I ate more to lose weight - i put on and now can't lose
melaniejoy82
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HELP! I ate more to lose weight, and it really didn't work and I put on a inch around my stomach and hips, and now my favourite jeans don't fit...... after 2 months of eating more than I ever have, three weeks ago I went back down to what I was eating before but I don't seem to be losing anything :-(
I follow James Duigan's method, although I maybe eat a bit late (I commute 1,5 hours to work) and I often end up having yogurt, some berries and nuts just before I go to bed - should I stop this?
I've recently started doing HIIT class once a week, and kettlebell class once a week, and run 2-3 times a week.
What should I do?? It's 10.5 months until my wedding, am I doing all the right things?
I follow James Duigan's method, although I maybe eat a bit late (I commute 1,5 hours to work) and I often end up having yogurt, some berries and nuts just before I go to bed - should I stop this?
I've recently started doing HIIT class once a week, and kettlebell class once a week, and run 2-3 times a week.
What should I do?? It's 10.5 months until my wedding, am I doing all the right things?
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i knew ,that s**** is not working!they always say that,but i tried it a little and it didn't work with me either. i went back to eating less.Often the thing says that i'm eating way to few calories and that will slow my metabolism and make it harder to lose weight,but atleast i'm losing a little bit,cuz when i eat like normal people, i don't lose at all or gain some. i'm not specialist or anything,but i'm just sying what's happening to me. i think my metabolism works backwords anyway,maybe u have that problem too...0
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How much more were you eating? Calorie wise.0
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How much more were you eating? Calorie wise.
about 300-400 calories more per day.0 -
ETA: Clearly there's a miscalulation of your energy needs and/or your consumption. More than likely both. Plus this method is normally only recommended if you've hit a stalling point on a low calorie approach. Re-run your numbers, weigh all your food, measure your exercise as accurately as possible and it works. The laws of thermodynamics apply to everyone.0 -
Im wondering just because I see you averaging 1500. I went back a month and still saw 1300-1500. How many calories were you eating before?
I have MFP set at losing alb a week, which puts me at 1465 and I eat exercise calories which has me at around 1900. I have been losing steadily. It definitely works but what works for me may not work for everyone. I also have hormonal problems which makes it a little difficult to lose but I am still losing bit by bit.
Best of luck.
BTW the 1900 is around the same of my TDEE - 20%0 -
Don't worry you can still turn it around. I wasted months following advice on here about eating more and gained what I lost initially by eating lower cals before I started reading the forums.
I am finally losing again by eating less and eating lower carbs too.0 -
I dont know anything about the method that you are using, but 8:00 is a late dinner if you are going to bed at aroudn 10:00. I would move dinner earlier, and not eat anything after 8:00 pm unless its a little bit of protein. Make sure you are getting enough sleep as well, lack of lseep really stalled my weight loss.
I think that you are taking the right steps as far as joining a HIIT class, I would encourage you to continue exercising. As for adjusting your calories I would use the TDEE method and be honest about the amount of work you are doing. Just rememer with TDEE you dont add your calories back.
Also, I would lay off the nuts. Replace some of those with meat, its a lot of fats, and they could be adversly affecting your loss. You might be hitting calories but your body processes things differently.
I think protein and less carbs would really help you as well. Try doing IIFYM and hitting your macronutrients. Personally cutting carbs helped me, and so did excluding gluten, but that doesnt work for everyone.
I swtiched from 1200 cal of MFP plan to TDEE when I started weight lifting, because it takes more energy to convert the fat to muscle than to just lose fat. I had stalled out weightlifting and doing 1200 calories because I wasnt providing my body with enough fuel. But even then it only increased me to 1465 calories, it wasnt a huge jump. It looks like you are eating at 1700 with your increased calories, and that seems like much for someone just starting to work out.
I think we will need to know your:
age
height
weight
and goal/weekly/fitness/overall
in order to help you better0 -
HELP! I ate more to lose weight, and it really didn't work and I put on a inch around my stomach and hips, and now my favourite jeans don't fit...... after 2 months of eating more than I ever have, three weeks ago I went back down to what I was eating before but I don't seem to be losing anything :-(
I follow James Duigan's method, although I maybe eat a bit late (I commute 1,5 hours to work) and I often end up having yogurt, some berries and nuts just before I go to bed - should I stop this?
