vegan views, what are yours?

jennifermads1

I know a few vegans from university. Interestingly another student who is a veggie said she found vegans too extreme and aggressive in their views. I must admit I have been shocked a few times by what my vegan friends have said one example being.
" I don't think I could be best friends with someone that eats meat because I would always think they are stupid". Also my sister in law who is vegan has similar views she chooses to only be friends with other vegans which I find strange. Am I missing a point? Surely one of the great things about life meeting different types of people?

Sox90716

You are right. Meeting, interacting and respecting other people's views and beliefs is a great way to live.

LongIsland27itl

We were born to eat meat, hence the k9 teeth.

And if we had decided to be vegans way back in history, our brains would not have developed into what they are today.

Though it is sad to think about living animals being killed in assembly lines to feed us.

justicer68

I know a few vegans from university. Interestingly another student who is a veggie said she found vegans too extreme and aggressive in their views. I must admit I have been shocked a few times by what my vegan friends have said one example being.
" I don't think I could be best friends with someone that eats meat because I would always think they are stupid". Also my sister in law who is vegan has similar views she chooses to only be friends with other vegans which I find strange. Am I missing a point? Surely one of the great things about life meeting different types of people?

I think they are narrow minded and missing out on alot of great people. They are the ones who are stupid. You should accept people for who they are not what they eat. I agree with you. Smh...

Pinkylee77

didn't you post this in a different form so why the same thread 2 different places?

jennifermads1

yes because I have found in the past that I can get more of a variety of views.

LongIsland27itl

yes because I have found in the past that I can get more of a variety of views.

confused the hell out of me ,lol

BaristaX

We were born to eat meat, hence the k9 teeth.

And if we had decided to be vegans way back in history, our brains would not have developed into what they are today.

Though it is sad to think about living animals being killed in assembly lines to feed us.

pretty much this statement right here,

vegans who have extreme views, as bold as to say "humans should never eat meat" are just denying years and years and years of human evolution, the cavemen didn't survive or get their strength from just eating plants.
I have a theory that extremist vegans probably did not get enough protein to develop their brains, that's why they make statements such as "I won't be a meat eaters friend because I will always think they are stupid"

in the end I respect peoples choices, but I really dislike others that think they are higher above or superior to someone else because of the food/lifestyle decisions they make.

jennifermads1

yes because I have found in the past that I can get more of a variety of views.

confused the hell out of me ,lol

it was the pinky lee sorry

bulbadoof

Another person's diet is their business, not mine. I can understand and totally respect vegans not wanting to be roommates with meat-eaters because the sight/smell of meat upsets them or even makes them nauseous (I get the same way with cigarette smoke), but I never really associated closed-minded behaviors with the vegan diet. People who feel the need to assert the superiority of their opinion are gonna do it regardless of what they eat or who they worship (or don't) or what their stance on abortion is or whatever the hell people like to argue about these days. It's a human thing, not a vegan thing.

kaylaandthestarcatcher

I'm a vegan, and as long as somebody respects my choices, I will respect theirs. I don't care if you eat meat. I really, really don't. I choose not to for a variety of reasons, but it's still my choice and I don't expect everybody to have the same opinions and make the same choices as me.

Vegans have this negative representation of being rude and pushing their opinions on everybody and OF COURSE there ARE people like that, but I think it's a very small percentage of vegans. They're just the ones that get attention because they're the loud ones. Unless somebody were to eat a meal with me and get into a discussion about food with me, they usually won't even know that I am a vegan because like, ...it's just food. It's just what I choose to eat. I don't talk about it all that often. So like, it's whatever. Y'know?

stefisdeadgood

I'm a vegan, and as long as somebody respects my choices, I will respect theirs. I don't care if you eat meat. I really, really don't. I choose not to for a variety of reasons, but it's still my choice and I don't expect everybody to have the same opinions and make the same choices as me.

Vegans have this negative representation of being rude and pushing their opinions on everybody and OF COURSE there ARE people like that, but I think it's a very small percentage of vegans. They're just the ones that get attention because they're the loud ones. Unless somebody were to eat a meal with me and get into a discussion about food with me, they usually won't even know that I am a vegan because like, ...it's just food. It's just what I choose to eat. I don't talk about it all that often. So like, it's whatever. Y'know?

This is my view too. I am vegan and I believe everyone has to make their own food choices. My boyfriend, who I live with, eats meat and that's his choice. Most important is respect of other peoples decisions even if they go against your own.

potatocar

This is my view too. I am vegan and I believe everyone has to make their own food choices. My boyfriend, who I live with, eats meat and that's his choice. Most important is respect of other peoples decisions even if they go against your own.

