A Cleanse to kick things of
purelyfe
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Hi, everyone!
Ok, so I lost about 50 pounds, 20 of which I gained back. The last 20 pounds were lost because I restricted my diet a lot. I binged like crazy for months, and I gained it back.
I'm addicted to sugar and I binge eat/ overeat frequently. I want to stop binging and change my lifestyle. Now I weigh 190 pounds, and I want to weigh 150, so that means I need to lose 50 more pounds.
I went to go see a nutritionist and she recommended that I do this cleanse called the SP Cleanse. I wanted to know if anyone has heard of it. Regardless, what do you all think about cleanses in general?
While weight loss is a very important part of why I want to do this cleanse, I also feel as if it would help me feel better overall and kick start my weight loss journey. She said that it will help with my binge eating disorder too, which is why I went to see her in the first place.
It's not like a juice cleanse or anything, it's kind of like eating a bunch of whole organic foods. The first week and a half you eat fruits, veggies, quinoa, some other grains, oils etc. and then you introduce lean meat protein towards the end of the diet. Throughout the whole cleanse you consume SP vitamin shakes and supplemental vitamins.
Do you think any weight I lose at the end of this cleanse will be sustainable? I feel like I can sustain a lifestyle of mostly fruits, whole grains, lean meats and vegetables. I'll eat processed food sparingly.
What do you all think about it? I know there is no need for a cleanse, because our bodies can do it on their own, but what about speeding up the process?
It will cost me around $250.00 without the organic foods I'd have to buy to go along with it. Do you think its worth it? IT should help with my sweet tooth.
Thanks for your help!
Ok, so I lost about 50 pounds, 20 of which I gained back. The last 20 pounds were lost because I restricted my diet a lot. I binged like crazy for months, and I gained it back.
I'm addicted to sugar and I binge eat/ overeat frequently. I want to stop binging and change my lifestyle. Now I weigh 190 pounds, and I want to weigh 150, so that means I need to lose 50 more pounds.
I went to go see a nutritionist and she recommended that I do this cleanse called the SP Cleanse. I wanted to know if anyone has heard of it. Regardless, what do you all think about cleanses in general?
While weight loss is a very important part of why I want to do this cleanse, I also feel as if it would help me feel better overall and kick start my weight loss journey. She said that it will help with my binge eating disorder too, which is why I went to see her in the first place.
It's not like a juice cleanse or anything, it's kind of like eating a bunch of whole organic foods. The first week and a half you eat fruits, veggies, quinoa, some other grains, oils etc. and then you introduce lean meat protein towards the end of the diet. Throughout the whole cleanse you consume SP vitamin shakes and supplemental vitamins.
Do you think any weight I lose at the end of this cleanse will be sustainable? I feel like I can sustain a lifestyle of mostly fruits, whole grains, lean meats and vegetables. I'll eat processed food sparingly.
What do you all think about it? I know there is no need for a cleanse, because our bodies can do it on their own, but what about speeding up the process?
It will cost me around $250.00 without the organic foods I'd have to buy to go along with it. Do you think its worth it? IT should help with my sweet tooth.
Thanks for your help!
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The only thing you need for weight loss is a calorie deficit. A cleanse won't do anything more if you're in that deficit.0
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No, it's not worth it. Save yourself some money and use MFP for free.0
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Your "nutritionist" wants to sell you snake oil. Fire her.
https://www.standardprocess.com/Products/Standard-Process/SP-Cleanse#.Vdklh3hqln8
If you have issues with certain "trigger" foods, work on that here. There are groups here that can help you work through your cravings. If you have true binging issues, a high priced cleanse won't cure them.
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It will cost me around $250.00 without the organic foods I'd have to buy to go along with it. Do you think its worth it? IT should help with my sweet tooth.
No. The only money that you should spend to lose weight should be at the grocery store, and maybe a food scale. Perhaps a gym membership and new clothes as your old clothes get too big.
That's it. $250 for a "cleanse" or any other weight loss product is absolutely not worth it. Save your money for something awesome.
*ETA: Eating organic foods over conventional foods will not give you any weight loss advantage, either. I'd save my money on those, too.
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Hi, everyone!
Ok, so I lost about 50 pounds, 20 of which I gained back. The last 20 pounds were lost because I restricted my diet a lot. I binged like crazy for months, and I gained it back.
I'm addicted to sugar and I binge eat/ overeat frequently. I want to stop binging and change my lifestyle. Now I weigh 190 pounds, and I want to weigh 150, so that means I need to lose 50 more pounds.
