No loss :(

avilancaster871
avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
edited November 24 in Health and Weight Loss
hey all this is my 13th day... I had my weight in this morning and Havnt lost a single pound stayed exactly the same?? Yes I weigh all my food before anyone asks lol I eat my suggest 1200 cals a day plus around half of my burnt cals sometimes all depends on how my day has been. Just confused at why I havnt lost anything? I understand it's a slow process but thought I would of lost something as before this diet I was drinking fizzy all day and eating crisps and crap constantly ... I havnt touched anything like that in the 13 days Iv been on this diet? Bit gutted and disheartened tbh x
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  • PinkPixiexox
    PinkPixiexox Posts: 4,142 Member
    I would say give it time, but honestly speaking - if you've been eating at a sensible deficit and working out for almost two weeks, you 'should' have lost a couple of pounds at least. Saying that, everyone is different and every one loses at their own pace. Women in particular can 'hold on to weight' at certain times of the month. I'd say, if you're logging 100% accurately and exercising regularly, keep at it and be patient. Good luck :]
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Soon a flow chart will appear in this thread explaining a lot. Until then, how are you determining your caloric burns? Are you sure the database entries you're using are the most accurate ones?

    You say you understand it is a slow process while starting a thread about not losing soon enough. Patience is key.
  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    I weigh my food On digital scales and log everything accurately ? I try work out everyday if it be walking or cross trainer ect I log my exercise and I eat anywhere between half and full burnt cals depends on my day? Will keep it at it just don't understand why have not lost x
  • PinkPixiexox
    PinkPixiexox Posts: 4,142 Member
    You sound like you're doing fine, so continue as you are and give it another week - you may surprise yourself :]
  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    Soon a flow chart will appear in this thread explaining a lot. Until then, how are you determining your caloric burns? Are you sure the database entries you're using are the most accurate ones?

    You say you understand it is a slow process while starting a thread about not losing soon enough. Patience is key.

    I do understand it slow but I started this thread as most people do loose after 13 days even if it's only 1lb! Lol and atm I am using mfp to calculate burnt cals but I have got a hrm on the way so once I receive that I will be using that to calculate my burnt cals....
  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    You sound like you're doing fine, so continue as you are and give it another week - you may surprise yourself :]

    I hope so lol will carry on and see what happens
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    I weigh my food On digital scales and log everything accurately ? I try work out everyday if it be walking or cross trainer ect I log my exercise and I eat anywhere between half and full burnt cals depends on my day? Will keep it at it just don't understand why have not lost x

    It could be where you are in your monthly cycle which can cause weight variances. It could be water retention from normal bodily processes. It could be eating too much back from inaccurate caloric burn estimates ... many machines overestimate, many HRMs report gross rather than net calories burned and can be inaccurate as well. It could be you've selected some user created entries from the database that are wrong (there are a lot of them).
  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    I weigh my food On digital scales and log everything accurately ? I try work out everyday if it be walking or cross trainer ect I log my exercise and I eat anywhere between half and full burnt cals depends on my day? Will keep it at it just don't understand why have not lost x

    It could be where you are in your monthly cycle which can cause weight variances. It could be water retention from normal bodily processes. It could be eating too much back from inaccurate caloric burn estimates ... many machines overestimate, many HRMs report gross rather than net calories burned and can be inaccurate as well. It could be you've selected some user created entries from the database that are wrong (there are a lot of them).

    I always scan my food and weigh it rather then using other people's entries, I have heard mfp over calculates burnt hense why got a hrm on the way as I have heard there are more accurate :) il just have to stick with it and see what happens
  • anneuhbanana
    anneuhbanana Posts: 17 Member
    Maybe try not eating all your calories burnt back, I usually see people saying to only eat half.
  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    I do try stick to only eating half but there t some days I land up eating most depending on what I have for my dinner but I agree I do try keep half unused lol x
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Open diary ? (Settings, scroll down to bottom left set to Public)
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    HRMs are not necessarily more accurate for caloric estimation. They count heart beats then use that number for a proxy in a formula. They are not accurate for estimating burns from low intensity activity like normal walking ... they are not accurate for intervals. They do o.k. for things like steady state running and rowing ... but still not truly accurate. It is difficult to accurately calculate caloric burn for a lot of activities.

    Scanning doesn't necessarily mean an accurate entry in the MFP database. MFP has an extensive database of foods which has some accurate entries and some that are way out there. Labels have acceptable variances ... weight of meats changes when they cook ... fruits come in different sizes. Double check your entries with what the FDA shows for the nutritional values per gram (or 100 grams) of what you're eating.