I've recently started doing HIIT class once a week, and kettlebell class once a week, and run 2-3 times a week.
What should I do?? It's 10.5 months until my wedding, am I doing all the right things?
I just posted about feeling like I am not eating enough because I didn't want it to become a problem so I looked into it after only a week of feeling this way. I got some really good suggestions but there were a lot of people telling me I had an eating disorder and they didn't believe me and I shouldn't have posted that all kinds of bull**** basically. I did notice however that most of the people going crazy over me posting that thread were people that did not have weight loss goals and were really buff (men and women a like). I have also noticed that when I eat TOO little the weight stays but I would say do what works for you. Different things work for different people. I will try some of the suggestions given to me in the thread but if it doesn't work for me I won't do it. I usually eat anywhere between 1350 - 1500 calories but the suggestions were 1800 cals to 2300! My problem mostly though was that I just haven't been hungry. I left my lunch in the car so it is done for and you better believe I got an appetite now! Also, don't fix it if it aint broke. If you were doing fine on the lower calorie diet and someone just told you that you should eat more than I would definitely go back to the old diet. Now if you changed your calorie intake because of some other reasons than you might have some investigating to do.0 -
I dont know anything about the method that you are using, but 8:00 is a late dinner if you are going to bed at aroudn 10:00. I would move dinner earlier, and not eat anything after 8:00 pm unless its a little bit of protein. Make sure you are getting enough sleep as well, lack of lseep really stalled my weight loss.
I think that you are taking the right steps as far as joining a HIIT class, I would encourage you to continue exercising. As for adjusting your calories I would use the TDEE method and be honest about the amount of work you are doing. Just rememer with TDEE you dont add your calories back.
Also, I would lay off the nuts. Replace some of those with meat, its a lot of fats, and they could be adversly affecting your loss. You might be hitting calories but your body processes things differently.
I think protein and less carbs would really help you as well. Try doing IIFYM and hitting your macronutrients. Personally cutting carbs helped me, and so did excluding gluten, but that doesnt work for everyone.
I swtiched from 1200 cal of MFP plan to TDEE when I started weight lifting, because it takes more energy to convert the fat to muscle than to just lose fat. I had stalled out weightlifting and doing 1200 calories because I wasnt providing my body with enough fuel. But even then it only increased me to 1465 calories, it wasnt a huge jump. It looks like you are eating at 1700 with your increased calories, and that seems like much for someone just starting to work out.
I think we will need to know your:
age
height
weight
and goal/weekly/fitness/overall
in order to help you better
1) Meal timing makes no difference to weight loss, or you would not have so many night shift workers and people doing Intermittent fasting having such success. Stop perpetuating myths.
2) There is nothing wrong with nuts, and fat contributes to weight gain no more than any other macro, if one is remaining below calories.0 -
Don't worry you can still turn it around. I wasted months following advice on here about eating more and gained what I lost initially by eating lower cals before I started reading the forums.
I am finally losing again by eating less and eating lower carbs too.
How long did it take to get back to losing once you went back to a low cal diet?0 -
Unless it causes tummy problems, don't worry about what time you eat. Your body doesn't know what time it is, only what you're consuming throughout the day.0
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I find not eating 2 hours before bed helps. Maybe you should try not having that yoghurt and nuts just before going to bed lol. I dont alwasy eat back my excerise calories and im always under my calorie goal. I find eating less helps me also that what they have here. I eat enough that keeps me going. Im actaully going to do my first fast day today and going to try this flat flush detox i keep hearing about maybe you could give the a little go
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Eat more to weigh less is a dumb name in my opinion!
It should be called eat what you are supposed to, to weigh less!
The problem with this method, is that it puts you pretty close to your TDEE, so there isn't much room for error! If you're going to do this, than you really need to be good about logging your food and excersice!
Bottom line: If you are gaining, you are miscalculating!0 -
You're doing it wrong. Eating More to Weigh Less doesn't mean eating what ever the hell you want. You still have to eat less than your TDEE to lose weight, but it means you don't have to starve yourself.
Find out your TDEE and eat 15 or 20% less.0 -
1. Weigh everything you eat on digital scales - never guesstimate and don't go by the 'cups' method as it's highly inaccurate.