I went to go see a nutritionist and she recommended that I do this cleanse called the SP Cleanse. I wanted to know if anyone has heard of it. Regardless, what do you all think about cleanses in general?
While weight loss is a very important part of why I want to do this cleanse, I also feel as if it would help me feel better overall and kick start my weight loss journey. She said that it will help with my binge eating disorder too, which is why I went to see her in the first place.
It's not like a juice cleanse or anything, it's kind of like eating a bunch of whole organic foods. The first week and a half you eat fruits, veggies, quinoa, some other grains, oils etc. and then you introduce lean meat protein towards the end of the diet. Throughout the whole cleanse you consume SP vitamin shakes and supplemental vitamins.
Do you think any weight I lose at the end of this cleanse will be sustainable? I feel like I can sustain a lifestyle of mostly fruits, whole grains, lean meats and vegetables. I'll eat processed food sparingly.
What do you all think about it? I know there is no need for a cleanse, because our bodies can do it on their own, but what about speeding up the process?
It will cost me around $250.00 without the organic foods I'd have to buy to go along with it. Do you think its worth it? IT should help with my sweet tooth.
Thanks for your help!
A cleanse will not help your binge eating. If anything, highly restricting your food intake will result in more binges further down the track. A cleanse is not changing your lifestyle. You've already acknowledged that you want to do this. Frankly it's wildly irresponsible that she told you a cleanse will help with binge eating. For most people there is a psychological/behavioural component to binge eating - how will a cleanse address that?? If you want to address your binge eating I strongly suggest seeing a psychologist or licensed clinical social worker who specialises in eating disorders.
A cleanse will not 'speed up the process'.
A cleanse will not help your sweet tooth.
I don't know where you live but in many areas there are basically no educational requirements to be a nutritionist. It is NOT the same as a dietitian (which is a university degree). Anyone can pay for a few weeks of an online course and call themselves a nutritionist.0 -
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Listen to the advice of the previous posters. Save your money. Eat more vegetables and fibre if you like, but log the amounts and calories. Your bingeing was probably the result of restrictive eating. I personally don't believe in "cleanses" or "detox". I feel good when I eat within my calorie range and include vegetables and fruits. Good luck.0
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Is it just me or do we have ALL of the red flags in this one? Cleanse, addiction to sugar, organic and she can't do simple math....
Or am I just cynical?
Cleanses do nothing that your body doesn't do already. Don't fall for the snake oil!0 -
CharonCharon wrote: »Careful of people trying to sell you products and rip you off.
Drink 16 oz water with a tablespoon of lemon concentrate.
Take a women's multivitamin from walmart (equate brand).
Make sure you get enough protein daily (no shake needed).
I have a dumb cousin that falls for everything.
She ended up spending $3,000 at a metabolic weight loss center.
Gained it all back when she stopped.
This place works. Just stick with it.
This isn't necessary either. Drink water. Eat food. Get nutrition. Period.
OP, there is no speeding up or jump starting. You need to tighten up your calorie logging and eat at the deficit MFP gives you.0 -
CharonCharon wrote: »Careful of people trying to sell you products and rip you off.
Drink 16 oz water with a tablespoon of lemon concentrate.
Take a women's multivitamin from walmart (equate brand).
Make sure you get enough protein daily (no shake needed).
I have a dumb cousin that falls for everything.
She ended up spending $3,000 at a metabolic weight loss center.
Gained it all back when she stopped.
This place works. Just stick with it.
That's not necessary either.
Water, good nutrition, stay within your calories. Done.0 -
Cleanses and detoxes are not needed.0
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Hi everyone!
Thank you so much for your replies. I've read all of them, and I appreciate the feedback. I decided that I will NOT do the cleanse. It really is a waste of money. I'll just eat a cleaner diet and log EVERYTHING that I eat.
I think she was trying to shake me down for my money, which is sad because I really just needed help with my binge eating.
Thank you all so much! You're all life savers
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I would add find a good group or a challenge that sparks your interest. Slim down starts September 1st. I am doing a biggest loser and Insurgent. The internal competitiveness and not letting my teammates down keeps me on track!0
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Hi everyone!
Thank you so much for your replies. I've read all of them, and I appreciate the feedback. I decided that I will NOT do the cleanse. It really is a waste of money. I'll just eat a cleaner diet and log EVERYTHING that I eat.