    A start point for figuring out net calories from walking is .3 x weight in pounds x distance in miles. As with all formulas online, it is based on averages but it gives you a start point to adjust from. Burning 100 net calories from walking one mile requires that a person weigh over 300 pounds ... unfortunately 100 cals per mile is often used as a "rule of thumb" although the studies don't support it. Something that simple can cause issues when trying to generate and maintain a deficit.

    You're still early in your loss. Take the time and ensure you have your intake accurately logged. Don't blindly trust a MFP database entry. Then reevaluate your exercise burns. It is easy to accidentally overestimate them ... machines, HRMs, and MFP all do in some cases. Adjust as necessary.
  • ajgordo150
    ajgordo150 Posts: 79 Member
    If you're eating bread stop for a while,and see what happens
  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
    Eating or not eating bread has nothing to do with weight loss.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    ajgordo150 wrote: »
    If you're eating bread stop for a while,and see what happens

    Bread, or the lack of it, is not a factor in fat loss.
  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    yarwell wrote: »
    Open diary ? (Settings, scroll down to bottom left set to Public)

    My diary is public to my friends :)
  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    HRMs are not necessarily more accurate for caloric estimation. They count heart beats then use that number for a proxy in a formula. They are not accurate for estimating burns from low intensity activity like normal walking ... they are not accurate for intervals. They do o.k. for things like steady state running and rowing ... but still not truly accurate. It is difficult to accurately calculate caloric burn for a lot of activities.

    Scanning doesn't necessarily mean an accurate entry in the MFP database. MFP has an extensive database of foods which has some accurate entries and some that are way out there. Labels have acceptable variances ... weight of meats changes when they cook ... fruits come in different sizes. Double check your entries with what the FDA shows for the nutritional values per gram (or 100 grams) of what you're eating.

    A start point for figuring out net calories from walking is .3 x weight in pounds x distance in miles. As with all formulas online, it is based on averages but it gives you a start point to adjust from. Burning 100 net calories from walking one mile requires that a person weigh over 300 pounds ... unfortunately 100 cals per mile is often used as a "rule of thumb" although the studies don't support it. Something that simple can cause issues when trying to generate and maintain a deficit.

    You're still early in your loss. Take the time and ensure you have your intake accurately logged. Don't blindly trust a MFP database entry. Then reevaluate your exercise burns. It is easy to accidentally overestimate them ... machines, HRMs, and MFP all do in some cases. Adjust as necessary.

    I read the labels on all my food and weigh everything that needs weight... I weigh my meat raw ect i no my food input is accurate and correct! I no machines and mfp ect over estimate burnt cals that's why I tend to only eat around half of mine back to contemplate the over exaggeration
  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    ajgordo150 wrote: »
    If you're eating bread stop for a while,and see what happens

    I don't think I need to cut out a certain food group to loose weight .... I should be able to loose eating all within moderation
  • suruda
    suruda Posts: 1,233 Member
    my daughter started this summer and had the same thing happen...no loss for the first couple of weeks and then a 5 lb drop. Hang in there, if you are truly doing everything right, it will come off.

    I know there is always an argument on here regarding what you eat but for me, it does help to shake things up. The scale starts moving when I cut down carbs even if my total calories don't change. I just will cut out bread, pasta, rice, white potatoes and get the majority of my calories from lean proteins, fruits, veggies and healthy fats and limited dairy. that works best for me!
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    OP, it sounds like you know what you're doing. I personally don't lose anything until a good two weeks or more after being on a deficit, so patience can sometimes be key (I know it's hard). Also, if you're about to get your period or you're ovulating, you could definitely be holding water weight and masking a loss. Just keep chugging along.

    If you do feel comfortable opening your diary, even just for a little bit, perhaps we can spot something.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    HRMs are not necessarily more accurate for caloric estimation. They count heart beats then use that number for a proxy in a formula. They are not accurate for estimating burns from low intensity activity like normal walking ... they are not accurate for intervals. They do o.k. for things like steady state running and rowing ... but still not truly accurate. It is difficult to accurately calculate caloric burn for a lot of activities.

    Scanning doesn't necessarily mean an accurate entry in the MFP database. MFP has an extensive database of foods which has some accurate entries and some that are way out there. Labels have acceptable variances ... weight of meats changes when they cook ... fruits come in different sizes. Double check your entries with what the FDA shows for the nutritional values per gram (or 100 grams) of what you're eating.

