Will I be able to lose 3 pound a week doing this?

RedGeezer
RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
edited November 23 in Health and Weight Loss
if I ate 1500 calories a day but burned say 500 to 600 exercising, but not eating any back. That's a 1500 caloric deficit. Would this in theory work? I know it's generally not recommended to lose more than 2lb a week, but it can be done I'm told.
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  • strong_curves
    strong_curves Posts: 2,229 Member
    edited August 2015
    Your math is wrong.
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    First as a male you should net at least 1500. Second as a young male you probably need to eat a heck of a lot more that that. Third unless you have well over 100 lbs to lose 3lbs a week isn't realistic or healthy. You'll be losing a lot of muscle mass with that plan.
  • RedGeezer
    RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
    Your math is wrong.

    Correct me then ;)
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    It can be done in theory, yes - but how do you expect to exercise enough to burn 500-600 calories per day, every day, long term, while not properly fueling your body?
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    First as a male you should net at least 1500. Second as a young male you probably need to eat a heck of a lot more that that. Third unless you have well over 100 lbs to lose 3lbs a week isn't realistic or healthy. You'll be losing a lot of muscle mass with that plan.

    Also, this^^

    Skinny fat is not a good look.
  • RedGeezer
    RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
    It can be done in theory, yes - but how do you expect to exercise enough to burn 500-600 calories per day, every day, long term, while not properly fueling your body?

    I think I could do it. I may trial it until January.
  • RedGeezer
    RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
    First as a male you should net at least 1500. Second as a young male you probably need to eat a heck of a lot more that that. Third unless you have well over 100 lbs to lose 3lbs a week isn't realistic or healthy. You'll be losing a lot of muscle mass with that plan.

    So you don't think I should just try it until January? I'm currently on course to lose 2lb a week, I'm not convinced that aiming to lose a pound more will do much damage.
  • soapsandropes
    soapsandropes Posts: 269 Member
    1500-500= 1000 calories. The actual deficit is dependent on what your BMR is. You won't be able to last on 1000 calories, let alone keep exercising. And why would you want to be miserable and using your muscles as well as your fat as fuel?
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    Your math is wrong.

    Why? Presuming hes been told his maintenance is 2500.

    OP yes in theory but it isnt linear and thoery wont translate perfectly into practice for many reasons. Accuracy being one. You might manage that rate in the first weeks but it will slow.
  • RedGeezer
    RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
    1500-500= 1000 calories. The actual deficit is dependent on what your BMR is. You won't be able to last on 1000 calories, let alone keep exercising. And why would you want to be miserable and using your muscles as well as your fat as fuel?

    Well to lose 2lb a week I have to eat 1500 calories a day. Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    Yes it will can be possible

    But you will get short of the right nutrition the longer you keep it up
    netting lower than 1000 calories is a bad idea
    Even netting 1500 with so many exercise is not a good idea

    your body will need its nutrition and the longer you keep it up the more you will get the urge to eat "things" you willpower will be tested
    And it can damaged your body in the long run...all depends on the person and how fit they are.


    But no it is not a good idea.
  • RedGeezer
    RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
    BWBTrish wrote: »
    Yes it will can be possible

    But you will get short of the right nutrition the longer you keep it up
    netting lower than 1000 calories is a bad idea
    Even netting 1500 with so many exercise is not a good idea

    your body will need its nutrition and the longer you keep it up the more you will get the urge to eat "things" you willpower will be tested
    And it can damaged your body in the long run...all depends on the person and how fit they are.


    But no it is not a good idea.

    I know it's not a good idea long term, but I'd like to just test it until January. I'm a pretty dedicated and determined person.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    A recipe for failure, sorry :(
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    1500-500= 1000 calories. The actual deficit is dependent on what your BMR is. You won't be able to last on 1000 calories, let alone keep exercising. And why would you want to be miserable and using your muscles as well as your fat as fuel?

    Well to lose 2lb a week I have to eat 1500 calories a day. Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.

    That will change over time, just wait it out.

  • soapsandropes
    soapsandropes Posts: 269 Member
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.

    Hey it isn't advisable but we can't stop you. I don't see why you would want to risk your general health for an extra pound a week.
  • RedGeezer
    RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.

    Hey it isn't advisable but we can't stop you. I don't see why you would want to risk your general health for an extra pound a week.

    What's the worst that can actually happen? I don't want to come across as arrogant. But I'm not overly concerned about losing muscle. I think it's inevitable that you lose both fat and muscle. You can always gain that muscle back once you're at your weight goal?
  • evileen99
    evileen99 Posts: 1,564 Member
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.