2. It could well be that your calorie output estimation for exercise is out. For instance I don't use MFP estimations as they are about a third higher on cardio than I'm actually burning. If you're doing cardio I'd use a HRM or else get a device (Fitbit, Bodymedia etc) to track your daily output.
3. What time you eat your meals makes absolutely no difference to weight-loss - it's total bunkum. Eat however best fits your schedule.
So IMO I'd keep it simple:
- If you have a desk job, set MFP to Sedentary and log all your cardio & strength exercises.
- Eat back those calories (some people - like me, who has a lot of weight to lose - don't eat back *all* of them but you should be eating back at least half)
The only way that won't work is if you have some underlying thyroid or hormonal problem or your on medication that impacts on weight loss. If all those can be discounted and it's not working, I'm afraid it really does come down to either under-estimation of food or over-estimation of calorie expenditure.0 -
You're doing it wrong. Eating More to Weigh Less doesn't mean eating what ever the hell you want. You still have to eat less than your TDEE to lose weight, but it means you don't have to starve yourself.
Find out your TDEE and eat 15 or 20% less.
That was a bit aggressive! I did, and do, weigh everything, eat small meals every 3 hours, and follow James duigan's plan. :-(0 -
HELP! I ate more to lose weight, and it really didn't work and I put on a inch around my stomach and hips, and now my favourite jeans don't fit...... after 2 months of eating more than I ever have, three weeks ago I went back down to what I was eating before but I don't seem to be losing anything :-(
I follow James Duigan's method, although I maybe eat a bit late (I commute 1,5 hours to work) and I often end up having yogurt, some berries and nuts just before I go to bed - should I stop this?
I've recently started doing HIIT class once a week, and kettlebell class once a week, and run 2-3 times a week.
What should I do?? It's 10.5 months until my wedding, am I doing all the right things?
"Eating more than i ever have" makes me think you were A. Eating too much (at a surplus) or B. ...were eating too much.
Meal timing doesn't matter. I eat from the time I wake up to the time I hit the bed with no issue. Meal sizing and frequency also mean little.
As others have said your stats are needed before any advice can be given.
Edit: I went all the way back to April in your diary. You have a lot of days missing or partially filled (unless you really eat 300 calories some days) and you only ate more when eating exercise calories; I can't see where you ever increased above the 1200's.0 -
That was a bit aggressive! I did, and do, weigh everything, eat small meals every 3 hours, and follow James duigan's plan. :-(
Eating small meals every 3 hours doesn't do anything at all...other than mean you have to think about eating something every 3 hours and probably have more washing up to do. It comes down to how many calories you average in -v- how many you average out. That's it.
Do you possibly have MFP set up to lose 2lbs a week? I looked at your diary and your goal calories seemed awfully low when exercise was taken into account. If you do, I'd really encourage you to change it to 1lb a week which is the recommended. You really have no need to go to 2lbs unless you are morbidly obese with mountains to lose.
So I'd simply set up MFP for the recommended 1lb a week loss, continue to weigh everything, enter in your exercise calories and eat most of them back. That should result in weight loss.0 -
Age: 30
Height: 5'4''
Weight: 153
I was a steady 140-145lbs for years until I tried to 'fix' my metabolism a few months ago. I did all the tests and found my TDEE and ate 20% under it. I gained. I haven't cheated and have weighed everything.
I do have polycystic ovaries which causes a few issues too.
I am now eating around 1300 calories a day. I'm going to try and be stricter with myself and stick below 1300 and also am going to try to eat primal.0 -
That was a bit aggressive! I did, and do, weigh everything, eat small meals every 3 hours, and follow James duigan's plan. :-(
Eating small meals every 3 hours doesn't do anything at all...other than mean you have to think about eating something every 3 hours and probably have more washing up to do. It comes down to how many calories you average in -v- how many you average out. That's it.
Do you possibly have MFP set up to lose 2lbs a week? I looked at your diary and your goal calories seemed awfully low when exercise was taken into account. If you do, I'd really encourage you to change it to 1lb a week which is the recommended. You really have no need to go to 2lbs unless you are morbidly obese with mountains to lose.
So I'd simply set up MFP for the recommended 1lb a week loss, continue to weigh everything, enter in your exercise calories and eat most of them back. That should result in weight loss.