    A start point for figuring out net calories from walking is .3 x weight in pounds x distance in miles. As with all formulas online, it is based on averages but it gives you a start point to adjust from. Burning 100 net calories from walking one mile requires that a person weigh over 300 pounds ... unfortunately 100 cals per mile is often used as a "rule of thumb" although the studies don't support it. Something that simple can cause issues when trying to generate and maintain a deficit.

    You're still early in your loss. Take the time and ensure you have your intake accurately logged. Don't blindly trust a MFP database entry. Then reevaluate your exercise burns. It is easy to accidentally overestimate them ... machines, HRMs, and MFP all do in some cases. Adjust as necessary.

    I read the labels on all my food and weigh everything that needs weight... I weigh my meat raw ect i no my food input is accurate and correct! I no machines and mfp ect over estimate burnt cals that's why I tend to only eat around half of mine back to contemplate the over exaggeration

    Do you weigh everything or only things you think needs weight?
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    suruda wrote: »
    my daughter started this summer and had the same thing happen...no loss for the first couple of weeks and then a 5 lb drop. Hang in there, if you are truly doing everything right, it will come off.

    I know there is always an argument on here regarding what you eat but for me, it does help to shake things up. The scale starts moving when I cut down carbs even if my total calories don't change. I just will cut out bread, pasta, rice, white potatoes and get the majority of my calories from lean proteins, fruits, veggies and healthy fats and limited dairy. that works best for me!

    Carb depletion results in the loss of water weight ... that's it. Each gram of stored glycogen is accompanied by approximately three grams of stored water.
  • HealthyGinny
    HealthyGinny Posts: 821 Member
    I weigh my food On digital scales and log everything accurately ? I try work out everyday if it be walking or cross trainer ect I log my exercise and I eat anywhere between half and full burnt cals depends on my day? Will keep it at it just don't understand why have not lost x

    I'd say like everyone - give it more time, it will happens.
    But also, I'd include one or two rest days a week.
    Also, do you drink enough water? and eat enough fiber... Maybe TMI, but do you go to the toilet reglarly? Also, maybe you're soon to have your period? I know that for me, at least a week before TOM, I actually gain weight...

    Good luck :)

  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    HRMs are not necessarily more accurate for caloric estimation. They count heart beats then use that number for a proxy in a formula. They are not accurate for estimating burns from low intensity activity like normal walking ... they are not accurate for intervals. They do o.k. for things like steady state running and rowing ... but still not truly accurate. It is difficult to accurately calculate caloric burn for a lot of activities.

    Scanning doesn't necessarily mean an accurate entry in the MFP database. MFP has an extensive database of foods which has some accurate entries and some that are way out there. Labels have acceptable variances ... weight of meats changes when they cook ... fruits come in different sizes. Double check your entries with what the FDA shows for the nutritional values per gram (or 100 grams) of what you're eating.

    A start point for figuring out net calories from walking is .3 x weight in pounds x distance in miles. As with all formulas online, it is based on averages but it gives you a start point to adjust from. Burning 100 net calories from walking one mile requires that a person weigh over 300 pounds ... unfortunately 100 cals per mile is often used as a "rule of thumb" although the studies don't support it. Something that simple can cause issues when trying to generate and maintain a deficit.

    You're still early in your loss. Take the time and ensure you have your intake accurately logged. Don't blindly trust a MFP database entry. Then reevaluate your exercise burns. It is easy to accidentally overestimate them ... machines, HRMs, and MFP all do in some cases. Adjust as necessary.

    I read the labels on all my food and weigh everything that needs weight... I weigh my meat raw ect i no my food input is accurate and correct! I no machines and mfp ect over estimate burnt cals that's why I tend to only eat around half of mine back to contemplate the over exaggeration

    Do you weigh everything or only things you think needs weight?

    When I say I weight everything needed as in I weigh everything unless it's like a yoghurt or something that tells me the calories on the pack if that makes sense or like my bread as I no its 98 cals per slice so I scan the barcode and input my slices or watever ? All other food ie meat potaoes pasta ect ect I weigh it ALL!
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,616 Member
    edited September 2015
    I weigh my food On digital scales and log everything accurately ? I try work out everyday if it be walking or cross trainer ect I log my exercise and I eat anywhere between half and full burnt cals depends on my day? Will keep it at it just don't understand why have not lost x

    First of all, it was 10 days for me before I saw any change. I was starting to feel a little disheartened too. So this could just be how you are. It could start one day very soon all of a sudden.

    Second, can you give us an example of how many calories you're burning on a particular day. For example, if you walked one day this week ... how far did you go, how long did it take you, and how many calories did you record?

