Diets!
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leannehayes1988bcc39cf wrote: »Don't really wonna be making loads of different foods separate for me, separate for my child so need it family friendly
Then ... definitely ... CICO.
Calories In < Calories Out
Eat whatever you want to eat as long as the total calories you consume is less than the total calories you burn.
This means that you can make healthy well-balanced meals, and all it comes down to is how much of it you eat.
And yes ... the food scale is an important piece of equipment.
This statement is rubbish.
you're wrong
Don't follow a diet. Just limit / cut added sugar (sugar from fruit is fine) and use whole / un-processed foods in your cooking.
bad, unneccessary advice
Examples would be to cook with fresh veggies, olive oils / coconut oils not magic foods lean meats (chicken, fish and beef) etc... Add herbs and spices to your taste and enjoy. You aren't really on a diet and by eating real food, you will be able to listen to your body and eat within your means.
real foods, I can get behind that...don't eat your kid's playdoh or plastic toy foods
Listening to the advice of everyone posting
doesn't fully understand what they are saying. there is someone who doesn't understand, unfortunately it's youCICO
By using this logic you could just drink all your calories from soda / soft drinks and as long as you meet or are below your CICO as they say you will be fine.
nobody has ever said that ...nobody is ever going to do that, people understand the premise of eating nutritiously but just not your stupid, arbitrary rules
This isn't the case. Your body doesn't metabolize added sugars the same as whole wheat, proteins or sugars from fruit. In fact if you have too much sugar you get an insulin spike which your liver trigers to convert all sugars into fat because it can't cope with the amount.
you're so wrong, it's laughable, unless we are talking about diabetics or those with diagnosed insulin conditions
As long as your food doesn't come from a packet, you are preparing it yourself using good cooking techniques (steaming / grilling / little olive oil), using whole foods (whole wheat flour vs white flour) and choosing a well balanced diet of protein, fats and carbs you should be good. It won't feel like a diet if you eat foods that you prepare and like
arbitrary rules are arbitrary
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this person doesn't know much...ignore them0 -
AlexisUPenn wrote: »
You seem to be the only one here that actually has any clue. Good link.
Authority nutrition is a laughable source0 -
leannehayes1988bcc39cf wrote: »Don't really wonna be making loads of different foods separate for me, separate for my child so need it family friendly
Then ... definitely ... CICO.
Calories In < Calories Out
Eat whatever you want to eat as long as the total calories you consume is less than the total calories you burn.
This means that you can make healthy well-balanced meals, and all it comes down to is how much of it you eat.
And yes ... the food scale is an important piece of equipment.
This statement is rubbish.
you're wrong
Don't follow a diet. Just limit / cut added sugar (sugar from fruit is fine) and use whole / un-processed foods in your cooking.
bad, unneccessary advice
Examples would be to cook with fresh veggies, olive oils / coconut oils not magic foods lean meats (chicken, fish and beef) etc... Add herbs and spices to your taste and enjoy. You aren't really on a diet and by eating real food, you will be able to listen to your body and eat within your means.
real foods, I can get behind that...don't eat your kid's playdoh or plastic toy foods
Listening to the advice of everyone posting
doesn't fully understand what they are saying. there is someone who doesn't understand, unfortunately it's youCICO
By using this logic you could just drink all your calories from soda / soft drinks and as long as you meet or are below your CICO as they say you will be fine.
nobody has ever said that ...nobody is ever going to do that, people understand the premise of eating nutritiously but just not your stupid, arbitrary rules
This isn't the case. Your body doesn't metabolize added sugars the same as whole wheat, proteins or sugars from fruit. In fact if you have too much sugar you get an insulin spike which your liver trigers to convert all sugars into fat because it can't cope with the amount.
you're so wrong, it's laughable, unless we are talking about diabetics or those with diagnosed insulin conditions
As long as your food doesn't come from a packet, you are preparing it yourself using good cooking techniques (steaming / grilling / little olive oil), using whole foods (whole wheat flour vs white flour) and choosing a well balanced diet of protein, fats and carbs you should be good. It won't feel like a diet if you eat foods that you prepare and like
arbitrary rules are arbitrary
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this person doesn't know much...ignore them
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Your child needs different levels of protein/fats/carbs/cals than you do, so please bear that in mind. In fact, forget measuring anything for your 6 year old. Your child is too young to be on a regimented 'Diet'. What you need to do is show good habits by setting an example.