I think she was trying to shake me down for my money, which is sad because I really just needed help with my binge eating.
Thank you all so much! You're all life savers
So pleased you saw through her . ......try a dietician not a nutritionist. ...a.dietician went to school got a degree and wants to help you shed pounds not spend them. Good luck with your journey.0 -
You would only need to lose 40 lbs to go from 190 to 150.
As for the cleanse, it is useless garbage. A cleanse does nothing. Change your eating habits, drink lots of water and exercise. There is nothing special to this whole thing. Don't fall for the money makers that give false promises.0 -
Hi, everyone!
Ok, so I lost about 50 pounds, 20 of which I gained back. The last 20 pounds were lost because I restricted my diet a lot. I binged like crazy for months, and I gained it back.
I'm addicted to sugar and I binge eat/ overeat frequently. I want to stop binging and change my lifestyle. Now I weigh 190 pounds, and I want to weigh 150, so that means I need to lose 50 more pounds.
I went to go see a nutritionist and she recommended that I do this cleanse called the SP Cleanse. I wanted to know if anyone has heard of it. Regardless, what do you all think about cleanses in general?
While weight loss is a very important part of why I want to do this cleanse, I also feel as if it would help me feel better overall and kick start my weight loss journey. She said that it will help with my binge eating disorder too, which is why I went to see her in the first place.
It's not like a juice cleanse or anything, it's kind of like eating a bunch of whole organic foods. The first week and a half you eat fruits, veggies, quinoa, some other grains, oils etc. and then you introduce lean meat protein towards the end of the diet. Throughout the whole cleanse you consume SP vitamin shakes and supplemental vitamins.
Do you think any weight I lose at the end of this cleanse will be sustainable? I feel like I can sustain a lifestyle of mostly fruits, whole grains, lean meats and vegetables. I'll eat processed food sparingly.
What do you all think about it? I know there is no need for a cleanse, because our bodies can do it on their own, but what about speeding up the process?
It will cost me around $250.00 without the organic foods I'd have to buy to go along with it. Do you think its worth it? IT should help with my sweet tooth.
Thanks for your help!
You definitely don't need it.
Some of these diets that promise fast results actually offer it by the dieter not getting proper nutrition and end up losing more lean mass than fat (that's not a good thing by the way). Lean mass weighs 5 times more than fat, but lean mass is: Bones, organs, connective tissue, etc, basically all the things we want to keep hold of.
Focus on a balanced diet (enough protein), get a reasonable calorie defect and just be a little more patient.
Remember: slow progress, is still progress.
Good luck and save your money.
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I know i'm repeating what others said, but please see a dietician, not a nutritionist.
You need no formal education to say you are a nutritionist. I thought it was funny the other day that I received an email to become a "Personal Nutritionist", through an online course, for only $39. Imagine that anyone can do such a "course" and then try and guide you on nutrition, with just the knowledge obtained in a $39 course.
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i did a 21 day cleanse. basically no sugar or sugar substitute or processed anything. it really helped get me off the cravings.0
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tennisdude2004 wrote: »You definitely don't need it.
Some of these diets that promise fast results actually offer it by the dieter not getting proper nutrition and end up losing more lean mass than fat (that's not a good thing by the way). Lean mass weighs 5 times more than fat, but lean mass is: Bones, organs, connective tissue, etc, basically all the things we want to keep hold of.
Focus on a balanced diet (enough protein), get a reasonable calorie defect and just be a little more patient.
Remember: slow progress, is still progress.
Good luck and save your money.
Haha no it doesn't! a kilo of lean mass weighs the same as a kilo of fat!
To the OP i'm pleased you've seen through the 'nutritionist's' BS and decided to go about it the correct way. I'm a firm believer in the theory that the MFP diet doesn't mean you need to only eat healthy. You will lose weight if your daily calorie intake is made up purely of full sugar coke and doughnuts but you'll feel rubbish! Eat everything you want and if you decide you need a daily sugar hit go for it just account for it somewhere else in your meal planning. Personally I need the sugar hit so will have either an extra healthy/low cal lunch or dinner to give myself the room to have a bit of my g/f's cake or a bit of chocolate etc.0 -
i did a 21 day cleanse. basically no sugar or sugar substitute or processed anything. it really helped get me off the cravings.
What you did is great and the right thing, but it is not a cleanse. It is just avoiding trigger foods that lead you to overeat.