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what.”
I find it very confusing to see why you would respect a person for eating meat, as a vegan yourself, seeing as respect is something that should be earned, not something that is there by default. "I don't enjoy blowing myself up and killing children, but I respect terrorists who choose to do so." No, you don't, because it goes against what you believe, and that's alright.

rhia575

I don't mind vegetarians I think that's fine but in my opinion (of what I have experienced with vegans) it just seems a little stupid to me. My vegan friend was at my house and i was cooking eggs she refused to have any because she was vegan. But correct me if i'm wrong the whole point of being a vegan is because you are against the harm to animals so if these eggs came from chickens in my garden living happy healthy lives and laying eggs is a natural process why would you then refuse to eat that ? idk just all the vegans i have met so far (and i know this is not how all vegans are, i'm just saying the ones i have come across) they just appear to be the attention seeking fake dramatic type and kind of annoying. just saying

ForumSamurai

Oh I'll eat a cow right now if you read everything I wrote instead of stopping at "rape a couple of women" and going "HA! She compared it to rape! This is my cue! Awww yes!"

I didn't compare it to rape. I reminded the kind sir what the good old natural life of cavemen also includes besides their tasty, protein-rich, brain-enlarging diet of medium rare, well-seasoned steaks.

Um.. yeh.. but.. um... yeah, you kinda compared eating meat to raping women. You really did. I read the whole thing... and you're adorable as hell... but... um... yeah... ya kinda did.

kaylaandthestarcatcher

But correct me if i'm wrong the whole point of being a vegan is because you are against the harm to animals so if these eggs came from chickens in my garden living happy healthy lives and laying eggs is a natural process why would you then refuse to eat that ?

There are MANY reasons to become vegan. And that usually is a main reason. But it's not the same for everybody. Some people just don't want to eat animals or things that come from animals and there's nothing wrong with that. And it's not necessarily "refusing" to eat something. It's just choosing not to.

idk just all the vegans i have met so far (and i know this is not how all vegans are, i'm just saying the ones i have come across) they just appear to be the attention seeking fake dramatic type and kind of annoying. just saying

You need to meet better vegans.

erikmsp72

You are right. Meeting, interacting and respecting other people's views and beliefs is a great way to live.

This.

cubsgirlinny

Good for them. Same as with religion- enjoy your choice, but don't PUSH it on me.
I eat local and sustainable- but I like cow on my plate and leather on my feet.

Lupercalia

I think this site sums up my feelings about a whole lot of vegans pretty well:

http://www.exvegans.com/


This is their mission statement:


Our Mission.

If you’re no longer vegan, you’re going on the list.
The spirits of the billions murdered have risen to deliver: The Vegan Sellout List – an online directory of those who have regressed from moral consistency to moral depravity.

The Vegan Sellout List is our answer to the epidemic of vegan sellouts – those who are aware of the suffering caused by meat, dairy, egg, fur, and leather production, yet choose to look away while the animals suffer.

Selling out veganism is a trend on the upswing, bringing with it swarms of haughty, nose-turning carnists uttering nonsensical buzzwords re: veganism being “privileged”, or “trendy”, critiquing themselves into ethical degeneracy and paleo-terrorism.

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alladream

I think everybody's food choice is a personal one based on their own views and history and culture etc., and even though I've been vegetarian 30+ years, it's been decades since i tried to convert' anybody. Of course any action has consequences, so if you or I or someone eats a ton of unhealthy food, or very healthy food, or too little food, etc., there are results by way of health, weight, and karma as to how many other beings had to suffer for you to have the big mac or the carrots, but I have found the worst thing to do to try to change someone's mind is to hostilely point out how you think they're wrong!

proudandprejudiced

I believe everyone is entitled to their own views but I really can't stand people who force their views down your throat. This obviously doesn't just apply to vegans, but to people doing Paleo, to avid meat eaters, to pescetarians, to raw foodists etc.

But honestly, we provide animals with free housing and (some with) free healthcare, so surely they can donate a few eggs or some milk or honey, right? I see the point of view of vegetarians, not wanting to kill for their food, but I think that in exchange for what we provide animals with, they should return the favour! But obviously, that's my opinion.

getfitcharles

People are complete idiots sometimes. I'm vegan but I don't push it on people because 1) it's obnoxious and 2) it's my choice not theirs.

Smirfettewithmuscles

You are right. Meeting, interacting and respecting other people's views and beliefs is a great way to live.