"Look at those yummy peas on your plate!! I bet you can't eat them all up like a big boy/girl!! Mummy is going to eat hers right now!!".
Keep it simple. Nothing drastic needs to happen. You just need to cook better foods. Chicken can be jazzed up so it's child friendly - as can almost any food. They don't have to eat junk because they are kids and that's all they like. You are in control here so use your common sense
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PinkPixiexox wrote: »Your child needs different levels of protein/fats/carbs/cals than you do, so please bear that in mind. In fact, forget measuring anything for your 6 year old. Your child is too young to be on a regimented 'Diet'. What you need to do is show good habits by setting an example.
"Look at those yummy peas on your plate!! I bet you can't eat them all up like a big boy/girl!! Mummy is going to eat hers right now!!".
Keep it simple. Nothing drastic needs to happen. You just need to cook better foods. Chicken can be jazzed up so it's child friendly - as can almost any food. They don't have to eat junk because they are kids and that's all they like. You are in control here so use your common sense
Yeh that's what I intend to do just show good habits through my healthier eating0 -
Thanks for all ur help and advice guys0
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If sugar doesn't matter than why would Harvard suggest limiting refined grains? CICO is one part of the weight loss equation.0
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AlexisUPenn wrote: »
You seem to be the only one here that actually has any clue. Good link.
I've had a lot of practice and failures with just the CICO alone. I found what works for me and I believe that there's more to it than a calorie deficit. I am amazed at how controversial this issue is on here.
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Clean eating is all you need. Fruits veggies lean meats nuts and whole grains. Stay away for prepackaged "100 calorie snacks" they are disguised junk foods. Also read labels and make sure you are checking its portion sizes. Enjoy things you like once in awhile in moderation and use MFP
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I think it's great that you want to lose weight and teach your child healthy habits. It's a lot easier for people to eat well as adults when their parents started them out in life as healthy eaters!
I don't think you need to worry about your fat, carbs or proteins being low, just eat as healthy as you can. Personally, I stay low on fat, but for people who don't need to do that, including healthy fats in the diet isn't a problem!
Read up on nutrition and eating healthy and then just make foods you like that fit the plan.
Seriously - good for you!0 -
i limit caloric beverages, like soda and juice, and encourage my kids to drink water instead. I serve fruit/veggies everyday, serve normal kid sized portions,and we eat at regular set mealtimes vs all day snacking. That is what I do with my kids, for their overall health.
in addition to the above, I also log what I eat on myfitnesspal, and try to focus on protein and veggies for my meals.0 -
I think the best diet is to focus on your health first and calories second. What I mean is don't overeat, but eat a healthy balanced diet. Balance your protein, carbs and fat. Eat plenty of plant foods. Allow for treats. Enjoy your food and your health. This is likely to make getting to and maintaining a healthy weight easier, and it will teach your child good eating habits.0
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CICO is the only part of the weight loss equation. The weight loss equation isn't the only equation.AlexisUPenn wrote: »If sugar doesn't matter than why would Harvard suggest limiting refined grains? CICO is one part of the weight loss equation.
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leannehayes1988bcc39cf wrote: »Don't really wonna be making loads of different foods separate for me, separate for my child so need it family friendly
Then ... definitely ... CICO.
Calories In < Calories Out
Eat whatever you want to eat as long as the total calories you consume is less than the total calories you burn.
This means that you can make healthy well-balanced meals, and all it comes down to is how much of it you eat.
And yes ... the food scale is an important piece of equipment.
This statement is rubbish.
you're wrong
Don't follow a diet. Just limit / cut added sugar (sugar from fruit is fine) and use whole / un-processed foods in your cooking.
bad, unneccessary advice
Examples would be to cook with fresh veggies, olive oils / coconut oils not magic foods lean meats (chicken, fish and beef) etc... Add herbs and spices to your taste and enjoy. You aren't really on a diet and by eating real food, you will be able to listen to your body and eat within your means.
real foods, I can get behind that...don't eat your kid's playdoh or plastic toy foods
Listening to the advice of everyone posting
doesn't fully understand what they are saying. there is someone who doesn't understand, unfortunately it's youCICO
By using this logic you could just drink all your calories from soda / soft drinks and as long as you meet or are below your CICO as they say you will be fine.