    Hey it isn't advisable but we can't stop you. I don't see why you would want to risk your general health for an extra pound a week.

    What's the worst that can actually happen? I don't want to come across as arrogant. But I'm not overly concerned about losing muscle. I think it's inevitable that you lose both fat and muscle. You can always gain that muscle back once you're at your weight goal?

    Building muscle is WAY harder than preserving it. If this is the look you want, then by all means undereat and burn through your lean muscle:

    skinny%20fat%202_zps6jbrxnwh.jpg
  • soapsandropes
    soapsandropes Posts: 269 Member
    Muscle loss, fatigue, feeling like crap, gall stones, anemia, potential heart problems, nutrient deficiencies (which could lead to hair loss and a host of other issues).

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/low-calorie-diets
    http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/very-low-calorie-diets.aspx
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.

    Hey it isn't advisable but we can't stop you. I don't see why you would want to risk your general health for an extra pound a week.

    What's the worst that can actually happen? I don't want to come across as arrogant. But I'm not overly concerned about losing muscle. I think it's inevitable that you lose both fat and muscle. You can always gain that muscle back once you're at your weight goal?

    you asked advice and than its like we are here idiots giving you bad advice.

    but it starts out with a range of things like
    mal or lack of nutrition ( which you dont notice in the begining)
    msucle loss
    bad breath
    hair loss ( whole bunches of it)
    hair thinning
    breaking nails

    Now for woman periods that stop ( you would think horayyy but not a good thing believe me)
    Your heart is a muscle and uses together with your brains the most calories
    Guess what your body does to survive and get the calories away from....

    Than we get the dangerous situation like
    no concentration
    fatigue
    numbness
    disturbed movements and slower reaction time ( do you drive a car??? )

    This is damage that will recover after feeding your body right again but it will take months or longer to get it back were it was
    The damage done by the long term is very diverse and not revers-able

    Oh and think of the fact of injuries...because you get slowly weaker you can hurt your self..straining a muscle...fall, break something etc.

    This is just a very simple list...read up on it what mal nutrition and not getting enough of it would and will do to a human body.

  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    edited August 2015
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Your math is wrong.

    Correct me then ;)

    Eating 1,500...........is this 1,000 less than your maintenance (before exercise) ?

    MFP as designed gives you a MINIMUM of 1,500 net. So perhaps 1,500 is 1,000 less than maintenance before exercise....perhaps not.

    MFP as designed gives you a minimum of 1,500 NET. That "net" mean MFP expects you to eat those exercise calories back. Why eat calories back? To ensure you get enough calories for heart, lung, kidney (etc) function....and to help your body support existing lean muscle mass.

    This is why there are weekly maximum amounts of weight loss recommended. Healthy weight loss helps you reduce body fat without sacrificing your health (#1) and reduces your overall body fat %....instead of just moving the number on the scale as fast as possible.
  • RedGeezer
    RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
    evileen99 wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.

    Hey it isn't advisable but we can't stop you. I don't see why you would want to risk your general health for an extra pound a week.

    What's the worst that can actually happen? I don't want to come across as arrogant. But I'm not overly concerned about losing muscle. I think it's inevitable that you lose both fat and muscle. You can always gain that muscle back once you're at your weight goal?

    Building muscle is WAY harder than preserving it. If this is the look you want, then by all means undereat and burn through your lean muscle:

    skinny%20fat%202_zps6jbrxnwh.jpg

    No I don't want that look at all actually. I should keep my muscle if I aim to lose 2lb a week right?
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    Oh and the point is...you dont feel it right away
    So when you hair starts to fall out that can take weeks or months

    the feeling fatique or concentration problems etc can take months
    Solving it than will take months too. It wont be like ok i eat some more and it will go....that will take time also.

    Different from person to person.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    evileen99 wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.

    Hey it isn't advisable but we can't stop you. I don't see why you would want to risk your general health for an extra pound a week.

    What's the worst that can actually happen? I don't want to come across as arrogant. But I'm not overly concerned about losing muscle. I think it's inevitable that you lose both fat and muscle. You can always gain that muscle back once you're at your weight goal?

    Building muscle is WAY harder than preserving it. If this is the look you want, then by all means undereat and burn through your lean muscle:

    skinny%20fat%202_zps6jbrxnwh.jpg

    No I don't want that look at all actually. I should keep my muscle if I aim to lose 2lb a week right?

    you will lose less muscle but you will lose
    But by eating enough you maintain as much as possible

    And trying to go by the MFP settings you can eat much more
    When you train that hard...eat more and you will keep more muscle than losing weight fast.
    In the long run a win situation
    Takes only more patience

  • RedGeezer
    RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
    TeaBea wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Your math is wrong.