I don't like anything sweet, but used to adore anything with starch. I gained almost 80 pounds with a lot of " selfpity eating " related to loss, cancer and other health problems.
I got fat on steamed rice ( no additives, just plain rice ), pasta and home baked bread by eating many times more than I should. Otherwise I always had a very healthy natural diet.
When I started out in April 2013 I completely quit rice, pasta and bread because I knew I could not deal with just one slice, or one portion. It was not a cleanse, but just avoiding foods that caused me trouble.
I lost 65 plus pounds with a .5 pound goal a week and now can eat pasta, rice and bread in correct portion sizes ( and less ) without any desire to eat more.
So maybe in a psychological sense my system was " cleaned " of the need to overeat on starch, but it definitely was not in the conventional sense of a " cleanse".
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Hi everyone!
Thank you so much for your replies. I've read all of them, and I appreciate the feedback. I decided that I will NOT do the cleanse. It really is a waste of money. I'll just eat a cleaner diet and log EVERYTHING that I eat.
I think she was trying to shake me down for my money, which is sad because I really just needed help with my binge eating.
Thank you all so much! You're all life savers
Glad to hear it! Yes, she was trying to shake you down for money. There is help out there for binge eating. Try a psychologist or LCSW who works with eating disorders and a dietitian. You can do it!0 -
The notion of a "cleanse" is a scam, pure and simple. Just eat naturally occurring foods, stay away as much as you can from manufactured food, stay hydrated with water, get your proper macros and your body will take care of itself.0
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i did a 21 day cleanse. basically no sugar or sugar substitute or processed anything. it really helped get me off the cravings.
That is not a cleanse. You just cut some sugar and some other foods out of your diet. If you drank milk or ate any frozen food or bread, you still ate processed food. If you ate fruit, you still ate sugar too. So, basically you didn't do anything!0 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »You definitely don't need it.
Some of these diets that promise fast results actually offer it by the dieter not getting proper nutrition and end up losing more lean mass than fat (that's not a good thing by the way). Lean mass weighs 5 times more than fat, but lean mass is: Bones, organs, connective tissue, etc, basically all the things we want to keep hold of.
Focus on a balanced diet (enough protein), get a reasonable calorie defect and just be a little more patient.
Remember: slow progress, is still progress.
Good luck and save your money.
]Haha no it doesn't! a kilo of lean mass weighs the same as a kilo of fat!
To the OP i'm pleased you've seen through the 'nutritionist's' BS and decided to go about it the correct way. I'm a firm believer in the theory that the MFP diet doesn't mean you need to only eat healthy. You will lose weight if your daily calorie intake is made up purely of full sugar coke and doughnuts but you'll feel rubbish! Eat everything you want and if you decide you need a daily sugar hit go for it just account for it somewhere else in your meal planning. Personally I need the sugar hit so will have either an extra healthy/low cal lunch or dinner to give myself the room to have a bit of my g/f's cake or a bit of chocolate etc.
Did you really just say that?
Feathers weigh the same as steel then - A kilo of feathers weighs the same as a kilo of steel.
3500 calories burns 1 lb of fat
3500 calories burns 4.8lb of lean mass
Better!!!!!
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tennisdude2004 wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »You definitely don't need it.
Some of these diets that promise fast results actually offer it by the dieter not getting proper nutrition and end up losing more lean mass than fat (that's not a good thing by the way). Lean mass weighs 5 times more than fat, but lean mass is: Bones, organs, connective tissue, etc, basically all the things we want to keep hold of.
Focus on a balanced diet (enough protein), get a reasonable calorie defect and just be a little more patient.
Remember: slow progress, is still progress.
Good luck and save your money.
]Haha no it doesn't! a kilo of lean mass weighs the same as a kilo of fat!
To the OP i'm pleased you've seen through the 'nutritionist's' BS and decided to go about it the correct way. I'm a firm believer in the theory that the MFP diet doesn't mean you need to only eat healthy. You will lose weight if your daily calorie intake is made up purely of full sugar coke and doughnuts but you'll feel rubbish! Eat everything you want and if you decide you need a daily sugar hit go for it just account for it somewhere else in your meal planning. Personally I need the sugar hit so will have either an extra healthy/low cal lunch or dinner to give myself the room to have a bit of my g/f's cake or a bit of chocolate etc.
Did you really just say that?
Feathers weigh the same as steal then - A kilo of feathers weighs the same as a kilo of steal.
3500 calories burns 1 lb of fat
3500 calories burns 4.8lb of lean mass
Better!!!!!
