Squat 305 x 5 @ 190# bodyweight (video)

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  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Hard to assess depth at that angle, looks a tad shallow to me.

    But I'd have a few questions/comments in addition to the depth comment:

    1) I'd like to see what happens at the ankle and your feet are out of view. Submit a clip from the side view at knee height so that we can assess depth and see what's going on in terms of the bar path, and position of the barbell relative the midfoot.


    2) I'd like to see your squat done with much better breathing. In the last video in your last post, it looks like you unrack and barely let the bar settle and you're already descending.

    I'd like to see you unrack, let the bar settle. Take a DEEP BREATH into your belly, jam your tongue into the roof of your mouth, and then squat while holding your breath. Exhale forcefully at the lockout, and take another DEEP BREATH at the top before you descend again.

    It seems to me like you're not tight enough, and not breathing intently and aggressively at the top. You're sort of half-assing it and breathing on the way down.

    You should get into position (let the bar settle)
    Deep Deep breath, get TIGHT, and THEN drop into the squat.
  • McCloud33
    McCloud33 Posts: 959 Member
    edited August 2015
    SideSteel wrote: »
    Hard to assess depth at that angle, looks a tad shallow to me.

    But I'd have a few questions/comments in addition to the depth comment:

    1) I'd like to see what happens at the ankle and your feet are out of view. Submit a clip from the side view at knee height so that we can assess depth and see what's going on in terms of the bar path, and position of the barbell relative the midfoot.


    2) I'd like to see your squat done with much better breathing. In the last video in your last post, it looks like you unrack and barely let the bar settle and you're already descending.

    I'd like to see you unrack, let the bar settle. Take a DEEP BREATH into your belly, jam your tongue into the roof of your mouth, and then squat while holding your breath. Exhale forcefully at the lockout, and take another DEEP BREATH at the top before you descend again.

    It seems to me like you're not tight enough, and not breathing intently and aggressively at the top. You're sort of half-assing it and breathing on the way down.

    You should get into position (let the bar settle)
    Deep Deep breath, get TIGHT, and THEN drop into the squat.

    @SideSteel , I'll see what I can do as far as the camera angle. There's not a ton of room to the side of the squat racks. As far as depth, I'll be curious to see that as well. I go down as low as my legs will let me (Hammies are touching my calves). You're right as well that I don't take a DEEP breath at the top, but I can tell you that I'm definitely not breathing on the way down and hold my breath through the movement. Thanks for the tips though...I'm squatting again tomorrow, so I'll see if I can get that side angle.
  • McCloud33
    McCloud33 Posts: 959 Member
    edited August 2015
    SideSteel wrote: »
    Hard to assess depth at that angle, looks a tad shallow to me.

    But I'd have a few questions/comments in addition to the depth comment:

    1) I'd like to see what happens at the ankle and your feet are out of view. Submit a clip from the side view at knee height so that we can assess depth and see what's going on in terms of the bar path, and position of the barbell relative the midfoot.


    2) I'd like to see your squat done with much better breathing. In the last video in your last post, it looks like you unrack and barely let the bar settle and you're already descending.

    I'd like to see you unrack, let the bar settle. Take a DEEP BREATH into your belly, jam your tongue into the roof of your mouth, and then squat while holding your breath. Exhale forcefully at the lockout, and take another DEEP BREATH at the top before you descend again.

    It seems to me like you're not tight enough, and not breathing intently and aggressively at the top. You're sort of half-assing it and breathing on the way down.

    You should get into position (let the bar settle)
    Deep Deep breath, get TIGHT, and THEN drop into the squat.

    @SideSteel @piperdown44 @nakedraygun @JoRocka @Iron_Miss_Canada Ok, so here's the side angle at 275lbs. I'm not as low as I thought (would like), but I still feel like I'm about parallel. I can experiment with a wider stance to try and get lower because this is as low as I can go with ~shoulder width and feet out at about 30*. Keep in mind that I'm not planning on competing in any power lifting meets or anything...this is just to feel strong, build muscle and generally feel like a bad@ss (and hopefully not get hurt in the process).


  • McCloud33
    McCloud33 Posts: 959 Member
    edited August 2015
    bump...any comments on form from the last video posted? Depth, bar travel path vs mid-foot positions, etc...?
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    McCloud33 wrote: »
    Did you see that on all weights, or just as it gets heavier

    It's definitely more prevelant at the higher weights. But near max attempts bring out the form issues that you can address training at lower weights. One of the best training cycles I did for smoothing out my form was a slow tempo one. Painfully brutal - my programmer apologized for it but it worked wonders.


    nods.

    heavy weight always brings out weakness.
    #stillfixingmyself

    I'll try to catch up tonight on video.
  • giantrobot_powerlifting
    giantrobot_powerlifting Posts: 2,598 Member
    Yep, heavier weights will expose your weaknesses which happens about the 3rd rep for you in the video @McCloud33 . Otherwise, you look pretty solid and as long as your knees are tracking in line with your feet and you are not pushing up with your chest you should be fine. One little tweak I made this morning was to keep my head down, looking at the floor - that helped me tremendously at heavier weights to not lead with my chest. (310 lbs.) Still, Rep 4 and 5 kinda sucked, but hip hinge was there.
  • McCloud33
    McCloud33 Posts: 959 Member
    Yep, heavier weights will expose your weaknesses which happens about the 3rd rep for you in the video @McCloud33 . Otherwise, you look pretty solid and as long as your knees are tracking in line with your feet and you are not pushing up with your chest you should be fine. One little tweak I made this morning was to keep my head down, looking at the floor - that helped me tremendously at heavier weights to not lead with my chest. (310 lbs.) Still, Rep 4 and 5 kinda sucked, but hip hinge was there.

    @nakedraygun I think I had the safety up one to high, so on my third rep I actually had the bar bump it and it kind of threw me off. It don't think it looks like I struggled as much with 4 or 5 though.

    What do you mean not pushing up with my chest though? I thought you wanted to push your chest up/out, otherwise I end up with more of that "good morning" motion at the end. I try and synchronize my knees/hips/chest so that it's all one motion.
  • giantrobot_powerlifting
    giantrobot_powerlifting Posts: 2,598 Member
    McCloud33 wrote: »
    Yep, heavier weights will expose your weaknesses which happens about the 3rd rep for you in the video @McCloud33 . Otherwise, you look pretty solid and as long as your knees are tracking in line with your feet and you are not pushing up with your chest you should be fine. One little tweak I made this morning was to keep my head down, looking at the floor - that helped me tremendously at heavier weights to not lead with my chest. (310 lbs.) Still, Rep 4 and 5 kinda sucked, but hip hinge was there.

    @nakedraygun I think I had the safety up one to high, so on my third rep I actually had the bar bump it and it kind of threw me off. It don't think it looks like I struggled as much with 4 or 5 though.

    What do you mean not pushing up with my chest though? I thought you wanted to push your chest up/out, otherwise I end up with more of that "good morning" motion at the end. I try and synchronize my knees/hips/chest so that it's all one motion.

    I had that happen to me too this morning on front squats. F'n bane of my existence.

    Srry, I mean, "lead" with your chest. I blame the coffee, as in lack of.

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