nobody has ever said that ...nobody is ever going to do that, people understand the premise of eating nutritiously but just not your stupid, arbitrary rules
This isn't the case. Your body doesn't metabolize added sugars the same as whole wheat, proteins or sugars from fruit. In fact if you have too much sugar you get an insulin spike which your liver trigers to convert all sugars into fat because it can't cope with the amount.
you're so wrong, it's laughable, unless we are talking about diabetics or those with diagnosed insulin conditions
As long as your food doesn't come from a packet, you are preparing it yourself using good cooking techniques (steaming / grilling / little olive oil), using whole foods (whole wheat flour vs white flour) and choosing a well balanced diet of protein, fats and carbs you should be good. It won't feel like a diet if you eat foods that you prepare and like
arbitrary rules are arbitrary
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this person doesn't know much...ignore them
Bravo!
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http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/this-is-your-brain-on-sugar-ucla-233992
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1829363/
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/3/651.full
http://foodaddictioninstitute.org/scientific-research/physical-craving-and-food-addiction-a-scientific-review/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120515150938.htm0 -
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/this-is-your-brain-on-sugar-ucla-233992
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1829363/
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/3/651.full
http://foodaddictioninstitute.org/scientific-research/physical-craving-and-food-addiction-a-scientific-review/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120515150938.htm
"Soft drink intake also was associated with lower intakes of milk, calcium, and other nutrients and with an increased risk of several medical problems (e.g., diabetes)."
One would hope that your other links aren't as useless as that one, but I suspect they are.0 -
Ignore what @i6Shot said and listen to the CICO folks for weight loss. You can feed a balanced nutritious meal to your child and eat along with them just in measured portions.
For nutrition, lots of fruits and vegetables and whole grains more often. Most national food plans describe a balanced plate to describe how much of each food type should be on the plate.
I kept the Canada Food Guide posted on my fridge, did not deprive my children of anything they wanted to eat, though snacking had to stop before supper. I didn't push or deny food at the table. I controlled what they ate by what I brought in to the house. Keep out a bowl of inviting fresh fruit and update it regularly. I brainstormed ways to make vegetables more attractive, including Cheez Whiz and Ranch dips. If they liked raw, I served raw. Both my children grew up to be normal weight.0 -
I think the healthy eating plate linked above is a good place to start. Make 1/2 the plate fruit and/or veggies, 1/4 protein, 1/4 carb. Some meals have each component separate, and sometimes mixed together like a stir fry or casserole. If you have never cooked this way, check out healthy food blogs or magazine websites (I like eatingwell.com and cookinglight.com) to get some recipes and inspiration. Like others said, you can really eat what you want, weight loss comes down to CICO. But eating more veggies and lean protein will help you stay full on fewer calories and is important for health. If I ate predominately "junk food" it would be hard to stay in my calories without being very hungry. But a little ice cream is not going to hurt your weight loss - just fit it in your calories.
As far preventing obesity in your child, the best thing you can do is model good eating behavior for them. Restricting their food will only set them up for their own eating issues such as sneaking food and binging at friends' houses. Given them a variety of healthy options along with foods you know they like and will eat. They are not going to eat 100% healthy from day one, or even year one so give them time. Serve whatever the adults are eating for dinner and encourage them to taste and "investigate" new foods. Let them help with preparation and buying veggies so they feel more invested in the meal. And keep healthy snack options around that are as easy to grab and go as a bag of chips (precut fruit, etc.)
This is what I do with my kids and my daughter is slowly becoming a foodie. She loves picking out recipes to try in a magazine or cookbook (helps when there are pictures) and helps with preparation. My son on the other hand is still very picky, but there are a few meals he enjoys and he is slowly trying new things. I always put a few things I know he likes on his plate (like yogurt and fruit) so that he doesn't starve if it is not his favorite meal.0 -
Fill your pantry and fridge with all the foods that you know wont lead to triggering a binge like cookies. I get "boring" food on purpose cos I know if I get my favourite packet of shortbread, I'll probably go nuts and eat the whole lot. Please dont give child soft drinks or sodas. Save these things for special occasions only for when you go out. Good luck, hope you find the right plan 0
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All diets all seem to work for some people some of the time. Thanks to Google one can get the skinny on about any diet today.0
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GaleHawkins wrote: »All diets all seem to work for some people some of the time. Thanks to Google one can get the skinny on about any diet today.
