nutritious food, I am satisfied with less, and thus it's easier to stick to my calorie goal. I'm almost French, too, well at least I'm European. Oh, and we aren't all thin, although we walk, bike and run a lot.0
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UltimateRBF wrote: »I thought the French diet consisted solely of baguettes, cigarettes, and wine.
Oh and cheese.
I should have lost tons by now!
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WinoGelato wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I thought the French diet consisted solely of baguettes, cigarettes, and wine.
Oh and cheese.
I am so down with that.
Hah! My brother lived in Holland for many years and the the first time I visited him he asked what I wanted for breakfast. I replied, "How about a typical Dutch breakfast?" His reply, " Sure, that's a cup of coffee and a cigarette!". LOL0
, I was kind of at a lost of what to do once I hit my goal about more than a month ago. To keep me from gaining the weight I pushed back my goal. 
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