Pretty sure you meant 'steel'. Unless you're robbing someone?
But ultimately yes, a pound is a pound just like a calorie is a calorie. But your original post said that lean mass weighs more than fat, without qualify any amount, leaving you open for exactly this kind of remark.
Your calorie burn equation also forgets to mention that during exercise, fat is targeted first for burning.0 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »You definitely don't need it.
Some of these diets that promise fast results actually offer it by the dieter not getting proper nutrition and end up losing more lean mass than fat (that's not a good thing by the way). Lean mass weighs 5 times more than fat, but lean mass is: Bones, organs, connective tissue, etc, basically all the things we want to keep hold of.
Focus on a balanced diet (enough protein), get a reasonable calorie defect and just be a little more patient.
Remember: slow progress, is still progress.
Good luck and save your money.
]Haha no it doesn't! a kilo of lean mass weighs the same as a kilo of fat!
To the OP i'm pleased you've seen through the 'nutritionist's' BS and decided to go about it the correct way. I'm a firm believer in the theory that the MFP diet doesn't mean you need to only eat healthy. You will lose weight if your daily calorie intake is made up purely of full sugar coke and doughnuts but you'll feel rubbish! Eat everything you want and if you decide you need a daily sugar hit go for it just account for it somewhere else in your meal planning. Personally I need the sugar hit so will have either an extra healthy/low cal lunch or dinner to give myself the room to have a bit of my g/f's cake or a bit of chocolate etc.
Did you really just say that?
Feathers weigh the same as steal then - A kilo of feathers weighs the same as a kilo of steal.
3500 calories burns 1 lb of fat
3500 calories burns 4.8lb of lean mass
Better!!!!!
Pretty sure you meant 'steel'. Unless you're robbing someone?
But ultimately yes, a pound is a pound just like a calorie is a calorie. But your original post said that lean mass weighs more than fat, without qualify any amount, leaving you open for exactly this kind of remark.
Your calorie burn equation also forgets to mention that during exercise, fat is targeted first for burning.
Yes I did mean steel (amended)
In the absence of adequate protein the cortisol surging through the body will strip away lean mass to convert into glycogen (which is my point of being wary of certain diets).
Regards being open for 'this kind of remark'. We will always be open from 'this kind of remark' from ignorant or pedantic people.
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Just to let everyone know a cleanse is not a waste it is something that should be done. Before starting a clean eating or eating healthier regimen you should do a cleanse. Reason being our bodies get boggled down with holding onto unhealthy toxins we have put in our bodies through processed foods by preservatives and additives to foods. And use of over the counter medications just for examples. Anyway they completely show down your metabolism and make all your organs sluggish so they are not functioning at their full potential. Therfore if you do a cleanse it will clear out all that junk and reset your system to function which will make losing weight easier. You don't have to do a expensive cleanse even doing a 5 day cleanse along with a strick cleanse diet can do this. You can email me if you need help arnitacombs@yahoo.com
Selling snake oil again? Haven't you heard the news, cleanses are crap. LOL0 -
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tennisdude2004 wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »You definitely don't need it.
Some of these diets that promise fast results actually offer it by the dieter not getting proper nutrition and end up losing more lean mass than fat (that's not a good thing by the way). Lean mass weighs 5 times more than fat, but lean mass is: Bones, organs, connective tissue, etc, basically all the things we want to keep hold of.
Focus on a balanced diet (enough protein), get a reasonable calorie defect and just be a little more patient.
Remember: slow progress, is still progress.
Good luck and save your money.
]Haha no it doesn't! a kilo of lean mass weighs the same as a kilo of fat!
To the OP i'm pleased you've seen through the 'nutritionist's' BS and decided to go about it the correct way. I'm a firm believer in the theory that the MFP diet doesn't mean you need to only eat healthy. You will lose weight if your daily calorie intake is made up purely of full sugar coke and doughnuts but you'll feel rubbish! Eat everything you want and if you decide you need a daily sugar hit go for it just account for it somewhere else in your meal planning. Personally I need the sugar hit so will have either an extra healthy/low cal lunch or dinner to give myself the room to have a bit of my g/f's cake or a bit of chocolate etc.
Did you really just say that?
Feathers weigh the same as steel then - A kilo of feathers weighs the same as a kilo of steel.
3500 calories burns 1 lb of fat
3500 calories burns 4.8lb of lean mass
Citation needed
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