  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    Here's the flow chart: ;)

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  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    I weigh my food On digital scales and log everything accurately ? I try work out everyday if it be walking or cross trainer ect I log my exercise and I eat anywhere between half and full burnt cals depends on my day? Will keep it at it just don't understand why have not lost x

    I'd say like everyone - give it more time, it will happens.
    But also, I'd include one or two rest days a week.
    Also, do you drink enough water? and eat enough fiber... Maybe TMI, but do you go to the toilet reglarly? Also, maybe you're soon to have your period? I know that for me, at least a week before TOM, I actually gain weight...

    Good luck :)

    I will deffo give it more time :) I admit I don't drink enough water so will work hard on getting my water intake up! Lol I normally hit my nutrients on fiber protein ect or I try to anyway! Lol I don't have periods as on contraception that stops them so not actually sure if I would be due or not so could possibly be that lol x
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    HRMs are not necessarily more accurate for caloric estimation. They count heart beats then use that number for a proxy in a formula. They are not accurate for estimating burns from low intensity activity like normal walking ... they are not accurate for intervals. They do o.k. for things like steady state running and rowing ... but still not truly accurate. It is difficult to accurately calculate caloric burn for a lot of activities.

    Scanning doesn't necessarily mean an accurate entry in the MFP database. MFP has an extensive database of foods which has some accurate entries and some that are way out there. Labels have acceptable variances ... weight of meats changes when they cook ... fruits come in different sizes. Double check your entries with what the FDA shows for the nutritional values per gram (or 100 grams) of what you're eating.

    A start point for figuring out net calories from walking is .3 x weight in pounds x distance in miles. As with all formulas online, it is based on averages but it gives you a start point to adjust from. Burning 100 net calories from walking one mile requires that a person weigh over 300 pounds ... unfortunately 100 cals per mile is often used as a "rule of thumb" although the studies don't support it. Something that simple can cause issues when trying to generate and maintain a deficit.

    You're still early in your loss. Take the time and ensure you have your intake accurately logged. Don't blindly trust a MFP database entry. Then reevaluate your exercise burns. It is easy to accidentally overestimate them ... machines, HRMs, and MFP all do in some cases. Adjust as necessary.

    I read the labels on all my food and weigh everything that needs weight... I weigh my meat raw ect i no my food input is accurate and correct! I no machines and mfp ect over estimate burnt cals that's why I tend to only eat around half of mine back to contemplate the over exaggeration

    Do you weigh everything or only things you think needs weight?

    When I say I weight everything needed as in I weigh everything unless it's like a yoghurt or something that tells me the calories on the pack if that makes sense or like my bread as I no its 98 cals per slice so I scan the barcode and input my slices or watever ? All other food ie meat potaoes pasta ect ect I weigh it ALL!

    You could try weighing your bread and yogurt as well. A lot of people on here recommend it as the weights can sometimes be off. I personally don't take it that far, but if I'm not losing-I'll try anything.
  • avilancaster871
    avilancaster871 Posts: 147 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    I weigh my food On digital scales and log everything accurately ? I try work out everyday if it be walking or cross trainer ect I log my exercise and I eat anywhere between half and full burnt cals depends on my day? Will keep it at it just don't understand why have not lost x

    First of all, it was 10 days for me before I saw any change. I was starting to feel a little disheartened too. So this could just be how you are. It could start one day very soon all of a sudden.

    Second, can you give us an example of how many calories you're burning on a particular day. For example, if you walked one day this week ... how far did you go, how long did it take you, and how many calories did you record?

    Hopefully will start loosing soon then lol well I go on my cross trainer about 4-5 times a week and do a min of half hour... Mfp tells me half hour burns around 400cals (i no mfp isn't accurate) and walk wise I walk at least 2 hour Monday-Friday taking my son to school and picking him up :) some days I walk a lot more if we go out for the day ect or if it's my day to do my food shopping lol but that's my min walking times in the week :)
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    When I first started trying to lose weight, my doctor told me not to exercise, not because I had a physical limitation, but because many people don't lose weight or can gain weight after starting a new exercise program. If you go from doing nothing to working out several times a week, your body is under stress that it hasn't been before, your cortisol levels rise, and you can retain water. In addition, if you are sore, your muscles often retain water while they "heal".

    It seems you have a pretty good grasp of logging accurately. Keep it up for another two weeks at least and see where you're at. If you're still not losing, bump this thread or create another one and maybe we'd be able to provide more help with more data.
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