Did you even bother reading the OP?0 -
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/this-is-your-brain-on-sugar-ucla-233992
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1829363/
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/3/651.full
http://foodaddictioninstitute.org/scientific-research/physical-craving-and-food-addiction-a-scientific-review/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120515150938.htm
Lol.0 -
You've gotten some great advice here, OP. No reason to go on a "diet," all you have to do is eat less of what you ate before and add some veggies if you need to.
A variety of veggies is especially important for children to help their tastes develop. But restricting your child from all treats or telling him/her that there are "good" and "bad" foods will set them up for difficulties later on. Learn to balance everything and make sure you're fitting all of your food into your calorie goal.
I agree with what a previous poster said - buying a food scale is one of the most important things you can do to track your intake.0 -
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/this-is-your-brain-on-sugar-ucla-233992
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1829363/
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/3/651.full
http://foodaddictioninstitute.org/scientific-research/physical-craving-and-food-addiction-a-scientific-review/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120515150938.htm
lol omg I'm dying. I started reading one article and gave up. This isn't helping your cause.
You know why drinking sodas can help lead to obesity? Because sodas are empty calories. A calorie is a calorie. Period. But when you're drinking a ton of soda, like 9.9 times out of 10 (ok so that number is slightly arbitrary but whatever) you're not also cutting back on other foods. Which means you'd need to expend more calories to maintain your weight. Never mind losing in that situation. Which is why cutting back on sodas (or cutting them out) can help with weight loss. You're cutting calories without feeling like you're starving yourself.
Very simply, as long as you're burning more than you're taking in, YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT. It is possible for someone to eat too little, which can sabotage weight loss goals, but that has nothing to do with sugar. It has to do with the fact that you're not giving your body what it needs, so it's going to the bare minimum for function.
Sorry if this is all over the place. My head is killing me and my concentration is shot right now.0 -
It is a good idea to avoid sugared soft drinks. Some of them have a lot of calories. I don't think anyone here said that the OP should live on a diet of sugared soft drinks, but then I didn't read every post in great detail.
For me personally, I find it beneficial to avoid drinks with calories. I prefer not to drink my calories at all. I'd rather "spend" my calories on food.
However, if I had a child, I would probably serve my child milk and pure, unsweetened fruit juice in addition to water.0 -
AlexisUPenn wrote: »AlexisUPenn wrote: »
You seem to be the only one here that actually has any clue. Good link.
I've had a lot of practice and failures with just the CICO alone. I found what works for me and I believe that there's more to it than a calorie deficit. I am amazed at how controversial this issue is on here.
I'm amazed that you haven't figured out yet that CICO is what works. No matter what is working for you, it's working because your calorie intake is less than your calorie burn. Your failures were due to eating more calories than you were burning.0 -
A good balanced nutritious diet in the right calorie range is all you need.
Feed your body and your growing little person what they need
You add a little exercise and it just magically happens.
It isn't complicated at all really0 -
Leanneyounique88 wrote: »Hi all iv just started my weight loss journey and would like some ideas on diets which is ur best diet, low fat, low carb, meat free, clean eating..... im looking for a diet that I can introduce to my 6 years old so nothing to extreme thanks guys x
I personally cut back on sugary (sugary/fat) junk food products, focusing on getting my carbs mainly (but not exclusively) from veggies and a reasonable, but not excessive amount of fruit.
For me that's the easiest way to reduce calories without losing micro nutrients. You don't have to cut out all heavily processed foods but reducing them would help. For me that includes whole grain products (they offer nothing that you cannot get from other more healthy sources (i.e fruit and veg).
As people above have said, weight loss is as easy as eating in a calorie deficit (getting into a calorie deficit for millions of people is the hard bit).
You could go down the route of just eating everything you want but restrict the portion size (AKA moderation).
A lot of people, probably most that have passed through this web site, either successfully or unsuccessfully (the latter is probably true) have struggled with this concept.
The truth is getting into a calorie deficit is hard and you need to find a mental tool which will help you get there. Everyone if different, what works for me may not work for you.
You've just got to try different things until you find what fits, give everything you try at least a month.
In regards to your child, I wouldn't change things up too much. Just aim for healthier choices with a few less less-healthy treats. Be mindful of the food they eat elsewhere, if they have grandparents like my 6 year old does, they will be filling up on enough less-healthy food than they really need.
Also remember they are 6 and as their parent it is your job to choose the healthiest diet for them.
Burning up a few extra calories will help, do some fun stuff outside with your child (Frisbee, catch, football, just exploring the garden or walking in the local park) anything to get you both moving and burning calories.
Good luck.0
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