    Correct me then ;)

    Eating 1,500...........is this 1,000 less than your maintenance (before exercise) ?

    MFP as designed gives you a MINIMUM of 1,500 net. So perhaps 1,500 is 1,000 less than maintenance....perhaps not.

    MFP as designed gives you a minimum of 1,500 NET. That "net" mean MFP expects you to eat those exercise calories back. Why eat calories back? To ensure you get enough calories for heart, lung, kidney (etc) function....and to help your body support existing lean muscle mass.

    This is why there are weekly maximum amounts of weight loss recommended. Healthy weight loss helps you reduce body fat without sacrificing your health (#1) and reduces your overall body fat %....instead of just moving the number on the scale as fast as possible.

    Thanks for informing me, I will stick to my goal of losing 2lb a week. Eating exercise calories back confuses me. Some say eat it back, some say don't.

  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.

    Hey it isn't advisable but we can't stop you. I don't see why you would want to risk your general health for an extra pound a week.

    What's the worst that can actually happen? I don't want to come across as arrogant. But I'm not overly concerned about losing muscle. I think it's inevitable that you lose both fat and muscle. You can always gain that muscle back once you're at your weight goal?

    Wow - snap your fingers....just like that.

    Um....you replace muscle by eating MORE than maintenance. But then you will gain muscle + fat. Bulking and leaning out is hard work.
  • evileen99
    evileen99 Posts: 1,564 Member
    You'll keep your muscle by lifting heavy weights while netting at least 1500 calories.
  • RedGeezer
    RedGeezer Posts: 38 Member
    BWBTrish wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    evileen99 wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    RedGeezer wrote: »
    Currently I only eat 1200 to 1300. I don't feel horrible. I'm rarely hungry.

    Hey it isn't advisable but we can't stop you. I don't see why you would want to risk your general health for an extra pound a week.

    What's the worst that can actually happen? I don't want to come across as arrogant. But I'm not overly concerned about losing muscle. I think it's inevitable that you lose both fat and muscle. You can always gain that muscle back once you're at your weight goal?

    Building muscle is WAY harder than preserving it. If this is the look you want, then by all means undereat and burn through your lean muscle:

    skinny%20fat%202_zps6jbrxnwh.jpg

    No I don't want that look at all actually. I should keep my muscle if I aim to lose 2lb a week right?

    you will lose less muscle but you will lose
    But by eating enough you maintain as much as possible

    And trying to go by the MFP settings you can eat much more
    When you train that hard...eat more and you will keep more muscle than losing weight fast.
    In the long run a win situation
    Takes only more patience

    Haha I understand. My problem is I'm massively impatient. When I want to do something, I often try to achieve it as quick as possible. It's probably my OCD getting the better of me.
  • daniwilford
    daniwilford Posts: 1,030 Member
    RedGeezer wrote: »

    No I don't want that look at all actually. I should keep my muscle if I aim to lose 2lb a week right?

    Provided you eat enough protein (about 1 gram for each pound of lean body mass) and do some strength training, yes you can lose mostly fat. It is safe to lose an average of 2 pounds a week if you weigh at least 200 pounds. If you drop below 200 then you will need to adjust to a slower rate. It is not linear so some weeks you may lose a little more and others a little less, it is the trend that matters.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    edited August 2015
    [/quote]

    Haha I understand. My problem is I'm massively impatient. When I want to do something, I often try to achieve it as quick as possible. It's probably my OCD getting the better of me. [/quote]

    Dont be..enjoy the ride
    Be proud of training your $$$$ off and eating as much as you can

    Be an example for others
    You will lose your weight because your determination and hard work

    Eating is just fuel, see it that way...Fuel your body and train...weigh all your food and log it...pre-plan
    And it will go faster than you can imagine

    I started 10 months ago
    105 pounds lighter now

    i started on 1200 and slowly upped it. Now around 1400 to 1600 and some days more
    I exercise 6 days a week for 300 to 350 calories


    10 months later and here i am....looking back...time flew by.
    believe me

    depriving your self will only result in hunger making it all hard and giving up for a lot of people
    Also gaining weight back because they want and have to eat.

    Just learn the good habits...you didnt gain this week in some weeks too.

    so work it and you will succeed!
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    evileen99 wrote: »

    skinny%20fat%202_zps6jbrxnwh.jpg

    Both of those look rubbish
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