This is very well said!:)

ForumSamurai

I agree with the sentiment that people should just leave other people alone.

I wouldn't notice if most people were in the middle of the street... on fire... let alone what they were eating at lunch.

Caring about crap like that takes WAY too much energy.

dittmarml

I'm a vegan.

I choose it for my own reasons. I assume other people choose what they eat for similar reasons.

My only attitude about it isn't about veganism, it is about the health costs to individuals and overhead written to the health care system by the grossly unhealthy diet purveyed by fast food vendors and what is colloquially called the "Standard American Diet". But there are plenty of ways to eat a more healthy diet that don't require plant-based menus.

But for the record, I don't "preach" - I only provide advice when asked. I used to spend alot more time having to "defend" my diet (which I don't bother with any more) whenever anyone found out I'm a vegan, than I see others having to do when it emerges that they eat meat.

So please keep in mind that there are those of us who are not "judgmental" - and please don't judge us! I'm a little tired of all the complaints about vegans. Aggressive morons come in all types.

Rhonda21km

I am vegan and do not choose to surround myself with only vegans. What someone else chooses to eat is not my business and I do not try to push my views on others. In fact, I find meat eaters are the ones that seem to feel the need to defend what they eat once they learn I am vegan, which I have never understood since I truly do not care or pass judgement on their choices.

I do find it a little frustrating when people pass judgement or make assumptions regarding my choices without really having a full understanding on nutrition and our body's requirements for good health. I know numerous people that truly believe you MUST consume animal products to get adequate protein in one's diet - this is simply false. Passing judgement on someone else's choices without getting your facts in order is just as bad as a vegan who pushes their views about not consuming animal products in my opinion.

neandermagnon

When it comes to people's ethics and personal tastes, e.g. someone choosing to be vegan because they object morally to eating animals, or the idea of it disgusts them or they simply don't like the taste of animal products, then I'd say each to their own, and of course we should respect each others different beliefs - you don't have to agree with someone's opinion to respect it and their right to hold it.

However it totally does my head in when people try to claim that meat eating in humans is unnatural. Humans would not have even evolved without meat. And the argument about gorillas being vegan does my head in too, because a) gorillas eat insects and b) gorillas have the smallest brain to body size ratio of all the great apes and are also the least intelligent. Chimps, who have the largest brain to body size ratio of non-human apes, eat monkeys. In fact they cooperatively hunt monkeys, which is a very human-like behaviour. Early human ancestors like Australopithecines and Homo habilis probably cooperatively hunted monkey sized animals in a similar fashion to chimps. Homo erectus cooperatively hunted considerably bigger animals and Homo neanderthalensis cooperatively hunted huge, dangerous animals like bison and mammoths. And Homo sapiens invented long range hunting weapons like throwing spears and bows and arrows, to be able to take down big animals without getting injured quite as often as neanderthals did. So humans have a rich history of hunting bigger and bigger animals using progressively more sophisticated weapons, and also a correspondingly increasing brain size first as a result of eating more meat and later as a result of cooking meat (which makes it easier to digest and therefore means you can get more nutrition from it). Animal fat, in particular, is essential for growing a large brain. Modern people can be vegan only because of recent advances in agriculture and the ability to transport food around the world, because otherwise it's really difficult to grow enough high protein plant food to get enough protein, and also the technology to refine plant oils, and no-one can gather enough high protein plant food from the wild to survive, hence the need for humans to eat meat for pretty much the entirety of human history until fairly recently.

SerenaFisher

I think it"s funny that people assume cavemen had a lot of meat. (So would cave women) truth is we were not great hunters and the majority of our diets were likely whatever we scavenged. Fresh cow and raw carrots not likely on the menu until we "evolved". We were all most likely nomads traveling to find whatever we could.

THAT SAID. My vegan friend "tolerates" me but pretty much ignores whatever I say she has a whole group of vegan friends on Facebook that she can not tell about her "meat eating" friends because they would be offended.So are they close minded? She seems t be, by her attitude any one that doesn't agree with her is wrong. When people present with this attitude for religion, opposite food views, upbringing, or other various reasons anyone would label them a little narrow minded. What makes vegans different? People of religion say they are the way they are for moral belief and most have no problem laughing at them.

I am not religious or vegan. Personally I think as someone already said by choosing not to associate with someone based off diet, or even religion you miss out on a lot of great people.

dittmarml

You are right. Meeting, interacting and respecting other people's views and beliefs is a great way to live.

This.

Yep.