Thank you! I have got it set to 1lb....I'll take a look and reassess. :-)0 -
increasing the intensity and variety of you workouts is key, 1500 cal is nothing when your smashing a HIIT session0
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Age: 30
Height: 5'4''
Weight: 153
I was a steady 140-145lbs for years until I tried to 'fix' my metabolism a few months ago. I did all the tests and found my TDEE and ate 20% under it. I gained. I haven't cheated and have weighed everything.
I do have polycystic ovaries which causes a few issues too.
I am now eating around 1300 calories a day. I'm going to try and be stricter with myself and stick below 1300 and also am going to try to eat primal.
Well your BMR to maintain is 1473 so if you have been eating at 1200 for years, it means you have been undereating all this time. According to your posts you put the 5lb weight before you upped your calories. It seems more that it is hormonal (3 cup sizes) and stress (planning wedding, selling house) and increase in exercise. Pick a diet plan and stick to that, try to relax and sleep a lot, and do more ab exercises. You have not been overeating that much in order to put the weight around your inch and stomach.0 -
Not sure about the finite details. I upped my cals a bit which made me feel alot better energy wise. I did initially put on a bit of weight but to be honest I'm not sure it was a bad thing. however, i then was moving house and cut down on exercise as well as had a bad time comfort eating as moved away from my man.
Perhaps you're not be losing now because you've upped your exercise? muscle weighs more than fat?
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increasing the intensity and variety of you workouts is key, 1500 cal is nothing when your smashing a HIIT session
Funny you should say that....I've started doing HIIT classes on Saturday mornings and got my first hour long kettlebell class tonight. :-)0 -
Looking at your diet and exercise regime, I'm pretty impressed, looks like a healthy plan !
Taking the last week as an example, you seem to eat over your fat quota, so it looks like if you cut out the nuts and keep an eye on the oil you'll be where you want to be. Going over on the fat quota is possible the worse bit to go over on !
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Looking at your diet and exercise regime, I'm pretty impressed, looks like a healthy plan !
Taking the last week as an example, you seem to eat over your fat quota, so it looks like if you cut out the nuts and keep an eye on the oil you'll be where you want to be. Going over on the fat quota is possible the worse bit to go over on !
Good luck
Good plan, thanks!! :-)0 -
ETA: Clearly there's a miscalulation of your energy needs and/or your consumption. More than likely both. Plus this method is normally only recommended if you've hit a stalling point on a low calorie approach. Re-run your numbers, weigh all your food, measure your exercise as accurately as possible and it works. The laws of thermodynamics apply to everyone.
THIS. I ate more for 8 weeks, gained 12 pounds, then cut my calories. After a few weeks of bouncing around, I realized I was still eating too much for my activity. I set MFP to lightly active, giving me 1640 base calories. I eat back exercise calories instead of reaching for a solid number. Since I changed this, I have lost 2 pounds in two weeks. I found that I was overeating when reaching for that number. Eating back calories makes me feel like I'm getting just enough each day, so it works for me. Plus I'm logging more accurately.
They call it "Eat more to weigh less" but it doesn't really just mean "eat more." It means eat more than your BMR, but less than your TDEE.0 -
Age: 30
Height: 5'4''
Weight: 153
I was a steady 140-145lbs for years until I tried to 'fix' my metabolism a few months ago. I did all the tests and found my TDEE and ate 20% under it. I gained. I haven't cheated and have weighed everything.
I do have polycystic ovaries which causes a few issues too.
I am now eating around 1300 calories a day. I'm going to try and be stricter with myself and stick below 1300 and also am going to try to eat primal.
Your BMR is 1401, according to the St Mifflin-Jeor formula. Long as you don't eat below that, maybe a range of 1400-1700 (depending on exercise)... you should be okay. Eating below BMR is what led you to eat more in the first place right? At any rate, good luck.0 -
If you read that "Eat more to lose" thread..no one is every losing!!! It is just a nice idea. Poor thing.. it is so hard to lose right after you've gained if you were dieting before.
Just relax.. set you calories where they need to be on mfp and get back to it.. it will come off.0 -
Nuts are a healthy fat. Fat does not make you gain weight. Calories do. Nuts are GOOD for you, as long as they aren't salted. Lay off the "nuts are bad" mantra.0
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